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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/10 15:11:21
Subject: [Rate] Grey Knights - 2,000 pts
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Infiltrating Broodlord
New York
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How would you guys rate this list on a scale of 1 to 10.
1 = Non-competitive play, gaks and giggles
10 = Tournament winning, game breaking
Feel free to rate, review and give your opinion.
SUGGESTIONS will only be taken into account if following the directions listed at the bottom.
2000 Pts - Grey Knights Roster - Draigowing
HQ:
1 Lord Kaldor Draigo, 275 pts (Warlord)
Troops:
1 Grey Knight Terminator Squad, 220 pts
1 Terminator Justicar (Storm Bolter; Nemesis Warding Stave)
4 Terminators (Storm Bolter; Nemesis Force Halberd)
1 Paladin Squad, 725 pts (Psybolt Ammunition)
1 Paladin (MC Storm Bolter; Brotherhood Banner)
1 Paladin (MC Psycannon; Nemesis Force Sword)
1 Paladin (MC Psycannon; Nemesis Force Halberd)
1 Paladin (MC Psycannon; Nemesis Daemonhammer)
2 Paladin (MC Storm Bolter; Nemesis Daemonhammer)
3 Paladin (MC Storm Bolter; Nemesis Force Sword)
1 Paladin (MC Storm Bolter; Nemesis Warding Stave)
Fast Attack:
1 Grey Knight Interceptor Squad, 310 pts
1 Justicar (Nemesis Daemonhammer)
2 Grey Knights (Incinerator)
7 Grey Knights
Heavy Support:
1 Nemesis Dreadknight, 235 pts (Personal Teleporter; Heavy Incinerator)
1 Nemesis Dreadknight, 235 pts (Personal Teleporter; Heavy Incinerator)
Total Roster Cost: 2000
Suggestion Guidelines
My draigowing themed list. Unlike most of my other themed lists, the only thing i'm not willing to change here are the troops and draigo himself. Tho I think i did my best to fight the current meta, by tossing in fast units that can get in there and burn tau/eldar alive or chase down and tie up key targets that could potentially hurt my troops.
If you want to offer suggetions this is my grey knights inventory that i can swap things for
1 Castellan Crowe
3 Dreadnought - Twin-Linked Autocannon; Twin-Linked Autocannon
10 Grey Knight Interceptor
7 Grey Knight Interceptor - Nemesis Force Sword, Storm Bolter
2 Grey Knight Interceptor - Incinerator
1 Justicar - Nemesis Daemonhammer, Storm Bolter
1 Grey Knight Brother-Captain
20 Purifier/Strike Squad
8 Purifier - Psycannon
5 Purifier - Nemesis Force Halberd, Storm Bolter
2 Purifier - Nemesis Force Sword, Storm Bolter
3 Purifier - Nemesis Daemonhammer, Storm Bolter
1 Knight of Flame - Nemesis Force Halberd, Storm Bolter
1 Knight of Flame - Nemesis Force Sword, Storm Bolter
2 Rhino
It is very limited and im not going to purchase new stuff.
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1. Tyranids - 15,000 pts
2. Chaos Space Marines - 7,100 pts
3. Space Marines - 6,000 pts
4. Orks - 5,900 pts
5. Dark Angels - 4,300 pts
6. Necrons - 4,600 pts
7. Grey Knights - 3,200 pts
8. Eldar - 3,400 pts
9. Blood Angels - 3,200 pts
10. Chaos Daemons - 3,200 pts
11. Tau Empire - 3,000 pts
12. Space Wolves - 2,400 pts |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/10 15:44:17
Subject: [Rate] Grey Knights - 2,000 pts
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
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I seriously think you need to stop spamming this forum with your 'rate this' lists. For one all you do is end up arguing with someone who comments on your lists. Surely the mods who have already closed 2 of your threads should have noticed all your other spam threads and action should be taken?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/10 15:54:35
Subject: Re:[Rate] Grey Knights - 2,000 pts
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Infiltrating Broodlord
New York
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I 'comment' on 2 or 3 other people's threads to help them for every 1 thread i post seeking help myself. So how are you being helpful here other than going off topic and not following the forum rules?
