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2013/12/12 13:40:56
Subject: GW's digital advent releases : day 11 : Siege centurion apoc. formation/Lysander short story(pg 15)
H.B.M.C. wrote: How many Chaos Gods does Draigo steal lunch money from in this new story?
jonolikespie wrote: I'm legitimately surprised about that, I thought codex inquisition was something everyone has wanted ever since the old daemon/witch hunter books were scrapped.
I'm pretty sure everyone still wants a Codex: Inquisition. Sadly GW has yet to create one.
And because they put out a crap one,they will look at sales figures and come to the conclusion no one likes the Inquisition
So enjoy what we have because that is all we are getting
I don't know about that. I think the box just might not have been selling well. It's $90 USD for a Razorback, a Command Squad, and then a plastic Chaplain figure.
Who really is going to buy all of that just to get the plastic Chaplain if they already have Razorbacks and Command Squads galore?
2013/12/12 14:43:32
Subject: GW's digital advent releases : day 12 : Reclusiam command squad/Draigo story p15
Fisher001 wrote: Is it just me, or does it bother anyone else that the reclusium command squad box came out with the space marine codex, but is only now getting separate pay-to-play rules? Why couldn't this have gone into the codex?
I get that GW wants to have a profitable Christmas season, but at a certain point this just seems like profiteering.
Chaplains, Command Squads and Razorbacks are all in the codex, settle down.
Dead account, no takesy-backsies
2013/12/12 14:43:49
Subject: GW's digital advent releases : day 11 : Siege centurion apoc. formation/Lysander short story(pg 15)
I'm legitimately surprised about that, I thought codex inquisition was something everyone has wanted ever since the old daemon/witch hunter books were scrapped.
Oh I was pumped for it, I went out and got a slew of old Inquisitor and IG models on ebay.
But once I heard it was a cut and paste job, with no troop choices, and even left out one of the Special Character Inquisitors they already had...
No sale.
2013/12/12 23:20:00
Subject: GW's digital advent releases : day 12 : Reclusiam command squad/Draigo story p15
The inquisition codex was a big let down. I'm optimistic though and hopeful that the *next* edition will actually have something new.
It is funny that all these datasheets are for 6th edition armies. Cypher and that deamon fellow could both have been included in their codexes. If it is cynical dlc though, that in itself doesn't bother me. As long as the released products/rules are worth it, i'm happy. Even if i'll have to pay an extra £2 to use Creed six months after the ig codex is released.
The plural of codex is codexes.
2013/12/12 23:32:22
Subject: GW's digital advent releases : day 12 : Reclusiam command squad/Draigo story p15
Well there's little point putting out a data sheet that will be obsolete shortly as the old non-6th edition books get updated with all the potential changes that will arise
2013/12/12 23:47:43
Subject: GW's digital advent releases : day 12 : Reclusiam command squad/Draigo story p15
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
2013/12/13 09:24:58
Subject: Re:GW's digital advent releases : day 12 : Reclusiam command squad/Draigo story p15
Me learned friends who have indicate a tip o' the hat moment when Draigo seemingly spys the Old World/warhammer world at one point in his visions/journey.
Both the story and background piece concern Vulkan He'stan today.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2013/12/13 09:50:23
Subject: Re:GW's digital advent releases : day 12 : Reclusiam command squad/Draigo story p15
Me learned friends who have indicate a tip o' the hat moment when Draigo seemingly spys the Old World/warhammer world at one point in his visions/journey.
:/
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Dead account, no takesy-backsies
2013/12/13 11:38:42
Subject: Re:GW's digital advent releases : day 12 : Reclusiam command squad/Draigo story p15
Me learned friends who have indicate a tip o' the hat moment when Draigo seemingly spys the Old World/warhammer world at one point in his visions/journey.
Something non-space marine related in a BL advent calendar publication ? I can't believe it !
