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I'm playing in a doubles tournament soon and i will be teaming up with a Chaos list. As i am still new to the game my teammate will be taking more of an aggressive role with his list so i am trying to provide support for him. How does my list look for 1000pts?

HQ
Ordo Malleus Inquisitor 65pts
Frag, Krak and Psyk-out Grenades
Terminator Armour, Nemesis Daemonhammer, Storm Bolter

Troops
Grey Knight Strike Squad 255pts (10man)
Psybolt Ammunition, 2x Psycannon, Nemesis Force Daemonhammer, 6x Nemesis Force Sword
Justicar: Nemesis Force Halberd

Grey Knight Terminator Squad 225pts (5man)
Nemesis Force Daemonhammer, Nemesis Force Halberd, 2x Nemesis Force Sword, Psycannon
Justicar: Nemesis Force Halberd

Fast Attack
Grey Knight Interceptor Squad 181pts (5man)
Psycannon, 2x Nemesis Force Halberd, 2x Nemesis Force Sword
Justicar: Nemesis Force Halberd

Heavy Support
2 Dreadnoughts 270pts
Psybolt Ammunition, Smoke Launchers, Twin Linked Autocannon, Twin Linked Autocannon

Total 996

We'd really need to have at least an inkling of the chaos list to help.

Forgive the formatting on this, it was the list he sent me over facebook.

Lord, Mark of Khorne, 4++, Juggernaught, Daemon Axe, Melta bombs, vets = 180
4xSpawn = 120
10xChaos Marines, Mark of Khorne, 2xFlamers, lightning claw, 9xCCW, Icon of Wrath, Rhino, Dirge caster = 263
10xChaos Marines, Mark of Khorne, 2xFlamers, lightning claw, 9xCCW, Icon of Wrath, Rhino, Dirge caster = 263
Baeldrake = 170

This is a CC list he said. Not sure if this is what hes going with 100% we will see for sure this monday. My list can change a little if needs be but money and time to assemble and paint are going to become an issue.

Lsjreadingpa wrote:

Grey Knight Strike Squad 255pts (10man)
Psybolt Ammunition, 2x Psycannon, Nemesis Force Daemonhammer, 6x Nemesis Force Sword
Justicar: Nemesis Force Halberd

Lose the Halberd

Lsjreadingpa wrote:
Grey Knight Terminator Squad 225pts (5man)
Nemesis Force Daemonhammer, Nemesis Force Halberd, 2x Nemesis Force Sword, Psycannon
Justicar: Nemesis Force Halberd

Make sure the Psycannon has the Sword, take 1 Hammer and make the other 3 halberds

Lsjreadingpa wrote:

Grey Knight Interceptor Squad 181pts (5man)
Psycannon, 2x Nemesis Force Halberd, 2x Nemesis Force Sword
Justicar: Nemesis Force Halberd

Lose the psycannon and all halberds, see if you can get 10 with psybolt.(Psybolt is more necessary here than with the strikes)



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Oh and the malleus inquisitor needs a psycannon, its the best reason to take him as a terminator...besides deepstrike-ability.


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Chaos dude needs some melta...not flamers.

If he can pop armor then the both of you can handle whatever was in it.

So drop the psybolt on GKSS and add it to the Interceptors? Only way to get 10 interceptors is dropping a squad or a dread.

Lsjreadingpa wrote:
So drop the psybolt on GKSS and add it to the Interceptors? Only way to get 10 interceptors is dropping a squad or a dread.

How many points do my changes put you at?

I like to slim lists down instead of build them up.


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Lsjreadingpa wrote:
So drop the psybolt on GKSS and add it to the Interceptors?

Only if there are ten, never put psybolt on a unit smaller than 10.

With dropping the weapons and adding the psycannon on the HQ i am at 955.

Slim the strikes down to five man with one psycannon, move their psybolt over to the interceptors, and give them the strikes hammer too.

Give the Malleus Terminator a Psycannon.

This is the updated list.