If you only own 1 army i understand how you could consider spam when someone with several armies asks for help. Believe it or not i do cycle through my armies instead of playing the flavor of the month.
Now with that said I kindly as you to refrain from derailing my threads or i will have to report you for not following the forum rules. You can find them in the sticky thread in this forum if you haven't read it already.
On a side note...you do realize that of all the threads i've posted seeking strategic advice and reviews..this is the first where ive actually said 'hey i'm interested in suggestions' so its a bit ironic that you choose to make your point on this one.
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1. Tyranids - 15,000 pts
2. Chaos Space Marines - 7,100 pts
3. Space Marines - 6,000 pts
4. Orks - 5,900 pts
5. Dark Angels - 4,300 pts
6. Necrons - 4,600 pts
7. Grey Knights - 3,200 pts
8. Eldar - 3,400 pts
9. Blood Angels - 3,200 pts
10. Chaos Daemons - 3,200 pts
11. Tau Empire - 3,000 pts
12. Space Wolves - 2,400 pts |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/10 19:09:00
Subject: [Rate] Grey Knights - 2,000 pts
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Agile Revenant Titan
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Really like the list! I have a few small ideas,
I think warding staves are over costed since they only grant you a 2+ in CC. There's not a great deal that you'll gap face that'll smash ten pallies w/2+ armour! Can you drop the staves?
I'd use the points to split the interceptors into 2 squads of 5, I think you can take 2 incinerators per squad of 5 (don't quote me on that, I don't have my dex) but it does mean you can make 2 30" jumps a game to steal last minute objectives!
The only other thing this list would really benefit from is great swords on the DK's. The GK FAQ means it's S10 ap2 w/ +1 attack for two weapons that re rolls to hits, to wounds AND armour pens!
Just my 5 cents...
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You sought to cower behind your walls, weakling? Instead, by the will of Khorne, you shall die behind them |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/10 22:09:36
Subject: Re:[Rate] Grey Knights - 2,000 pts
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Been Around the Block
Sydney, Australia
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I rate it 6/7. Will do well against some will get dominated by some.
Suggestions, whilst your troops are the same, a few wargear changes to find points:
Drop Interceptors
Drop Ward Stave on Terms (Use Brother Capt as the justicar with sword)
Drop Psybolt and all MC on Paladins
Get Coteaz for Prescience and IBEY - Use a proxy power armoured Hammer- Strike/Purifirer
Get an Apoc for the Paladins - Proxy whatever Paladin
Get 10 x Strikes with 2 x Psycannons for DS protection
5 points left over, MC your Sword Justicar Terminator.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/11 03:59:30
Subject: Re:[Rate] Grey Knights - 2,000 pts
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Infiltrating Broodlord
New York
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Guys I gave you a list of what I own that i could swap.
Yes I agree the staves are a toss up but I don't have any other replacement for them so they stay sadly (it's already modeled that way and i aint a fan of proxying when i can avoid it)
Also I don't own coteaz so suggesting him is pointless.
I welcome suggestions here but please do so following the guidelines I listed.
While i can easily drop the psybolt and master crafted upgrades on the troops their weapon loadouts will stay the same.
