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 Veteran Sergeant wrote:

The reason why media companies use West Coast USA talent for voiceovers since California is pretty much one of the only places where the majority of natives speak unaccented English, lol.

If you're not from America you'll know this is wrong on do many levels

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:
Why in the world would there be a short e sound in that word? EE is always a long sound.

Always.

The only legitimate alternative to it being pronounced like "bees" is if you took it as an allophonic - the ae sound from the greek eta. That would be a stretch, though, and you'd sound like a... umm... we'll go with Southern Dandy... if you pronounced it like that.

Tzentch like clench or bench? That's just pronouncing it wrong.

 Redcruisair wrote:
I say "Ziiinch" with a good bit of spittle.


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 Veteran Sergeant wrote:

 SarisKhan wrote:

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:
It is important to note that, as a general rule, people from the UK don't know how to properly speak English.

I find this statement amusing. I'll assume it's tongue-in-cheek, though.

Only kinda.

Technically the modern language is American English (really just American) as more than 90% of the new additions to the lexicon are American in origin, and their correct pronunciations are American. That, and the majority of new words in other languages are American, lol.

The Brits had a good run though. They'll always have Shakespeare.

You really enjoy saying this kind of stuff don't you Veteran Sergeant?

Because 'Murrica.

It's both amusing, and true.

So, sure, why not?

I mean, if the discussion was about someone from parts of southern America pronouncing things incorrectly, it would be just as true. /shrug No reason to get all bent out of shape about it.

There's also a reason why nobody sources voiceover talent from New Orleans or Birmingham unless they're looking for those specific regional dialects.

I think you're putting the cart before the horse. While video games and such are drawing an ever-increasing number of voice actors into the industry, the lion's share of this work is still in film and television.

Where are the film and television studios located? The West Coast.

Why? This is where Hollywood is located. This is where modern American cinema got its start in the first quarter of the 20th century.

Why do they hire locals? It's cheaper.

It has nothing to do with a regional accent, because there are *plenty* of places, and people, in the South and in New England that don't have accents.

Tzeentch's name is itself imbued by the twisting powers of chaos. Merely attempting to pronounce it would burn your tounge.

.................

The Changer of Ways will to me forever be known as Bench.

Veteran Sergeant wrote:]It is important to note that, as a general rule, people from the UK don't know how to properly speak English.

The reason why media companies use West Coast USA talent for voiceovers since California is pretty much one of the only places where the majority of natives speak unaccented English, lol.

Veteran Sergeant wrote:
Technically the modern language is American English (really just American) as more than 90% of the new additions to the lexicon are American in origin, and their correct pronunciations are American. That, and the majority of new words in other languages are American, lol.

The Brits had a good run though. They'll always have Shakespeare.

I hate to disagree with you there old chap (actually I love to, but I'm British and it's important to note that as a general rule we're far more polite than Americans)*, but people from England, and by extension the UK, most certainly do know how to speak English. Because it's our language. So much so that the language is named after it's country of origin, funnily enough.

If I was going to be childish about this, I'd mention that we had it first. You've merely exported it and messed with the spelling a bit. Terribly sorry to criticise you.

I think you'll also find that people from California speak English, or "American" if you insist, with a Californian accent. Just as people from Birmingham (not the one in Alabama, obviously) speak English with a Birmingham accent, and people from Australia speak English with an Australian accent.

*Sweeping generalisations are fun!

On topic, ever since I was about 10 or 11, I've always pronounced Tzeentch like "tzatziki" to start with, followed by "bench". Looking at it now that's probably wrong, but it was easier for my 10 year old mouth to pronounce and I'm too set in my ways to change now.

 Silentspy22 wrote:
Tzeentch's name is itself imbued by the twisting powers of chaos. Merely attempting to pronounce it would burn your tounge.

.................

The Changer of Ways will to me forever be known as Bench.

Does that mean the Marked of Tzeentch are now "Bench Marks?"

