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2 questions regarding this.
1: I have a tank sitting 2 inches back from the aegis, being charged by a large based model on the other side (hellbrute). He rolls just enough distance (using the 3 dice take lowest of course) to reach my tank. but the model cant fit between the tank and wall. It would actually have to be standing 1/2 way on the wall. Is this a legal charge?

2: have a bunch of models spread along the line who get charged from the other side....since my guys are in base contact with the wall are the considered just swinging at each other over the wall? Or would his units have to roll enough to actually come OVER the wall? (the only made it to base contact with other side)

I don't know about question 1
but for question 2.. they only need to make it into base contact with the wall.. if you are in contact with the wall

For 1, I'd leave the model on the other side and declare the charge successful.

For 2, as long as they can hit base contact, they can stop at the wall, which is then considered base contact.

Page references for the above responses:

1) Page 11, Wobbly Model Syndrome should cover the Helbrute 'standing' on the wall.

2) Page 104, Barricades and Walls

 Quanar wrote:
1) Page 11, Wobbly Model Syndrome should cover the Helbrute 'standing' on the wall.

It should, although a recent poll suggests that a large number of people think it doesn't.

That poll looks more like folks voting that you can not place a model inside a wrecked vehicle. I can not think of anyone i know that wouldn't allow the charge described above.

The poll specifically mentions walls in the question.

If you don't play that the model can finish its movement part-way through the wall, then in a situation like the OP, the unit behind the wall is unassaultable by that enemy unit. This leads to it being far better to have your unit half an inch behind the ADL rather than up against it, as you can then never be assaulted.

Please dont restart the argument of the thread you just locked.

For Q1 RaW is clear the wall is not impassable just debris which models can be partially in or out and therefor wobbily model syndrome kicks in. How did anyone interprit it any other way srriously

Fragile wrote:
Please dont restart the argument of the thread you just locked.

I have no intention of doing so. My answer in this thread was quite specific to the situation at hand.

 insaniak wrote:

Fragile wrote:
Please dont restart the argument of the thread you just locked.

I have no intention of doing so. My answer in this thread was quite specific to the situation at hand.

Bringing up the thread in such a way could antagonize one side or the other. It is better to tread carefully in that regard.

Ontopic:
I think the large base could be placed over the aegis to get into base contact.

 Nilok wrote:
Bringing up the thread in such a way could antagonize one side or the other. It is better to tread carefully in that regard.

Which is why I just linked to the thread rather than dredging up the same old arguments. When someone wants to know if they can charge through a wall, pointing out that a bunch of people apparently think he can't is relevant to the thread. He can read the linked discussion for the reasons for and against.

 insaniak wrote:

 Nilok wrote:
Bringing up the thread in such a way could antagonize one side or the other. It is better to tread carefully in that regard.

Which is why I just linked to the thread rather than dredging up the same old arguments. When someone wants to know if they can charge through a wall, pointing out that a bunch of people apparently think he can't is relevant to the thread. He can read the linked discussion for the reasons for and against.

You shouldn't lock threads then bring them up to start people fighting over it.

WMS is specifically for the OP thread.... You just place the model on top of the ADL, or feel free to move it out of the way. As long as you can physically place your model where you want (on top of the wall) you can use WMS, and of course you and your opponent have to agree to its actual location.

Stormbreed wrote:
As long as you can physically place your model where you want (on top of the wall) you can use WMS,

The model has no permission to move over the wall. As difficult terrain, you move through it.

 insaniak wrote:

Stormbreed wrote:
As long as you can physically place your model where you want (on top of the wall) you can use WMS,

The model has no permission to move over the wall. As difficult terrain, you move through it.

Glad we agree, no permission to move on top of things, no permission to remove your model from the board, its nice we finally agree, however moving through could also mean on top of. ADL's are just terrain after all !

Here we go again... I smell another lock coming.

Stormbreed wrote:

 insaniak wrote:

Stormbreed wrote:
As long as you can physically place your model where you want (on top of the wall) you can use WMS,

The model has no permission to move over the wall. As difficult terrain, you move through it.

Glad we agree, no permission to move on top of things, no permission to remove your model from the board, its nice we finally agree, however moving through could also mean on top of. ADL's are just terrain after all !

Who is removing the model from the board?

The rules allow you to melt through the aegis. so the model can exist there as far as the rules are concerned...

Actually if your tank is only two inches from the wall then just by making it in contact with the wall he is considered in base contact with you if I read the barricade rule correctly.

 White Ninja wrote:
Actually if your tank is only two inches from the wall then just by making it in contact with the wall he is considered in base contact with you if I read the barricade rule correctly.

That is not true, both models have to be in contact with the wall for that to happen.

The vast majority will play.is as you sit on the wall, anyone who won't is usually waac loophole seeking duo...person. Not to say they all are, but this sort of non issue usually gets blown up by those people