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1. Tyranids - 15,000 pts
2. Chaos Space Marines - 7,100 pts
3. Space Marines - 6,000 pts
4. Orks - 5,900 pts
5. Dark Angels - 4,300 pts
6. Necrons - 4,600 pts
7. Grey Knights - 3,200 pts
8. Eldar - 3,400 pts
9. Blood Angels - 3,200 pts
10. Chaos Daemons - 3,200 pts
11. Tau Empire - 3,000 pts
12. Space Wolves - 2,400 pts |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/11 14:38:05
Subject: [Rate] Grey Knights - 2,000 pts
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Fireknife Shas'el
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Akaiyou wrote:
2000 Pts - Grey Knights Roster - Draigowing
HQ:
1 Lord Kaldor Draigo, 275 pts (Warlord)
Troops:
1 Grey Knight Terminator Squad, 220 pts
1 Terminator Justicar (Storm Bolter; Nemesis Warding Stave)
4 Terminators (Storm Bolter; Nemesis Force Halberd)
1 Paladin Squad, 725 pts (Psybolt Ammunition)
1 Paladin ( MC Storm Bolter; Brotherhood Banner)
1 Paladin ( MC Psycannon; Nemesis Force Sword)
1 Paladin ( MC Psycannon; Nemesis Force Halberd)
1 Paladin ( MC Psycannon; Nemesis Daemonhammer)
2 Paladin ( MC Storm Bolter; Nemesis Daemonhammer)
3 Paladin ( MC Storm Bolter; Nemesis Force Sword)
1 Paladin ( MC Storm Bolter; Nemesis Warding Stave)
Fast Attack:
1 Grey Knight Interceptor Squad, 310 pts
1 Justicar (Nemesis Daemonhammer)
2 Grey Knights (Incinerator)
7 Grey Knights
Heavy Support:
1 Nemesis Dreadknight, 235 pts (Personal Teleporter; Heavy Incinerator)
1 Nemesis Dreadknight, 235 pts (Personal Teleporter; Heavy Incinerator)
Total Roster Cost: 2000
I like this list, the only problem, as with your other lists, is a lack of mobility for your heavy hitters, though that can be mitigated by the DKs and Interceptors. The only thing I would suggest is add a Psycannon into the Paladin squad (if you can). You have the ability to field four of those in a 10 man unit, so I would go for it, since they're basically better assault cannons.
I'd rate it a 7.5/10. It'll faceroll certain armies and get owned by others (if you're not careful). Tau and Eldar with all of their AP2 (especially riptides with their S8 AP2 large blast) can devastate your army in a single turn. Eliminate your priority targets and this army will do very well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/11 14:56:18
Subject: Re:[Rate] Grey Knights - 2,000 pts
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Infiltrating Broodlord
New York
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Yeah i want another psycannon don't have one. only 1 per GK terminator box so i'm stuck with 3 and trying to make it work as is.
I think Dks can handle riptides though. I haven't play tested but if im going first vs tau i can plop draigo paladins and termies in reserve ds, shunt DKs and Inerceptors burn any important tau infantry while getting withing assault range of the riptides if any. After which I think the riptide would be hard pressed to kill a DK by itself or escape it's assault range
at least that would be my battle plan. going second might prove more challenging
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1. Tyranids - 15,000 pts
2. Chaos Space Marines - 7,100 pts
3. Space Marines - 6,000 pts
4. Orks - 5,900 pts
5. Dark Angels - 4,300 pts
6. Necrons - 4,600 pts
7. Grey Knights - 3,200 pts
8. Eldar - 3,400 pts
9. Blood Angels - 3,200 pts
10. Chaos Daemons - 3,200 pts
11. Tau Empire - 3,000 pts
12. Space Wolves - 2,400 pts |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/11 15:33:40
Subject: Re:[Rate] Grey Knights - 2,000 pts
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Fireknife Shas'el
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Akaiyou wrote:Yeah i want another psycannon don't have one. only 1 per GK terminator box so i'm stuck with 3 and trying to make it work as is.
