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You know you are winning an argument when you resort to pointing out typographical and grammatical errors.

 Seaward wrote:

PS: I was unaware I'd 'slung' any insults at you in this thread and if I have, you should, at once, use the report button as that isn't tolerated on this site.

All I can say is...

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
Watching you sling petty insults and then pretending to be above it is just icing on the cake.

Take your own advice, mate.

You do realize you wrote that, not me...




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 Seaward wrote:

...Fortunately, I'm arguing against you because you're wrong, rather than out of spite. Watching you sling petty insults and then pretending to be above it is just icing on the cake.

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 cincydooley wrote:

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:

Again, you're reading comprehension isn't really my problem, it's yours, it's why you're angrily fighting against so many people on this section of this forum (and likely several other places on the nets...), you don't actually read what I'm saying, you read what that 'far leftist foreigner coming over here and telling me how my country should run' is saying which brings me neatly to:

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It's funny because you used the contraction in the wrong place while critiquing reading comprehension. Thanks for the morning laugh.

I am still mastering the new phone, forgive me.

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
You do realize you wrote that, not me...

I didn't, actually. Quote tree got fethed up. Chalk one up for you.

 Ouze wrote:
You know you are winning an argument when you resort to pointing out typographical and grammatical errors.

I haven't been participating in the argument at all. I just thought it was funny and pointed it out.

But, you know, say what you will.

 Ouze wrote:
You know you are winning an argument when you resort to pointing out typographical and grammatical errors.

I don't know if it was in the spirit of winning as it was of irony, since Mean was bringing comprehension of reading into the discussion and totaly duffed the spelling of "your". In Mean's defense, it's a mistake any of us can and do make, but in this context it was humorous.

Feel free to gak all over this, but how is using drones anyworse than using the conventional weapons we've been using for the past ~100 years? I don't agree with blowing up kids, but mistakes happen and no doubt this isn't the first time kids have been killed.

Just curious.

 whembly wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
Truly, Obama is history's greatest liar.

There... fixed it for ya.

 TheWildHost wrote:
Feel free to gak all over this, but how is using drones anyworse than using the conventional weapons we've been using for the past ~100 years? I don't agree with blowing up kids, but mistakes happen and no doubt this isn't the first time kids have been killed.

Just curious.

Obama tries to give the impression he has the moral high ground over any who have gone before him , but in fact has one of the most secretive, manipulating and incompetent administrations in a long while. The drones are just one more item on the list.

Relapse wrote:

 TheWildHost wrote:
Feel free to gak all over this, but how is using drones anyworse than using the conventional weapons we've been using for the past ~100 years? I don't agree with blowing up kids, but mistakes happen and no doubt this isn't the first time kids have been killed.

Just curious.

Obama tries to give the impression he has the moral high ground over any who have gone before him , but in fact has one of the most secretive, manipulating and incompetent administrations in a long while. The drones are just one more item on the list.

So it's not just drones it's his attitude?

 sebster wrote:

 whembly wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
Truly, Obama is history's greatest liar.

There... fixed it for ya.

Spoiler:

Nah... this is better.

 Seaward wrote:
Or, we can go with informed analysis.

That analysis is dumb from the first line and you should very bad about yourself for thinking otherwise.

"Nothing wrong with the GOP folks, nothing needs fixing, business as usual, because we can score a 16 point lead on the economy from opposition, during gakky economic times!"

Relapse wrote:

 TheWildHost wrote:
Feel free to gak all over this, but how is using drones anyworse than using the conventional weapons we've been using for the past ~100 years? I don't agree with blowing up kids, but mistakes happen and no doubt this isn't the first time kids have been killed.

Just curious.

Obama tries to give the impression he has the moral high ground over any who have gone before him , but in fact has one of the most secretive, manipulating and incompetent administrations in a long while. The drones are just one more item on the list.

When has he tried to give the impression that he has moral highground over all previous administrations?

And again, what you've said doesn't answer what was asked. Why are drones 'especially evil'? Why are some dead kids worse than, say, the invasion of Iraq over trumped up reasons, for example?

 TheWildHost wrote:

Relapse wrote:

 TheWildHost wrote:
Feel free to gak all over this, but how is using drones anyworse than using the conventional weapons we've been using for the past ~100 years? I don't agree with blowing up kids, but mistakes happen and no doubt this isn't the first time kids have been killed.

Just curious.

