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I've been trying to conjure up ways in my head to make an elite Tzeentch only assault army for the 1500 points level... it seems CSM are geared mainly towards getting into close combat.

I'll be using an allied contingent of Black Legion.

HQ
Lord (Warlord)
Combat Familiar, Gift of Mutation, Mark of Tzeentch, Disc of Tzeentch, Sigil of Corruption, The Black Mace, The Murder Sword
Sorcerer
Spell Familiar, Gift of Mutation, Mark of Tzeentch, Disc of Tzeentch, Sigil of Corruption, Burnining Brand of Skalanthrax, Force Weapon, Level 3 Psyker.
Lord
Mark of Tzeentch, Disc of Tzeentch, Sigil of Corruption, Veterans of the Long War, Lightning Claw, Powerfist
Troops
10x Cultists
10x Cultists
10x Cultists
Elites
3x Mutilator
Mark of Tzeentch
Heavy Support
Maulerfiend
Maulerfiend
Maulerfiend
Maulerfiend
All with Magma Cutters

I will have all the HQ as a unit of three charging up with the Maulfiends, attempting to avoid nasty weapons using scenery. After the multilators deep strike to cause a further distraction, may have them as 3 solo mutilators rather than unit of three. Cultists stay in reserve until turn 2-3 to run for whatever objectives are around.

How do you have the black mace and the murder sword? you can only take 1 relic per army.

sand.zzz wrote:
How do you have the black mace and the murder sword? you can only take 1 relic per army.

Only one of each. Seeing as the Murder Sword is not the Black Mace and the Black Mace is not the Murder Sword (and neither are the Burning Brand), the list is perfectly legal. However, it uses Mutilators, which is just a sin. Take Chaos Spawn! They're actually good now!

But they will deep strike distracting people from shooting the maulerfiends...

 Frozen Ocean wrote:

sand.zzz wrote:
How do you have the black mace and the murder sword? you can only take 1 relic per army.

Only one of each. Seeing as the Murder Sword is not the Black Mace and the Black Mace is not the Murder Sword (and neither are the Burning Brand), the list is perfectly legal. However, it uses Mutilators, which is just a sin. Take Chaos Spawn! They're actually good now!

Well... Codex Chaos Space Marines says "A model can replace one weapon with one of the following" (my boldface) meaning that you can't have one character take two artifacts. So it's either the Black Mace or the Murder Sword on that lord, not both.

Split mutilators up so at least 3 units must shoot at them.

Give the murdersword to the other lord unless you think that the bm and ms confers an additional attack.

If the sorc gets bbos and other shooting pyschic shooting then it is redundant. Bm and ms is too expensive on a lord. I am not so sure if you can trade ccw and bolt pistol for the 2 rare artifact weapons.

I think you are better off with a dp of tz, wings & armor, bm. A be'lakor instead of a sorc. More reliable to get invis on mualer.

 Rasclomalum wrote:

 Frozen Ocean wrote:

sand.zzz wrote:
How do you have the black mace and the murder sword? you can only take 1 relic per army.

Only one of each. Seeing as the Murder Sword is not the Black Mace and the Black Mace is not the Murder Sword (and neither are the Burning Brand), the list is perfectly legal. However, it uses Mutilators, which is just a sin. Take Chaos Spawn! They're actually good now!

Well... Codex Chaos Space Marines says "A model can replace one weapon with one of the following" (my boldface) meaning that you can't have one character take two artifacts. So it's either the Black Mace or the Murder Sword on that lord, not both.

That's true, and I didn't notice that the one Lord had both. It's still not "1 relic per army", though. If you're going to run with two Lords like that, give the Warlord the Black Mace and the other Lord the Murder Sword. Let the non-Warlord hunt a Character while the Warlord wrecks everything else with the Mace.

Also, yeah. A winged Daemon Prince of Tzeentch is missing from this list. The Black Mace or Burning Brand are pretty good on those. Not for purposes of psychic power, though.

I'd say run the disc lords separately each leading 5-man squads of raptors with melta/flamers. Those combined with the maulerfiends means you should be in their face turn 2. You could start the cultists on the board as well, your opponent won't really be able to divert enough firepower to wipe them out with all the rest of your stuff eating their guns so fast, and that gives them more time to grab objectives.

Thank you so much everyone for your responses, very helpful. If I keep the build similar I'll move the murder sword to the other lord.


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Coming in at exactly 1500 points...

HQ
Lord (Warlord)
Mark of Tzeentch, Disc of Tzeentch, Sigil of Corruption, The Black Mace, Bolt Pistol
Sorcerer
Mark of Tzeentch, Disc of Tzeentch, Aura of Dark Glory, Force Weapon, Bolt Pistol, Level 3 Psyker.
Lord
Mark of Tzeentch, Disc of Tzeentch, Sigil of Corruption, Veterans of the Long War, The Murder Sword, Bolt Pistol
Troops
10x Cultists
10x Cultists
10x Cultists
Fast Attack
5x Raptors
5x Raptors
5x Raptors
Each squad with a flamer and melta gun
Heavy Support
Maulerfiend
Maulerfiend
Maulerfiend
Maulerfiend
All with Magma Cutters

Skip the melta gun on the raptors and give them another flmer instead bcause the lords are capable of destroying armor with pf. Give champs and lord melta bombs if you need more anti armor that your mualers cant handle