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
2013/12/13 18:13:38
Subject: GW's digital advent releases : day 12 : Reclusiam command squad/Draigo story p15
Whats worse is the rumours about FAQs disappearing and GW making it an app.
Pay for FAQs, mother fethers.
Rick Priestley said it best:
Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! The modern studio isn’t a studio in the same way; it isn’t a collection of artists and creatives sharing ideas and driving each other on. It’s become the promotions department of a toy company – things move on!
2013/12/14 00:54:19
Subject: GW's digital advent releases : day 13 :St. He'ston's day
Hahahahahaha!
That's really hillarious Ravenous D and wrong at so many levels at the same time.
M.
Jenkins: You don't have jurisdiction here!
Smith Jamison: We aren't here, which means when we open up on you and shred your bodies with automatic fire then this will never have happened.
About the Clans: "Those brief outbursts of sense can't hold back the wave of sibko bred, over hormoned sociopaths that they crank out though."
2013/12/14 01:00:43
Subject: GW's digital advent releases : day 13 :St. He'ston's day
GW has become EA. I joked for years, but it final happened.
Rick Priestley said it best:
Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! The modern studio isn’t a studio in the same way; it isn’t a collection of artists and creatives sharing ideas and driving each other on. It’s become the promotions department of a toy company – things move on!
2013/12/14 01:16:57
Subject: GW's digital advent releases : day 13 :St. He'ston's day
Oh I'm not saying that HQ has not floated the idea around it's just that a FAQ is easier to "pirate" than DLC. If you are playing with sensible people it just takes somebody in the group saying "Stealth now does not stack with Shrouded" to render the FAQ fee worthless.
Or even totally ignore the FAQ, I mean I do most of the time becuase I'm lazy to check if our gracious GW overlords have deign to update the things and honestly my opponents do not cared either.
M.
Jenkins: You don't have jurisdiction here!
Smith Jamison: We aren't here, which means when we open up on you and shred your bodies with automatic fire then this will never have happened.
About the Clans: "Those brief outbursts of sense can't hold back the wave of sibko bred, over hormoned sociopaths that they crank out though."
2013/12/14 01:23:07
Subject: GW's digital advent releases : day 13 :St. He'ston's day
Ravenous D wrote: Whats worse is the rumours about FAQs disappearing and GW making it an app.
Pay for FAQs, mother fethers.
Good grief.
How could they expect us to pay for them amending their own highly expensive books? That seems far fetched to me.
$5 per army with auto updates. Sooooo $75 for all 15 armies, that seems right in line with GW to me.
Rick Priestley said it best:
Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! The modern studio isn’t a studio in the same way; it isn’t a collection of artists and creatives sharing ideas and driving each other on. It’s become the promotions department of a toy company – things move on!
2013/12/14 09:50:53
Subject: GW's digital advent releases : day 13 :St. He'ston's day
Yeah, that won't happen. It's more likely they'd do this all-digital thing where your rules come in app form in the future - which could be skewed as "pay for FAQs", when in reality you'd just be paying for your codex book, same as always. That might be where this "rumour" came from.
Of course, I'm not saying they won't call it the "enhanced edition" as an excuse to slap another £5 on the asking price.
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Dead account, no takesy-backsies
2013/12/14 22:26:18
Subject: GW's digital advent releases : day 13 :St. He'ston's day
Can we keep this 'gw are going to start charging for faqs' in the bs thread where it belongs? I am actually interested in the advent releases, there seems to be little discussion of that.
The plural of codex is codexes.
2013/12/14 23:46:35
Subject: GW's digital advent releases : day 13 :St. He'ston's day
xruslanx wrote: Can we keep this 'gw are going to start charging for faqs' in the bs thread where it belongs? I am actually interested in the advent releases, there seems to be little discussion of that.
There also seems to be little to discuss seeing as how these things are all of what, 2 pages of rules each if that?
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Fafnir wrote: Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that.
