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have people in this thread just discovered power gaming or something? Yes, every imperial army can now get cheap divinition, that doesn't mean that they will.

It is stupid they can't be ml 2 though, there's plenty of examples of very power psychers in the fluff (ravenor would probably push level 3).

I usually use coatez along with a monkey group if I'm using inquisition allies. Hoping to roll a 4 for powers but even if not, decent firebase plus reroll for stealing initiative. Want to get my hands in the inquisition supplement when it comes out. Did I miss it and it's out or is this from rumors? It sounds tasty.

But I can't get it due to not owning an iPad.

So... how long until GW release their own Ereader (overpriced, of course) so poor shlubs like me can actually read their new releases?

OT, seeing as I can't attach an Inquisitor to my Armoured Company, I don't think I'll use them there... it's niche, but it's the truth. Heavy weapons squads, however...

 liquidjoshi wrote:
But I can't get it due to not owning an iPad.

So... how long until GW release their own Ereader (overpriced, of course) so poor shlubs like me can actually read their new releases?

OT, seeing as I can't attach an Inquisitor to my Armoured Company, I don't think I'll use them there... it's niche, but it's the truth. Heavy weapons squads, however...

Can't you get the books on an epub?

You can read those directly on firefox.

 liquidjoshi wrote:
But I can't get it due to not owning an iPad.

So... how long until GW release their own Ereader (overpriced, of course) so poor shlubs like me can actually read their new releases?

OT, seeing as I can't attach an Inquisitor to my Armoured Company, I don't think I'll use them there... it's niche, but it's the truth. Heavy weapons squads, however...

Firefox does indeed have an epub reader app, that is what I'm using.

I'm wondering if anything other than divination will be purchased for an Inquisitor that allies with IG. Well I guess cheap servo skulls to help with blasts if that's part of the army's design.

labmouse42 wrote:
You can read those directly on firefox.

Coyote81 wrote:

Firefox does indeed have an epub reader app, that is what I'm using.

Interesting... I'll hate to try that. Cheers guys

Can CSM take an Inquisitorial detachment? Allies of Convenience, maybe? That would be cool.

EDIT: To answer the question *in the original post*; yes. Expect to see 15-20 Coteaz' at every big tourney you go to from here on out hahaha.

 hippesthippo wrote:
Can CSM take an Inquisitorial detachment? Allies of Convenience, maybe? That would be cool.

EDIT: To answer the question; yes. Expect to see 15-20 Coteaz' at every big tourney you go to from here on out hahaha.

??? No one besides you has said that. Everyone is saying imperial armies are BB and eldar, or I think only dark eldar are AOC.

It was a question. Notice the question mark?

You edited it to answer it! IF that edit was supposed to be a joke it went over my head.

I can think of a dozen units that become OP with prescience. Thunderfire cannons, whirlwinds, vindicators, grav - centurions, imperial fist flakk devastators, If devs with prescience on a Krakstorm missile.

Not really powergaming, but, I would love to add a prescience Inquisitor or two to my 1000 point double-conscripts list. 300 twin-linked las shots might not actually do anything, but it would be fun as hell to see/hear my opponent's bewilderment.

 McNinja wrote:
I can think of a dozen units that become OP with prescience. Thunderfire cannons, whirlwinds, vindicators, grav - centurions, imperial fist flakk devastators, If devs with prescience on a Krakstorm missile.

Tigger could already give prescience to all of those units (except whirlwinds? whut?), so this isn't something new. 55 points is damn cheaper, though, and doesn't take up an HQ slot.

and not everyone plays with Ultramarines, Omegus =P I am planning on having one in a centurion squad to compliment some bikers. (especially after the game where three of those guys killed all of my bikers.)

The chance to have a decent, reasonably costed, HQ for Blood Angels makes one of the major problems they have go away...this could be a huge boon for them.

You'd still need a BA HQ though. The inquisition codex just lets you add 1 or 2 Inqiusitor HQs to other Imperial armies

Let's go through some things that are worth taking ~150 points of Inquisitors. The ones I have in mind are Coteaz and a Xenos Inquisitor. Coteaz because even as a GK-only HQ he was one of the best in the game, and Xenos because they get all the best toys and the best warlord traits (1,2,3,4 are all pretty good for Xenos) The key qualities that allow for Inquisitor accompaniment is foot-slogging (no bikers and no riding transports together), and preferably a lot of shooting or CC power. My preferred Xenos Loadout is: Psyker (w/ Sword), Rad, Psychotroke, Plasma Syphon, Needle Pistol (Steal the Liber Heresius as well from other Ordo). Still pretty damn cheap, and all those buffs are really good.

