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Hello,

Here are the army comp rules for the tournament:

1500 points of 40k action in this 3 round format. Force charts are adjusted as follows.

1 Hq
2 Elites
5 Troops
2 Fast Attack
2 Heavy Support

1 fortification

allies are allowed

No duplicate non troop units are allowed. This means that a Space Marine army could not have two Landraider crusaders as heavy support choices or two terminator assault squads.

Forgeworld is allowed. It must have the 40k symbol on its rule sheet. You must own the actual rules. No bootleg PDF's allowed. You must own the model. No counts as.

All models must be WYSIWYG, What you see is what you get. No counts as models.

And here is my list thus far. Any pointers would be most appreciated.

Overlord
Warscythe
Sempiternal Weave
Mindshackle Scarabs
Phase Shifter
Catacomb Command Barge
= 255

Wraiths
6 Wraiths
3 Whip Coils
= 240

Necron Warriors
15 Warriors
Night Scythe
295

Necron Warriors
15 Warriors
Night Scythe
295

Necron Warriors
8 Warriors
Ghost Ark
= 219

Royal Court
2 Heralds of Destruction
= 70

Annihilation Barge
= 80

= 1454


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I will also list all the units I own:

1 Monolith
1 Triarch Stalker with Heavy Gauss Cannon
12 Scarabs
40 Warriors
10 Immortals with Tesla Carbines
2 Crypteks
1 Overlord
1 Destroyer Lord
2 Lords
1 Trazyn
1 Annihilation Barge
1 Command Barge
1 Ghost Ark
1 Doomsday Ark
2 Night Scythes
6 Wraiths
5 Lychguard with swords and shields

max ten is for nightscythe transport

 shiny magikarp wrote:
max ten is for nightscythe transport

Is that in an FAQ? Because in the codex it states "15 models".


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Here is an alternate list.

Annihilation Barge
= 90

Monolith
= 200

Triarch Stalker
Heavy Gauss Cannon
= 165

Warriors
8
Ghost Ark
= 219

Warriors
15
Night Scythe
= 295

Immortals
10
= 170

Overlord
Warscythe
Sempiternal Weave
Mindshackle Scarabs
Phase Shifter
Catacomb Command Barge
= 255

Royal Court
2 Heralds of Destruction
= 70

= 1464

1 Monolith
1 Triarch Stalker with Heavy Gauss Cannon
12 Scarabs
40 Warriors
10 Immortals with Tesla Carbines
2 Crypteks
1 Overlord
1 Destroyer Lord
2 Lords
1 Trazyn
1 Annihilation Barge
1 Command Barge
1 Ghost Ark
1 Doomsday Ark
2 Night Scythes
6 Wraiths
5 Lychguard with swords and shields

Well, I'd consider the following core list:
DLord w/ weave, mss
6 Wraiths
2x10 Warriors w/ Night Scythe
2 Annihilation Barges (use the Command Barge as such)
10 Warriors w/ GK

It looks like you want to put the two bar ringers of destruction in the ghost ark, which you can't do unless the overlord is with them. If they are from the same court you can let one lead the warriors or you can have the full o/lord with royal court flying shooting circus thing. I always go dlord with the wraiths but have been thinking about trying the GA thang out.

Ghost Arks look to work best with lots of warriors, because of the d3 new warriors. How about 5 in both scythe for late game objective grabbing and ten in the ark and twenty on foot? Especially if you can get an orb in the twenty.

Ok, thank you for the advice and for the rule clarification on the royal court. I am glad to know that.

Ill see what I can make with those suggestions.


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 wuestenfux wrote:

1 Monolith
1 Triarch Stalker with Heavy Gauss Cannon
12 Scarabs
40 Warriors
10 Immortals with Tesla Carbines
2 Crypteks
1 Overlord
1 Destroyer Lord
2 Lords
1 Trazyn
1 Annihilation Barge
1 Command Barge
1 Ghost Ark
1 Doomsday Ark
2 Night Scythes
6 Wraiths
5 Lychguard with swords and shields

Well, I'd consider the following core list:
DLord w/ weave, mss
6 Wraiths
2x10 Warriors w/ Night Scythe
2 Annihilation Barges (use the Command Barge as such)
10 Warriors w/ GK

The thing is, this tourney says no duplicate units besides troops. So I can only field 1 Annihilation Barge. I can also only field 1 HQ.

I am new to Necrons, so please tell me if I am wrong, but the way I understand it, if you have an Overlord, or even a named HQ, you can have up to 5 Cryptecs and 5 Lords in his court, and it counts as one HQ choice.

Is this correct?

 RSJake wrote:
I am new to Necrons, so please tell me if I am wrong, but the way I understand it, if you have an Overlord, or even a named HQ, you can have up to 5 Cryptecs and 5 Lords in his court, and it counts as one HQ choice.

Is this correct?

Correct. Each cryptek and lord can lead certain squads. If they are not leading a squad they must remain as one unit with the Overlord. That's my understanding anyway.

Bronn wrote:

 RSJake wrote:
I am new to Necrons, so please tell me if I am wrong, but the way I understand it, if you have an Overlord, or even a named HQ, you can have up to 5 Cryptecs and 5 Lords in his court, and it counts as one HQ choice.

Is this correct?

Correct. Each cryptek and lord can lead certain squads. If they are not leading a squad they must remain as one unit with the Overlord. That's my understanding anyway.

Incorrect about the Royal Court having to stay with the Overlord. Any Royal Court members not attached to a squad become a unit themselves. Sometimes you'll see people run a Royal Guard unit with 5 Destructeks as a mini Devastator squad and put them in a Ghost Ark.

