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2013/11/26 07:50:21
Subject: How would an entire fearless kill team work?
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Prophetic Blood Angel Librarian
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Would a fearless kill team auto pass the team break test (thinking death co), as they autopass leadership tests?
Also how do challenges work in kill team? This is a biggy for BT.
Sorry if either of theae have been asked before, couldn't find them in a search or in the killteams rules.
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2013/11/26 09:07:36
Subject: How would an entire fearless kill team work?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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They autopass morale checks, which are a subset of leadership tests. Is the team break test considered a morale test, or leadership test?
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2013/11/26 10:24:29
Subject: How would an entire fearless kill team work?
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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Just to be sure, are you talking about these rules? Cause if so...
Poly Ranger wrote:Would a fearless kill team auto pass the team break test (thinking death co), as they autopass leadership tests?
If you're talking about the Run Away rule, then I would say no.
Your Team Leader is the only one who can issue/accept Challenges. All the rules for Challenges are the same as a regular game.
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2013/11/26 11:11:48
Subject: How would an entire fearless kill team work?
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Prophetic Blood Angel Librarian
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Cheers guys!
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2013/11/26 13:12:35
Subject: How would an entire fearless kill team work?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Doom with Eternal Warrior will still drop next to your leader and eat him.
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2013/11/26 13:19:29
Subject: How would an entire fearless kill team work?
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Except in Kill Team, he can't "drop".
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2013/11/26 14:25:35
Subject: How would an entire fearless kill team work?
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Fixture of Dakka
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The latest rules for Kill Teams can be found here: http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m3460063a_Kill_Team_Rules_Pack_2013.4.pdf Break Tests are explained on page 5 and have one very interesting thing I want to point out: The test is carried out by the player and not any specific model or unit like every other leadership test would be. On Review: As suspected, the normal leadership test rules are written to explain how the process works on the unit or model level while the Fearless special rule begins with the normal 'unit benefits from one model' explanation for operating over both. This unique leadership test is done by the player and therefore could not be influenced by the Fearless special rule being present on one of his or her models. Players simply do not have the Fearless special rule, no matter how egotistical some of us are.
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This message was edited 4 times. Last update was at 2013/11/26 21:22:19
8th made it so I can no longer sway Tau onto the side of Chaos, but they will eventually turn aside from their idea of the Greater Good to embrace the Greatest of pleasures. |
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2013/11/26 18:28:14
Subject: How would an entire fearless kill team work?
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Tough Tyrant Guard
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Neither fearless or ATSKNF auto pass LD tests.
Specifically written to not work like the normal moral rules
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2013/11/26 18:31:06
It's my codex and I'll cry If I want to.
Tactical objectives are fantastic |
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2013/11/26 20:52:20
Subject: How would an entire fearless kill team work?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Nothing will stop the Break Test. Just try to avoid losing enough models to trigger it. It is very frustrating to be winning overwhelmingly to lose a Break Test to a random die roll.
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2013/11/28 00:24:23
Subject: How would an entire fearless kill team work?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Just because you can't willingly place something in reserve does not mean you cannot take something that has to be in reserve....
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2013/11/28 00:49:44
Subject: How would an entire fearless kill team work?
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Douglas Bader
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Nefrugle wrote:
Just because you can't willingly place something in reserve does not mean you cannot take something that has to be in reserve....
Actually, according to GW's rules, it does. They banned flyers because their "must start in reserve" rule isn't allowed in kill team.
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2013/11/28 11:52:06
Subject: How would an entire fearless kill team work?
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Fixture of Dakka
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The Kill Team rules do take into account units that must start in reserves and grant permission for them to be deployed normally instead. This is found in the deployment section of the Kill Team PDF, posted a few posts above this one, page 5. It is true they use this as justification to kick out flyers though, instead of simply out right stating no flyers, but I would allow doom to 'drop' on the first turn if he is deployed by page 5. Nice and far away from any of my units....
Question: As there is a lot of additional limitations to prevent elite army builds centered around one model, is he legal to play with?
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8th made it so I can no longer sway Tau onto the side of Chaos, but they will eventually turn aside from their idea of the Greater Good to embrace the Greatest of pleasures. |
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2013/11/28 14:35:28
Subject: How would an entire fearless kill team work?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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A model is legal to play if he fits the rules in KT. The wound limitation stops alot of broken combos and also, being a unit of 1 greatly handicaps elite models. Point cost alone is usually enough to stop the really broken ones.
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2013/11/29 00:00:49
Subject: How would an entire fearless kill team work?
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Nefrugle wrote:Just because you can't willingly place something in reserve does not mean you cannot take something that has to be in reserve....
I said it couldn't "drop". Didn't say it couldn't be included.
But I will now. You can't take Doom, nor can you take the spore to "drop" him in.
If you could, both he and his spore would have to be deployed at the start. Like normal troops. Not "dropped".
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2013/11/29 01:55:38
Subject: How would an entire fearless kill team work?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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I'm confused, why can you not take Doom?
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
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2013/11/29 02:02:19
Subject: How would an entire fearless kill team work?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Too many wounds in the new rules.
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2013/11/29 11:41:26
Subject: How would an entire fearless kill team work?
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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You can't take anything with more than2 wounds.
So Doom, and the Spore, can't be taken.
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2013/11/29 13:15:18
Subject: How would an entire fearless kill team work?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Didn't know the rules changed (again) to disallow multi-wound models. Haven't had internet for about a week, and was not about to download unnecessary pdfs to phone.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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2013/11/29 13:16:08
Subject: How would an entire fearless kill team work?
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The Hive Mind
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2 wound models are allowed, just not 3.
So Nids only chance of Synapse is Zoanthropes.
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