Space Marines:
Thunderfire Cannons with Prescience are stupid. Anything TL with Barrage is stupid. Take two and put them in two different TFCs, and have really good arty support. I'm thinking of that, and I'm considering a DP Vulkan list, where most of the other things can't be easily joined by an Inq or has TL something already. Servo-skulls make them even more accurate.
Centurion Deathstars don't need Tigurius anymore, although he's still great. In fact, just have Tig roll all Telepathy for Invisibility or whatever and have two Inq's for the Div powers.
Replace your crappy Marine Warlord trait with a (probably) good one from the Xenos Inquisitor!

IG:
GUARD BLOB. I don't think I need to say what a Guard blob with faux-Interceptor, Rad Grenades, Psychotroke Grenades, Stubborn, Prescience, maybe 4++ Forewarning or whatever, Scout (take the Liber Heresius), or immunity to Psychic powers entirely (Null Rod), or maybe Plasma defense (Syphon) can do. Still dies to Wave Serpents, but you don't engage the blob in CC.
MANTICORE. I've seen what a TL Manticore can do (previously had one TL'd by a Rune Priest). If TFCs are good with TL, Manticores are amazing.
Also, as seen on 3++, Servo-skulls are great to prevent Khan Bikers from getting all up in your grill, and for reducing scatter on those Manticores even further.

Sisters of Battle/Adepta Sororitas/Whatever they're called now:
Jacobus blob with all the same things as the Guard blob.
Exorcists that are now TL.
TL Rending Retributors.

Grey Knights:
Why not take FOUR inquisitors? Have them be basically sergeants for your strike squads. Or just put them into your Draigowing for the Rad and Psychotroke Grenades, and Scout and plasma defense of course.

This is all off the top of my head.

Usable BB inquisitors for all Imperium forces is huge.

 Sinji wrote:
Very nice. I don't own an IPad or tablet of any kind so its a no go for me. I'll have to wait for the hard back. Are they stubborn? I'm currently running my Sabre army with a LC as the leader because he's cheep and can attach himself to an Artillary gun for T7 goodness. Might have ditch him for an Inquisitor now.

How do the Warlord traits look? Which would be your personal favourite Inquisitor?

You dont need a tablet. Just download a .epub reader (Firefox has one available as a plug in for the browser) and then purchase/download the codex from black library.

Hrm...so ordo xenos inq, plus Pedro, plus scouts and sternguard for an ordo xenos deathwatch army.....

EVIL INC wrote:I usually use coatez along with a monkey group if I'm using inquisition allies. Hoping to roll a 4 for powers but even if not, decent firebase plus reroll for stealing initiative. Want to get my hands in the inquisition supplement when it comes out. Did I miss it and it's out or is this from rumors? It sounds tasty.

It is out. Even if the website says preorder you can download immediately.

liquidjoshi wrote:But I can't get it due to not owning an iPad.

So... how long until GW release their own Ereader (overpriced, of course) so poor shlubs like me can actually read their new releases?

OT, seeing as I can't attach an Inquisitor to my Armoured Company, I don't think I'll use them there... it's niche, but it's the truth. Heavy weapons squads, however...

GW really needs a giant banner in all their ads showing that they now sell them for use with any ereader or computer. Adobe publications is probably the best program for reading it BTW.

You can attach an inquisitor to an armoured company, the ABG counts as IG in the allies matrix. The inquisitor warbands have a variety of dedicated transport options; land raiders, valks, chimeras, razorback, and rhino. They even count as scoring if you take coteaz.

hippesthippo wrote:Can CSM take an Inquisitorial detachment? Allies of Convenience, maybe? That would be cool.

No, the Chaos fractions are all come the appocolypse (as well as nids). The only allies of convenience is eldar and the other xenos are desperate allies. IoM are all BB FTW.

Aren't Tau also Allies of Convenience?

Not in my copy.

Sorry, must have gotten my information wrong then. Thanks for the update.

 Omegus wrote:

 McNinja wrote:
I can think of a dozen units that become OP with prescience. Thunderfire cannons, whirlwinds, vindicators, grav - centurions, imperial fist flakk devastators, If devs with prescience on a Krakstorm missile.