Obama tries to give the impression he has the moral high ground over any who have gone before him , but in fact has one of the most secretive, manipulating and incompetent administrations in a long while. The drones are just one more item on the list.

So it's not just drones it's his attitude?

Attitude and actions. The artist said he had thought of a number of words add a number of different words.

 whembly wrote:
Nah... this is better.

Spoiler:

That's actually pretty good

But away from the comedy for a second, you don't think it's a little bit comical that the Republicans are making such a massive deal about Obama's lie, when they told so many whoppers of their own?



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 Seaward wrote:
News Corp.

Are you suggesting the polling presented in that article is mythical? Because I'm pretty sure Murdoch doesn't own Pew.

No, but the decision to prioritise certain polls results while ignoring others is the decision of the writer and the editorial staff. Which is, of course, how punditry passes itself off as journalism. "Oh don't worry about the woeful favourability ratings. Just look at how we lead on economic polling, when we're in opposition during a poo economy. We're gonna be just fine!"

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:

Relapse wrote:

 TheWildHost wrote:
Feel free to gak all over this, but how is using drones anyworse than using the conventional weapons we've been using for the past ~100 years? I don't agree with blowing up kids, but mistakes happen and no doubt this isn't the first time kids have been killed.

Just curious.

Obama tries to give the impression he has the moral high ground over any who have gone before him , but in fact has one of the most secretive, manipulating and incompetent administrations in a long while. The drones are just one more item on the list.

When has he tried to give the impression that he has moral highground over all previous administrations?

And again, what you've said doesn't answer what was asked. Why are drones 'especially evil'? Why are some dead kids worse than, say, the invasion of Iraq over trumped up reasons, for example?

Any time he has blamed Bush over the past couple of terms for openers. Saying his administration was going to be transparent. Using drones for spying on and killing American citizens. Giving the impression before he was elected, he'd have us out of Iraq and Afghanastan, yet still the killings go on with the introduction of drones. Do I really need to go on?.

 sebster wrote:

 whembly wrote:
Nah... this is better.

Spoiler:

That's actually pretty good

But away from the comedy for a second, you don't think it's a little bit comical that the Republicans are making such a massive deal about Obama's lie, when they told so many whoppers of their own?

Of course it's comical... but are you actually suggesting that Obama shouldn't be held to account for this? Should we sweep this under the rug and chalk this up as, "pshah... dat what's politician do to us... dey liars, all of 'em".

Relapse wrote:

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:

Relapse wrote:

 TheWildHost wrote:
Feel free to gak all over this, but how is using drones anyworse than using the conventional weapons we've been using for the past ~100 years? I don't agree with blowing up kids, but mistakes happen and no doubt this isn't the first time kids have been killed.

Just curious.

Obama tries to give the impression he has the moral high ground over any who have gone before him , but in fact has one of the most secretive, manipulating and incompetent administrations in a long while. The drones are just one more item on the list.

When has he tried to give the impression that he has moral highground over all previous administrations?

And again, what you've said doesn't answer what was asked. Why are drones 'especially evil'? Why are some dead kids worse than, say, the invasion of Iraq over trumped up reasons, for example?

Any time he has blamed Bush over the past couple of terms for openers. Saying his administration was going to be transparent. Using drones for spying on and killing American citizens. Giving the impression before he was elected, he'd have us out of Iraq and Afghanastan, yet still the killings go on with the introduction of drones. Do I really need to go on?.

Well, I don't see any difference in a smart bomb dropped from an F-22 and one dropped from a drone (err fired might be more appropriate), so I yet to see the difference. Dead kids are dead kids.

Yeah I've never understood the "drones are the evilz!" thing. I mean a mis-drop that blows up a wedding or a friendly fire incident doesn't become any more or less a mis-drop/friendly fire incident because the thing that did the firing was a drone.

 TheWildHost wrote:

Relapse wrote:

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:

Relapse wrote:

 TheWildHost wrote:
Feel free to gak all over this, but how is using drones anyworse than using the conventional weapons we've been using for the past ~100 years? I don't agree with blowing up kids, but mistakes happen and no doubt this isn't the first time kids have been killed.

Just curious.

Obama tries to give the impression he has the moral high ground over any who have gone before him , but in fact has one of the most secretive, manipulating and incompetent administrations in a long while. The drones are just one more item on the list.

When has he tried to give the impression that he has moral highground over all previous administrations?

And again, what you've said doesn't answer what was asked. Why are drones 'especially evil'? Why are some dead kids worse than, say, the invasion of Iraq over trumped up reasons, for example?