HQ
Ordo Malleus Inquisitor 80pts
Frag, Krak and Psyk-out Grenades
Terminator Armour, Nemesis Daemonhammer, Psycannon

Troops
Grey Knight Strike Squad 140pts (5man)
Psycannon, 4x Nemesis Force Sword
Justicar: Nemesis Force Sword

Grey Knight Terminator Squad 225pts (5man)
Nemesis Force Daemonhammer, Nemesis Force Halberd, 2x Nemesis Force Sword, Psycannon
Justicar: Nemesis Force Halberd

Fast Attack
Grey Knight Interceptor Squad 290pts (10man)
Psybolt Ammunition, 8x Nemesis Force Sword, Nemesis Force Daemonhammer
Justicar: Nemesis Force Sword

Heavy Support
2 Dreadnoughts 270pts
Psybolt Ammunition, Smoke Launchers, Twin Linked Autocannon, Twin Linked Autocannon

Total 1005

I would do:

Rad nades to hq.

GKSS down to 5x men and drop all upgrades other then psycannon.

Terminators 2x hammers, 2 halberds, justicar has sword.

Interceptors up to 10x men, 2 psycannons, lose all upgrades other then psybolt ammo, and hammer on justicar.

Are smoke launchers optional on a dread?

Lose them if possible.

Otherwise lose the Interceptor Daemonhammer and take whatever you want with your 5 points...Maybe a MC weapon somewhere.

 Arbiter wrote:
I would do:

Rad nades to hq.

GKSS down to 5x men and drop all upgrades other then psycannon.

Terminators 2x hammers, 2 halberds, justicar has sword.

Interceptors up to 10x men, 2 psycannons, lose all upgrades other then psybolt ammo, and hammer on justicar.

List comes 1077 and HQ can't take RAD grenades.

Sidenote: posting points is not really allowed on dakka.

 ductvader wrote:
Are smoke launchers optional on a dread?

Lose them if possible.

Otherwise lose the Interceptor Daemonhammer and take whatever you want with your 5 points...Maybe a MC weapon somewhere.

Part of their wargear.


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No points at all?

Lsjreadingpa wrote:

 ductvader wrote:
Are smoke launchers optional on a dread?

Lose them if possible.

Otherwise lose the Interceptor Daemonhammer and take whatever you want with your 5 points...Maybe a MC weapon somewhere.

Part of their wargear.


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No points at all?

Right, you'll need to love the hammer...it'll put you at 5 pts under.

You can't write:
This unit costs 200 points
This guy costs 20 points
This wargear costs 2 points.

A 6th ed GK list that doesn't start with Coteaz/Draigo is going to have some serious problems, we sorely lack in the troops department and contesting objectives is how you win the game.

Coteaz is like 15~ bucks, grab one and love it.

If I were to revise your list:
Coteaz 100
GKSSX9 /W Psybolt 200
Rhino 40

Grey Knight Terminator Squad 225pts (5man)
Nemesis Force Daemonhammer, Nemesis Force Halberd, 2x Nemesis Force Sword, Psycannon
Justicar: Nemesis Force Halberd

2x Psydreads 270

Then invest in some razerbacks and warrior acolytes with the rest of the points, it will give you some firepower and great scoring units.

Don't forget how strong Coteaz' mele attacks are after hammerhand. He is very capable of wrecking a waveserpent on his own and will have the benefit of krak grenades.

I agree /w melta's on the chaos list, I'd also suggest taking nurgle over Khorne on the lord and then just a simple power weapon over the axe. Same with the Aspiring's, power sword over claws and cut mark of khorne.

Take off dirge casters and give the spawn Nurgle aswell.

Rage SOUNDS exciting but it's about getting that charge off, your squad is going to win combat vs MEQ anyways so rage isn't needed.


"I like to slim lists down instead of build them up."

And never has that been more true than with GK

 Aijec wrote:
A 6th ed GK list that doesn't start with Coteaz/Draigo is going to have some serious problems, we sorely lack in the troops department and contesting objectives is how you win the game.

Coteaz is like 15~ bucks, grab one and love it.