*ba dum tsh*

master of asgard wrote:I hate to disagree with you there old chap (actually I love to, but I'm British and it's important to note that as a general rule we're far more polite than Americans)*, but people from England, and by extension the UK, most certainly do know how to speak English. Because it's our language. So much so that the language is named after it's country of origin, funnily enough.

Funnily enough you had some colonies and an Empire at one point too.

 Deadshot wrote:
Tuh-zeen-tch. Deadshot don't do silent letters in made up words.

How can you not respect that? Ha, I personally pronounce the whole thing Zeench, with the "hard" e.

master of asgard wrote:
On topic, ever since I was about 10 or 11, I've always pronounced Tzeentch like "tzatziki" to start with, followed by "bench". Looking at it now that's probably wrong, but it was easier for my 10 year old mouth to pronounce and I'm too set in my ways to change now.

This is also how I pronounce it.

However, I've always liked the theory that it is literally pronounced 'Change'. It's not entirely outside the realm of possibility to stretch the pronunciation to that, and it fits the lore perfectly.

I've heard it pronounced as a semi silent T like tzatziki with either zen - tch (short 'e' sound like Zen or Ten) or zeen - tch (long 'e' sound like Teen or Seen)

One syllable.

zeench

I know I say it improperly and fanboyz across the world spaz whenever I say it, but when my gaming group started playing back in the 80s, it was only the 3 of us and we came up with our own pronunciations. I've always said it "Tzeen-tick".

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:

master of asgard wrote:I hate to disagree with you there old chap (actually I love to, but I'm British and it's important to note that as a general rule we're far more polite than Americans)*, but people from England, and by extension the UK, most certainly do know how to speak English. Because it's our language. So much so that the language is named after it's country of origin, funnily enough.

Funnily enough you had some colonies and an Empire at one point too.

I'd always assumed that the 'tz' followed the same rules as 'ts' as in 'tsar'. So i'd pronounce it zeench, i think that's the most popular.

Tseenth. I say everything as I read it unless I'm conversing in another language.

I am most definitely pronouncing it wrong, but I always pronounce it tazneech. This makes it much easier to say (unlike tzz-een-te-ch, which is what I say when I sound it out).

This: tehh-zeen-ch

Tcheench, like in Chen + Seen + Chen

Why? Because. Also, it's not an English word so who knows how THEY pronounce it.

I've always gone with (and heard it as):

"Z-ey-nch"

No idea why though.

EDIT: From a fluff perspective, Tzeentch is pronounced however anyone wants, what with Tzeentch being the lord of change etc.

The 'Tz' as in 'Tzar'
The 'ee' as 'ea' in 'Tea'
The 'n' as the second 'n' in 'banana'
The 'tch' as a sharp 'ts' sound


Also, the only correct pronuncation of English is British RP. Everything else is dialect/accent.
Americans claiming to speak 'better' English than those who invented it is outright silly.

 Iron_Captain wrote:
The 'Tz' as in 'Tzar'
The 'ee' as 'ea' in 'Tea'
The 'tch' as a sharp 'ts' sound

So: "Ts-ee-ts" ?

 Selym wrote:

 Iron_Captain wrote:
The 'Tz' as in 'Tzar'
The 'ee' as 'ea' in 'Tea'
The 'tch' as a sharp 'ts' sound

So: "Ts-ee-ts" ?

Oh right, I forgot the 'n'. and the first 's' sounds slightly different than the last one. It is the difference between 's' and 'z'.


In phonetics it would be: zI:ntʃ

 Iron_Captain wrote:
In phonetics it would be: zI:ntʃ

I approve

 TheCustomLime wrote:
I pronounce it as "Zeentch".

That is also how it was pronounced in one of the audio books.

Al-Fair-Yus

Pretty close to "change".

Dame Judi Tzeentch

Does it truly matter? We've speaking of the God of Change, which is ever-changing - his name could be changing constantly too.