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For those who didn't get the Interactive Edition, the Adeptus Stormwing just got updated. Units from Codex: Space Marines in the same army as a Stormwing can embark on the Stormraven, and the file confirms that none of the three flyers has a Chapter Tactic.

Unfortunately, the graphics in the new file are totally busted.
   
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alphaecho wrote:


In my view the wording means you can use the 'model' not the character Cypher as a generic Dark Angels Captain. Unless the upcoming rules say he can be used with the Dark Angels, you're stuck with using the model as a generic Dark Angels Captain OR as Cypher. In other words the 'Cypher model' has been officially fieldable while 'Cypher' hasn't.


"Depending on your interpretation of his background" makes it pretty damn clear that they're referring to the character Cypher himself when they say you can field him as a Dark Angels captain. Maybe your idea of his background might disallow him from being head of a Dark Angels(-ish) force, but the current website makes it absolutely clear with this explicit statement that others who interpret him another way can use him as such.

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TiamatRoar wrote:
alphaecho wrote:


In my view the wording means you can use the 'model' not the character Cypher as a generic Dark Angels Captain. Unless the upcoming rules say he can be used with the Dark Angels, you're stuck with using the model as a generic Dark Angels Captain OR as Cypher. In other words the 'Cypher model' has been officially fieldable while 'Cypher' hasn't.


"Depending on your interpretation of his background" makes it pretty damn clear that they're referring to the character Cypher himself when they say you can field him as a Dark Angels captain. Maybe your idea of his background might disallow him from being head of a Dark Angels(-ish) force, but the current website makes it absolutely clear with this explicit statement that others who interpret him another way can use him as such.

Cypher's model had no rules when the brief on the webpage was written. The fact that the model is still metal should tell you that the product blurb will likely not affect the Dataslate which comes out this month.

Even if Cypher cannot be taken, per the Dataslate, by Dark Angels? There is nothing stopping you from having a "special character" of your own allowing for you to field Cypher's model as an unnamed Company Master who Cypher is in fact disguising himself as.

Company Master
Plasma Pistol
Bolt Pistol
Shroud of Heroes
Displacer Field, Power Field Generator, or Conversion Field depending on how you choose to interpret the "Chaos Gods intervening" whenever Cypher is close to death.

Now please.
Please.
Let it go until we actually have Cypher's rules to complain about?

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TiamatRoar wrote:
alphaecho wrote:


In my view the wording means you can use the 'model' not the character Cypher as a generic Dark Angels Captain. Unless the upcoming rules say he can be used with the Dark Angels, you're stuck with using the model as a generic Dark Angels Captain OR as Cypher. In other words the 'Cypher model' has been officially fieldable while 'Cypher' hasn't.


"Depending on your interpretation of his background" makes it pretty damn clear that they're referring to the character Cypher himself when they say you can field him as a Dark Angels captain. Maybe your idea of his background might disallow him from being head of a Dark Angels(-ish) force, but the current website makes it absolutely clear with this explicit statement that others who interpret him another way can use him as such.


"Even though there is no Codex entry for Cypher, this model could be used as an unusual Dark Angels Captain - or Chaos Space Marines Lord, depending on your interpretation of his background..."

There is no argument that you can use the model. You can even call him Cypher. The model would not be Cypher though because Cypher does not exist as a current ruleset. That is how they could continue to sell a model that had no rules.

At the end of this month though, you could find out that "Cypher" the character can't be used in a Dark Angels army. That will never stop you using the model as you wish.

And I believe the term you hipster kids use is "ninja'd"!!!

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I haven't been this bored by a GW release in a long time. There is nothing even remotely related to any of the armies I play.

That's like 99,99% of GW release for me .

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http://www.blacklibrary.com/2013-advent

2 fiction/background pieces today.

The BL one is a Typhus short, whilst we also have a fluff piece/history of the Terminus Est, the ship he pootles around in.

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Who in his mind would by a Typhus short ?

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someone who was interested in typhus?

The plural of codex is codexes.
 
   
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Does the terminus eat book contain rules or just fluff?
   
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olim wrote:
Does the terminus eat book contain rules or just fluff?



Judging by past releases it would be fluff/background info only.



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 Kroothawk wrote:
Who in his mind would by a Typhus short ?


I see what you did there...funny stuff Kroot heeh.

To answer your question it would be someone with a LOT of bleach....

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DaddyWarcrimes wrote:
For those who didn't get the Interactive Edition, the Adeptus Stormwing just got updated. Units from Codex: Space Marines in the same army as a Stormwing can embark on the Stormraven, and the file confirms that none of the three flyers has a Chapter Tactic.

Unfortunately, the graphics in the new file are totally busted.


I'm admittedly not very experienced with the current edition but doesn't that make the paid microtransaction DLC rules better than the free to play Allies? I thought I remembered something about even battle brother allied units not being able to get into allied transports.
   
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Well, from what I can see from that post, only Space Marines can get into them, and Space Marines already have them as an option in their regular primary detachment. So it's not particularly a big deal I imagine.

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http://www.blacklibrary.com/2013-advent

Centurion siegebreaker apoc. formation and a Lysander short story.