2013/12/15 00:17:28
Subject: GW's digital advent releases : day 13 :St. He'ston's day
Well, I would love to read a review of the Draigo short story just to giggle at all the inanities it is certainly filled with. But it seems no-one has bought it !
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
https://twitter.com/WarComTeam/status/1268665798467432449/photo/1
2013/12/15 00:18:42
Subject: GW's digital advent releases : day 13 :St. He'ston's day
xruslanx wrote: Can we keep this 'gw are going to start charging for faqs' in the bs thread where it belongs? I am actually interested in the advent releases, there seems to be little discussion of that.
There also seems to be little to discuss seeing as how these things are all of what, 2 pages of rules each if that?
We could go back to talking about how the sky is falling because of balance. That was fun.
Dead account, no takesy-backsies
2013/12/15 01:23:35
Subject: GW's digital advent releases : day 13 :St. He'ston's day
xruslanx wrote: Can we keep this 'gw are going to start charging for faqs' in the bs thread where it belongs? I am actually interested in the advent releases, there seems to be little discussion of that.
Okay so we can go back to talking about this is the start of GW cutting back content to then charge us more for it later?
Rick Priestley said it best:
Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! The modern studio isn’t a studio in the same way; it isn’t a collection of artists and creatives sharing ideas and driving each other on. It’s become the promotions department of a toy company – things move on!
2013/12/15 14:20:06
Subject: GW's digital advent releases : day 13 :St. He'ston's day
xruslanx wrote: Can we keep this 'gw are going to start charging for faqs' in the bs thread where it belongs? I am actually interested in the advent releases, there seems to be little discussion of that.
Okay so we can go back to talking about this is the start of GW cutting back content to then charge us more for it later?
I wouldn't mind this if they actually gave the armies that needed content actual content. They could fix all the problems with older codexes but instead funnel resources into newer ones. It's infuriating.
2013/12/15 14:30:07
Subject: GW's digital advent releases : day 13 :St. He'ston's day
xruslanx wrote: Can we keep this 'gw are going to start charging for faqs' in the bs thread where it belongs? I am actually interested in the advent releases, there seems to be little discussion of that.
Okay so we can go back to talking about this is the start of GW cutting back content to then charge us more for it later?
I wouldn't mind this if they actually gave the armies that needed content actual content. They could fix all the problems with older codexes but instead funnel resources into newer ones. It's infuriating.
It should not be that infuriating when put into the context of the armies "needing content" are older ones slated for revision within the near future.
Could you imagine the complaints if they released a Wood Elf battlescroll for a giant treeman--and then within a year released the new Wood Elf army book without the rules from the battlescroll as part of it?
2013/12/15 15:20:48
Subject: GW's digital advent releases : day 13 :St. He'ston's day
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote: Well, I would love to read a review of the Draigo short story just to giggle at all the inanities it is certainly filled with. But it seems no-one has bought it !
Agreed.
I would love to hear about what Draigo does for an encore in this fluff- namely writing all the works of Shakespeare on a clone of Horus.
If you skim over the angry fanboy rant sections of this review, which is about 80% of it ("Draigod" etc) there are some very vague allusions to plot details. It doesn't sound like anything terribly interesting, just narrative of Draigo "wandering" in the warp and apparently fighting powerful champions of chaos one at a time. Yeah...
Bull0 wrote: If you skim over the angry fanboy rant sections of this review, which is about 80% of it ("Draigod" etc) there are some very vague allusions to plot details. It doesn't sound like anything terribly interesting, just narrative of Draigo "wandering" in the warp and apparently fighting powerful champions of chaos one at a time. Yeah...
The lack of murdered/mutilated/witness protection programmed Chaos Gods and/or Daemon Primarchs makes me very sad. Draigo should be making cat's cradles with their divine intestinal tracks by this point rather than fighting their sodden minions.
Truly GW has no sense of scale of what Draigo should be capable of.
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