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How does this work?

Is a squadron a "unit" for the purposes of presience?

And how does this work with large blast weapons? Reroll all three dice if it isn't a bull's eye?

-Works just like it would on a unit of infantry.

-Yes

-Works like you stated.

That's pretty great with 3 Russes or Manticores or whatever then, surely? How come I don't see that and Primaris Psyker giving Presience as an allied detachment? Must be a massive boon to Alpha strike capability, no?

Well, the Primaris Psyker doesn't get Divination, for one thing.

And while a squadron with Prescience has a lot of firepower, the squadron rules force all the tanks to fire at the same target -- often resulting in overkill.

that and vanilla russes suck. If i had to pick a squadron of russes i'd pick punishers with heavy bolters for dakka goodness.

Thought Primaris Psyker could now pick from divination (default presience) no?

What made you think that?

Um... Probably not looking after my brain properly in my late teenage / early twenties recreational activities.

Guess I'd need to take an inquisitor too. This is getting more expensive...


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But then if have servo skulls.

Why is it getting more expensive? A Primaris Psyker is more expensive than an inquisitor, even one with servo skulls.

Yes. But in an allies detachment for a non imperial army I now need an inquisitor and a CCS so probs 40ish points more expensive with the skulls...

The CCS is a nice unit. You'd be hard pressed to find a more point efficient concentration of BS4 special weapons and force multipliers anywhere.

They'll need a ride to get them where they need to go, but I wouldn't complain about having to take a CCS. Having to take one as your warlord was a miserable state of affairs for a long time, but Codex: Inquisition largely solved that.

Which force multipliers?

Obviously each high strength weapon is another 10/15 points.

So pretty soon you're looking at quite a few points.

What I'm trying to figure out is a way to add some chunky blasts to a necron army... So thinking about allied detachments.

I'm talking about Orders. You know, rerolling cover saves? Twin-linking against Vehicles/MCs? That stuff.

their main problem is awful survivability. To make orders - you got to see the target. That (most likely) makes the enemy see them And i bet you know what's gona happen to a bunch of t3 5+ guyz that buff u'r blobs and are gona give "Slay the warlord" if killed. Putting them in 12-10-10 vehicle won't make them much more durable.
However, there's one cunning thing to make them survive. Don't make them TOO effective so the enemy will just ignore your ccs for a while. Bring more threats that are more preferable. I play orkses with ig allies. I don't take chimera cause in my list things that have av are either BW-s with a few trucks or none at all, which makes 12 av the least durable on the battlefield since there are tons of s7 around.

About rerolls for barrage - it's super-useful if you can get it. Sometimes i run lobbas (s5 ap5 barrage) in squads of 3 gunz with grot crew and they can get up to 3 rerolls for a few points. So i can tell u. Even that s5 ap5 multiple barrage with rerolls is truly awesome - it can kill a few packed up termies not telling bout guyz like tau and ig. Sniping out specialists and sergeants, pinning and no los requirements deservs spending some points on rerolls imo.

Which is why I specifically mentioned taking an Inquisitor from Codex: Inquisition and using that as your Warlord. The CCS is a much less tempting target when they're not giving up an (extra) victory point.

Corollax wrote:
Which is why I specifically mentioned taking an Inquisitor from Codex: Inquisition and using that as your Warlord. The CCS is a much less tempting target when they're not giving up an (extra) victory point.

But then you couldn't take 3 Vendettas.

Polecat wrote:

Corollax wrote:
Which is why I specifically mentioned taking an Inquisitor from Codex: Inquisition and using that as your Warlord. The CCS is a much less tempting target when they're not giving up an (extra) victory point.

But then you couldn't take 3 Vendettas.

The inquisition "codex" specifically allows the inquisitor to be the warlord even if it isn't part of your primary detachment. Because why would you ever want to have any drawbacks with C:I?

Take an Inquisitor, put psychic shenanigans on your gunline, lay down servo skulls because Infiltrator is for nerds and scout is OP, then go to town on your hapless opponent and display your excellence at picking the most expensive unit and rolling dice at it until it leaves the table.

I'm sure that there will be some crazy combo of psyker + baneblade in there as well. Have at 'em

This is what I plan on doing. I'm taking coteaz, a xenos inquisitor with a radiation cannon (whatever that thing is called) and a couple acolyte squads. Put the xenos INQ next to my manticore, prescience it, and put coteaz in the guard blob with 3 autocannons or something, and if anything deep strikes it gets lasguns and autocannons to the face. Coteaz gives them prescience too.

Take Leman Russ Exterminators, Vendettas, and RE-ROLL ALL THE HITS! XD