 Zathras wrote:

Bronn wrote:

 RSJake wrote:
I am new to Necrons, so please tell me if I am wrong, but the way I understand it, if you have an Overlord, or even a named HQ, you can have up to 5 Cryptecs and 5 Lords in his court, and it counts as one HQ choice.

Is this correct?

Correct. Each cryptek and lord can lead certain squads. If they are not leading a squad they must remain as one unit with the Overlord. That's my understanding anyway.

Incorrect about the Royal Court having to stay with the Overlord. Any Royal Court members not attached to a squad become a unit themselves. Sometimes you'll see people run a Royal Guard unit with 5 Destructeks as a mini Devastator squad and put them in a Ghost Ark.

So, say I have a Royal Court consisting of two crypteks and one lord. I designate the lord to lead a unit of warriors. The two crypteks then become a unit themselves? Does this mean if I had only 8 warriors in a ghost ark, I could put the unit of two crypteks into the ghost ark?


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Here's another revision:

Overlord
Warscythe
Sempiternal Weave
Mindshackle Scarabs
Phase Shifter
Catacomb Command Barge
= 255

Wraiths
6 Wraiths
3 Whip Coils
= 240

Necron Warriors
15 Warriors
Night Scythe
295

Necron Warriors
20 Warriors
260

Necron Warriors
8 Warriors
Ghost Ark
= 219

Royal Court
2 Heralds of Destruction (Goes in Ghost ark)
Necron Lord (Leads 20 man warrior squad)
Res. Orb
= 135

Annihilation Barge
= 90

= 1494

Bronn wrote:
So, say I have a Royal Court consisting of two crypteks and one lord. I designate the lord to lead a unit of warriors. The two crypteks then become a unit themselves? Does this mean if I had only 8 warriors in a ghost ark, I could put the unit of two crypteks into the ghost ark?

I had heard of this in another post somewhere, as long as they are from the same court, that can work. From what I understand.

To me, having up to 22 characters running around from a single FOC is a bit odd...but that's the way it's written.


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But then again, 'Crons don't have unit upgrade characters either, so I guess it works out.

Necron royal Court is a unit and doesn't need to be with the OLord. You can have one royal court per OLord. You can attach 1 model from each royal court to a unit i.e. if you have two courts and destrucTeks in each court, you can put a 1 DestrucTek from each Royal Court into that unit. You can't put more than 1 model from each Royal Court.

As the Royal court is a unit, you can have them embark into a Ghost Ark that is associated with a unit of warriors, you just can't have the warriors in the Ghost Ark as well since you can't have multiple units in the same transport unless there is a special rule for it. Putting 3-5 DestrucTeks in the same ghost ark has proven to be very effective for me in the past.

The rules for the Tournament are interesting to say the least. Definitely keeps people from min-maxing their lists.

As far as the lists, I see you own a doomsday Ark, I would use a A Barge and a DD Ark in these lists since you cant have multiple A Barges. This gives you something with a lot of punch. If you owned spiders, I would say have a unit of 3 and the scarabs instead of the wraiths. 6 scarab bases and 3 spiders would be a nightmare and cost the same at 6 wraiths.

Warmonger2757 wrote:
Necron royal Court is a unit and doesn't need to be with the OLord. You can have one royal court per OLord. You can attach 1 model from each royal court to a unit i.e. if you have two courts and destrucTeks in each court, you can put a 1 DestrucTek from each Royal Court into that unit. You can't put more than 1 model from each Royal Court.

As the Royal court is a unit, you can have them embark into a Ghost Ark that is associated with a unit of warriors, you just can't have the warriors in the Ghost Ark as well since you can't have multiple units in the same transport unless there is a special rule for it. Putting 3-5 DestrucTeks in the same ghost ark has proven to be very effective for me in the past.

The rules for the Tournament are interesting to say the least. Definitely keeps people from min-maxing their lists.

As far as the lists, I see you own a doomsday Ark, I would use a A Barge and a DD Ark in these lists since you cant have multiple A Barges. This gives you something with a lot of punch. If you owned spiders, I would say have a unit of 3 and the scarabs instead of the wraiths. 6 scarab bases and 3 spiders would be a nightmare and cost the same at 6 wraiths.

Gotcha. Ya, sadly no Tomb Spyders yet. So, you would drop the Wraiths for the DDA? Also, I was pretty sure that different units could be in the same transport as long as it is within the transport's capacity.

right

Sorry bout that I was thinking about ghost ark

Warmonger2757 wrote:
Necron royal Court is a unit and doesn't need to be with the OLord. You can have one royal court per OLord. You can attach 1 model from each royal court to a unit i.e. if you have two courts and destrucTeks in each court, you can put a 1 DestrucTek from each Royal Court into that unit. You can't put more than 1 model from each Royal Court.

As the Royal court is a unit, you can have them embark into a Ghost Ark that is associated with a unit of warriors, you just can't have the warriors in the Ghost Ark as well since you can't have multiple units in the same transport unless there is a special rule for it. Putting 3-5 DestrucTeks in the same ghost ark has proven to be very effective for me in the past.

The rules for the Tournament are interesting to say the least. Definitely keeps people from min-maxing their lists.

As far as the lists, I see you own a doomsday Ark, I would use a A Barge and a DD Ark in these lists since you cant have multiple A Barges. This gives you something with a lot of punch. If you owned spiders, I would say have a unit of 3 and the scarabs instead of the wraiths. 6 scarab bases and 3 spiders would be a nightmare and cost the same at 6 wraiths.

Turns out you are correct. Only one unit can be in a dedicated transport. But, however can contain independent characters so long as it does not exceed the transport's capacity. Thanks for helping me clear that up.


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 shiny magikarp wrote:
Sorry bout that I was thinking about ghost ark

No trouble, man.

you need more barges and i dont see the point of CCB's