Tigger could already give prescience to all of those units (except whirlwinds? whut?), so this isn't something new. 55 points is damn cheaper, though, and doesn't take up an HQ slot.

Except that Tigger requires you to play at least partially Ultramarines. An Ordo Xenos inquisitor with ML1 can join a unit of Gravcannon Centurions, give them Prescience ever round, and let you keep your army White Scars.

Also, i think that a cheap inquisitor with that special rules relic could be good. Letting Centurions scout an extra 6" could help them get into better positions.

But, which one would be worth more, the scouting inquisitor, or Corteaz with his fun rules and possible interceptor?


edit: for, lets say, a White Scar army.

 Thariinye wrote:
Let's go through some things that are worth taking ~150 points of Inquisitors. The ones I have in mind are Coteaz and a Xenos Inquisitor. Coteaz because even as a GK-only HQ he was one of the best in the game, and Xenos because they get all the best toys and the best warlord traits (1,2,3,4 are all pretty good for Xenos) The key qualities that allow for Inquisitor accompaniment is foot-slogging (no bikers and no riding transports together), and preferably a lot of shooting or CC power. My preferred Xenos Loadout is: Psyker (w/ Sword), Rad, Psychotroke, Plasma Syphon, Needle Pistol (Steal the Liber Heresius as well from other Ordo). Still pretty damn cheap, and all those buffs are really good.

IG:
GUARD BLOB. I don't think I need to say what a Guard blob with faux-Interceptor, Rad Grenades, Psychotroke Grenades, Stubborn, Prescience, maybe 4++ Forewarning or whatever, Scout (take the Liber Heresius), or immunity to Psychic powers entirely (Null Rod), or maybe Plasma defense (Syphon) can do. Still dies to Wave Serpents, but you don't engage the blob in CC.
MANTICORE. I've seen what a TL Manticore can do (previously had one TL'd by a Rune Priest). If TFCs are good with TL, Manticores are amazing.
Also, as seen on 3++, Servo-skulls are great to prevent Khan Bikers from getting all up in your grill, and for reducing scatter on those Manticores even further.

Prescience on the Manticore sounds great, but I have a question about the Guard Blob.

When wanting to buff the guard blob with an Inquisitor-
1) How many Infantry squads?
2) How do you outfit the squads, what SW and HWs?
3) Where do you put this infantry squad? Do you run it up the center of the board as a distraction unit? Do you run it towards an objective? Camp it behind an ADL?
As for the Inquisitor-
1) Should you take no warband and keep an IC, that joins the blob, or should you keep him separate and take a couple crusaders for an invuln?
2) What purpose does scout serve on the Blob, if not for moving it to where it needs to go more quickly?

Another question for the people of this thread-

One thing to consider, place a servo skull on or near an objective. As for Guard, when your reserves come in, you have the following options-

1) Deep strike a Storm Trooper squad with little or no scatter to secure the objective so that your infantry squads may follow up and hold it.
2) Using the Grav Chute Jump, over the servo skull will significantly reduce any losses. You could Grav Chute over the servo skull, near the objective either with a bare-bones scoring squad, or if your predicting a hot LZ, you could chute out some Veterans with plasma guns or any other kind of death star unit (perhaps even an INQ warband if you take INQ as your primary, though this neuters your heavy support options if you want to take more than one type of HS for IG.

What do you guys think about these? Finally get some use out of those servo skulls from the IG command sprue!

Yup. As we've seen with Ravenwing, Khan, and Grand Strategy, granting Scout is really powerful. And now any one Imperial unit that's not in a transport can have it 90% of the time for about 70 points. In addition to Prescience.

Why pick one when you can have BOTH! The Inquisition Force Org Chart allows for two HQs even as allies, so you're not forced to choose between Coteaz and a Xenos Inq with all the loadout I mentioned earlier. Take both of them, I know I am.

Once I looked through this supplement I realized it should just be called ccodex: prescience. Not having to sacrifice an allied detachment allows any imperial army to add re-rolls for a mere 55pts and can take 2 for 110 with nothing else.

Mark this post as all top gamers will start running this as there is no downside.

I think it's even worse as you can take cotea as a battlebrother. Grav-centurions anyone for a massive FU to any deepstrikers? The abusive combos will start rolling in.

Don't forget, those Imperial Guard army lists that do not need the Prescience (Okay, let's pretend for a second.) If they take The Psyker Battle Squad with an Inquistor with Psychic Shriek. Suddenly you get the goodness.