If I were to revise your list:
Coteaz 100
GKSSX9 /W Psybolt 200
Rhino 40

Grey Knight Terminator Squad 225pts (5man)
Nemesis Force Daemonhammer, Nemesis Force Halberd, 2x Nemesis Force Sword, Psycannon
Justicar: Nemesis Force Halberd

2x Psydreads 270

Then invest in some razerbacks and warrior acolytes with the rest of the points, it will give you some firepower and great scoring units.

Don't forget how strong Coteaz' mele attacks are after hammerhand. He is very capable of wrecking a waveserpent on his own and will have the benefit of krak grenades.

I agree /w melta's on the chaos list, I'd also suggest taking nurgle over Khorne on the lord and then just a simple power weapon over the axe. Same with the Aspiring's, power sword over claws and cut mark of khorne.

Take off dirge casters and give the spawn Nurgle aswell.

Rage SOUNDS exciting but it's about getting that charge off, your squad is going to win combat vs MEQ anyways so rage isn't needed.


"I like to slim lists down instead of build them up."

And never has that been more true than with GK

I might not have the time/money to get acolytes. I have the razorback.

Make sure you bring his advice to your partner.

Meltas are key there too.

And charge will be difficult with those rhinos.

 ductvader wrote:
Make sure you bring his advice to your partner.

Meltas are key there too.

And charge will be difficult with those rhinos.

Charge will be difficult?

Yes i will def send that info off to my teammate.

Lsjreadingpa wrote:

 ductvader wrote:
Make sure you bring his advice to your partner.

Meltas are key there too.

And charge will be difficult with those rhinos.

Charge will be difficult?

Yes i will def send that info off to my teammate.

Rage is only really worthwhile when you know you can get the charge.

A rhino prevents you from getting that to a large extent...but it can always make for a great screen to have the guys run behind as well.


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Nurgle will receive an incoming charge a lot better.

My teammate told me he is going with a different list :
Lord, Mark of Nurgle, 4++, Bike, Claw, Brand, Melta bomb
7xPlague Marines, 2xPlasma guns, rhino
7xPlague Marines, 2xPlasma guns, rhino
Baeldrake
5xBikes, Mark of Nurgle, 2xPlasma guns, Power axe

Any other suggestions?

well having played(or playing) both armies I might think about trying this:

OMI - termie, hammer, psycannon, ML1, 1xservoskull - 113

paladins - 5 man, 2xsword, 1xhammer, 2xhalberds, 2xpsycannons - 315

strike - 5 man, 1xpsycannon, rhino - 150

strike - 5 man, 1xpsycannon, rhino - 150

dreadnought - 2x TL autocannon, psyammo, searchlight - 136

dreadnought - 2x TL autocannon, psyammo, searchlight - 136

1k/1k

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Lord - MoN, combiplasma, LC, bike, sigil - 150

PM - 6 man, 2x plasma, rhino - 209

PM - 6 man, 2x plasma, rhino - 209

cultists - 15 man, flamer, 2x autoguns - 77

baledrake - 170

bikers - 5 man, MoN, 2xmelta, champ(combiplasma, LC) - 185

1k/1k

will probably need others to pick it apart but I think its a good base

 BewareOfTom wrote:
well having played(or playing) both armies I might think about trying this:

OMI - termie, hammer, psycannon, ML1, 1xservoskull - 113

paladins - 5 man, 2xsword, 1xhammer, 2xhalberds, 2xpsycannons - 315

strike - 5 man, 1xpsycannon, rhino - 150

strike - 5 man, 1xpsycannon, rhino - 150

dreadnought - 2x TL autocannon, psyammo, searchlight - 136

dreadnought - 2x TL autocannon, psyammo, searchlight - 136

1k/1k

I like the addition of the paladins, i might just have to run this tomorrow night and see how it plays.

Played my teammate last night with his part of the list and mine and we both liked the results. Paladins did some work for me as well as the dread and two rhinos. He won the match, sadly failed my leadership on my paladins and they ran straight off the board on some stupid high number. That cost me 2 paladins and my hq XD