I think Dks can handle riptides though. I haven't play tested but if im going first vs tau i can plop draigo paladins and termies in reserve ds, shunt DKs and Inerceptors burn any important tau infantry while getting withing assault range of the riptides if any. After which I think the riptide would be hard pressed to kill a DK by itself or escape it's assault range
at least that would be my battle plan. going second might prove more challenging
Either way, the 30" shunt towards a gunline will scare any opponent, plus the AP4 torrent weapon to add injury to more injury. A DK should have no problem with a Riptide; the Riptide has to Smash to get S10, whereas the DK gets S10 AP2 right out of the gate, no smashing needed. And yeah, keeping them in reserves would be ideal so they can't get blown up turn 1 by a gung-ho riptide.
I was going to suggest ebay for another psycannon, but WTF. $10 for a single terminator psycannon? Nope.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/11 16:55:35
Subject: Re:[Rate] Grey Knights - 2,000 pts
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Infiltrating Broodlord
New York
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Yeah i looked into psycannon bits they are ridiculously expensive no thanks. lol
Maybe some day i'll buy another termie box and then i'll have my 4th
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1. Tyranids - 15,000 pts
2. Chaos Space Marines - 7,100 pts
3. Space Marines - 6,000 pts
4. Orks - 5,900 pts
5. Dark Angels - 4,300 pts
6. Necrons - 4,600 pts
7. Grey Knights - 3,200 pts
8. Eldar - 3,400 pts
9. Blood Angels - 3,200 pts
10. Chaos Daemons - 3,200 pts
11. Tau Empire - 3,000 pts
12. Space Wolves - 2,400 pts |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/12 03:18:26
Subject: Re:[Rate] Grey Knights - 2,000 pts
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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2 Comments:
1) You have no Apothecary in your Paladin deathstar. It's not required, but being able to ignore a third of the wounds that get through to the squad can be helpful.
2) Go for all hammers+warding stave on your terminator squad. This gives you a unit that can fight high initiative MCs and enemy TEQ without paying the higher cost for an extra wound that is meaningless in such situations.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/12 14:34:28
Subject: Re:[Rate] Grey Knights - 2,000 pts
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Infiltrating Broodlord
New York
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greyknight12 wrote:2 Comments:
1) You have no Apothecary in your Paladin deathstar. It's not required, but being able to ignore a third of the wounds that get through to the squad can be helpful.
2) Go for all hammers+warding stave on your terminator squad. This gives you a unit that can fight high initiative MCs and enemy TEQ without paying the higher cost for an extra wound that is meaningless in such situations.
You did see my inventory list right?
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1. Tyranids - 15,000 pts
2. Chaos Space Marines - 7,100 pts
3. Space Marines - 6,000 pts
4. Orks - 5,900 pts
5. Dark Angels - 4,300 pts
6. Necrons - 4,600 pts
7. Grey Knights - 3,200 pts
8. Eldar - 3,400 pts
9. Blood Angels - 3,200 pts
10. Chaos Daemons - 3,200 pts
11. Tau Empire - 3,000 pts
12. Space Wolves - 2,400 pts |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/12 14:54:28
Subject: Re:[Rate] Grey Knights - 2,000 pts
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Fireknife Shas'el
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greyknight12 wrote:2 Comments:
1) You have no Apothecary in your Paladin deathstar. It's not required, but being able to ignore a third of the wounds that get through to the squad can be helpful.
2) Go for all hammers+warding stave on your terminator squad. This gives you a unit that can fight high initiative MCs and enemy TEQ without paying the higher cost for an extra wound that is meaningless in such situations.
Honestly, my preferred loadout is three hammers and the rest halberds, simply for the Int bonus. You hit before everything else and you'll take fewer wounds back, especially against Noise Marines or eldar. However, he doesn't have the ability to do that, so it's moot.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/12 14:57:25
Subject: [Rate] Grey Knights - 2,000 pts
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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I'd rate it about 3. Not competitive not a total mess. Lacks AT and AA. No real plan behind the list, only 2 Dread knights both missing vital equipment. Random GK Terminator squad doing nothing but wasting points. No where near enough Psycannons. But how bad can a Paladin spam be? Hence it gets a 3.
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