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Soo... Only for apocalypse this one is?
I was hoping for a centurion 40k formation to keep up with the tau and eldar

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Assault Centurions are a powerful weapon in the armouries of the Adeptus Astartes, able to smash apart enemy fortifications and open the way for full-scale assaults. Combined with Ironclad Dreadnoughts, many Space Marine Chapters use them to form Centurion Siegebreaker Cohorts, ideal for cracking open stubborn enemy defences.

Warhammer 40,000: Apocalypse – Centurion Siegebreaker Cohorts presents a new formation for your games of Apocalypse. The ideal counter to enemy strongpoints, the Centurion Siegebreaker Cohort is a righteous hammer with which to shatter your opponent’s fortifications.



In case you don't have enough str D weapons.

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"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
 
   
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Eh it doesn't really matter that the assault centurion formation is apoc only.. The rules for them are worse than mutilators so there is no possible way to save them or make them useful beyond rewriting their rules.


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Any hints as to what it does? I might buy it if I knew what it did (or is this like Congress... pass it and then find out what you bought?).

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 Lobukia wrote:
Any hints as to what it does? I might buy it if I knew what it did (or is this like Congress... pass it and then find out what you bought?).


According to Natfka (http://natfka.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/a-first-look-at-dataslate-centurion.html)...

Natfka wrote:
The formation consists of 2+ Centurion Assault Squads and 1+ Ironclad Dreadnought. All Centurions must be equipped with an omniscope. The formation itself comes with 2 special rules for the formation; Demolition Specialists and Seismic Devastation.

Demolition Specialists: While a sergeant is alive somewhere in this formation, re-roll armour penetration rolls, vs buildings, and can re-roll any glancing hits, but the second result must be accepted.

Seismic Devastation: If a building if the building suffers a partial collapse or worse from a close combat attack, those inside the building suffer d6 additional s6 hits that ignore cover.

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I guess that makes sense. A building is the only thing the Centurions could actually catch up to.

I'm expecting an Imperial Knights supplement dedicated to GW's loyalist apologetics. Codex: White Knights "In the grim dark future, everything is fine."

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From Natfka, Reclusiam details-

http://natfka.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/a-first-look-dataslate-reclusiam.html
A First Look: Dataslate Reclusiam Command Squad

The latest from Games Workshop digital is now up for download; Dataslate Reclusiam Command Squad for Space Marines. Like the other dataslates, this one is for regular play, but this one has something new to it; a point cost.


To use the Reclusiam Command Squad there is a small point cost added to the cost of the models. (its small and I wont post it, but its under 30). For the benefits of a formation I rather like this, and think it should be included for the extra benefits that some of these formations give.

For Codex: Space Marines
The Reclusiam Command Squad consists of a Chaplin, Razorback, and a Command Squad. When taken, you get two special powers, Crusader and Relentless Zeal.

Crusader allows you to roll one extra die when running and pick the highest, and adds d3 to your sweeping advance total.

Relentless Zeal is the big one, allowing the formation to re-roll misses in every round of close combat.

There are some restrictions as well with this formation, you must include a Company Champion, Apothecary, and a Company Standard.

Overall I like this unit, and can see its uses on the tabletop. I also think that paying an extra tax for these special rules is a good thing, along with its tighter restrictions, and I would not object to the Tau Firebase Support Cadre getting updated with a small point cost to tax the incredible benefits of its special rules.
   
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Not sure if already mentioned, but GW confirmed on facebook that there are no plans for a printed Codex Inquisition:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/567893.page

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So it must not have sold all that well then right?

I'm legitimately surprised about that, I thought codex inquisition was something everyone has wanted ever since the old daemon/witch hunter books were scrapped.

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You're right when you say many people wanted Codex: Inquisition. Trouble is what we got instead was Codex: Grey Knights Excerpt aka Codex: Divination.

Being a C:GK owner, I see no reason to splash out for C:I, as it brings nothing new to the table save cross-codex shenanigans I don't care for.
   
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http://www.blacklibrary.com/2013-advent


the afore mentioned Reclusiam command squad and a Draigo short...


wondering if the latter will perhaps tie into the forthcoming Draigo/Mortarion audio drama....?

The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
 
   
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How many Chaos Gods does Draigo steal lunch money from in this new story?


 jonolikespie wrote:
I'm legitimately surprised about that, I thought codex inquisition was something everyone has wanted ever since the old daemon/witch hunter books were scrapped.


I'm pretty sure everyone still wants a Codex: Inquisition. Sadly GW has yet to create one.

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 Kroothawk wrote:
Not sure if already mentioned, but GW confirmed on facebook that there are no plans for a printed Codex Inquisition:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/567893.page



Booo. I guess this means i'll have to buy the digital version and then print it out in a spiral binder. Sigh.

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I mean, it's Dakka. I thought snide arguments from emotion were what we did here.


 
   
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Is it just me, or does it bother anyone else that the reclusium command squad box came out with the space marine codex, but is only now getting separate pay-to-play rules? Why couldn't this have gone into the codex?

I get that GW wants to have a profitable Christmas season, but at a certain point this just seems like profiteering.
   
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 jonolikespie wrote:
So it must not have sold all that well then right?

I'm legitimately surprised about that, I thought codex inquisition was something everyone has wanted ever since the old daemon/witch hunter books were scrapped.


As others have said, it's not a codex. It may have the name, but its FIVE units with 0 being new which does not a codex make. You're paying 30$ to use Coteaz, divination and servo skulls.


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