Any time he has blamed Bush over the past couple of terms for openers. Saying his administration was going to be transparent. Using drones for spying on and killing American citizens. Giving the impression before he was elected, he'd have us out of Iraq and Afghanastan, yet still the killings go on with the introduction of drones. Do I really need to go on?.

Well, I don't see any difference in a smart bomb dropped from an F-22 and one dropped from a drone (err fired might be more appropriate), so I yet to see the difference. Dead kids are dead kids.

A fair statement, but Obama was acting all in righteous anger over the war, but has allowed it to drag on in a way he condemned earlier, with all the death it entails. It's also not just about drones dropping bombs, but being employed by this administration to spy on American citizens.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Yeah I've never understood the "drones are the evilz!" thing. I mean a mis-drop that blows up a wedding or a friendly fire incident doesn't become any more or less a mis-drop/friendly fire incident because the thing that did the firing was a drone.

The thing that did the firing was a man (Or woman) sitting in an air-conditioned room.

(Not that that changes anything, just saying)


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A fair statement, but Obama was acting all in righteous anger over the war, but has allowed it to drag on in a way he condemned earlier, with all the death it entails. It's also not just about drones dropping bombs, but being employed by this administration to spy on American citizens.

Spy on people suspected of being criminals or worse. You aren't going to walk outside your door and be blown up.

I'm not saying it's a perfect system or that I respect/support it, but if they can stop something without a law enforcement agent being hurt then I'm down.

This isn't just spying on select people this is putting everybody on camera. Couple that with everything else the administration is introducing as far as spying on citizens go and it gets troubling.

So you don't have a problem with drones you have a problem with being on camera? You aren't being filmed 24/7 (yet) or even all the time when you leave your house (yet)

 TheWildHost wrote:
So you don't have a problem with drones you have a problem with being on camera? You aren't being filmed 24/7 (yet) or even all the time when you leave your house (yet)

Obama is doing all he can to further spying on citizens in this country. Drones are one of the examples most in the news for camera work.

Relapse wrote:

 TheWildHost wrote:
So you don't have a problem with drones you have a problem with being on camera? You aren't being filmed 24/7 (yet) or even all the time when you leave your house (yet)

Obama is doing all he can to further spying on citizens in this country. Drones are one of the examples most in the news for camera work.

So it isn't the dead kids, it's the spying that bothers you with drones?

 TheWildHost wrote:

Relapse wrote:

 TheWildHost wrote:
So you don't have a problem with drones you have a problem with being on camera? You aren't being filmed 24/7 (yet) or even all the time when you leave your house (yet)

Obama is doing all he can to further spying on citizens in this country. Drones are one of the examples most in the news for camera work.

So it isn't the dead kids, it's the spying that bothers you with drones?

Both bother me. The dead kids as you say can happen with bombs from a plane or a drone. The spying from a drone is also bad for most Americans.

Spying can also happen from a remote set of buildings located in a Massachusetts(Now that I think about it it might be Maryland) woods.



Edit: Yep, I was wrong, it's Maryland

 TheWildHost wrote:
Spying can also happen from a remote set of buildings located in a Massachusetts(Now that I think about it it might be Maryland) woods.



Edit: Yep, I was wrong, it's Maryland

It doesn't make it any more correct. As I said, drones are more in the news these days and Obama, the guy who talks a big game about rights, seems to love 'em.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Yeah I've never understood the "drones are the evilz!" thing. I mean a mis-drop that blows up a wedding or a friendly fire incident doesn't become any more or less a mis-drop/friendly fire incident because the thing that did the firing was a drone.

It's the dichotomy of the administration's stance regarding the draw-downs of the Iraq/Afganistan Wars, Muslim Brotherhood support, warming to Iran, etc... to the liberal use of the drones.

Relapse wrote:

 TheWildHost wrote:
Spying can also happen from a remote set of buildings located in a Massachusetts(Now that I think about it it might be Maryland) woods.



Edit: Yep, I was wrong, it's Maryland

It doesn't make it any more correct. As I said, drones are more in the news these days and Obama, the guy who talks a big game about rights, seems to love 'em.

Correct? No. I know I sound like a nutjob when I say this so prepare



The drone coverage might be used as a scapegoat, maybe the republicans are angry about it to cover up the whole Syria and NSA Please don't bypass the language filter like this. Reds8n that's been going on. Maybe the gay marriage debate is too.

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