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What it says on the tin, Does anyone know of any advantages that fincast has over plastic? or is it all just crap?

Personally, I hate finecast as they are harder to paint (than plastic - not metal!) and also come out really weird and warped.

I like it, Most of my army is fincast. .

No advantages from what i can tell. A pain in the ass to put together though. Admittedly the warpsmith and sorcerer i got were pretty damn detailed, but you have to put them in the pose on the box, zero customisation. And the spindly bits like mechatendrils are really really fragile, you have to be very careful. Theres a reason old metals are fetching a hefty price on ebay

Oh and i also got a whirlwind hyperios from fw and it was made of some weird resin that was all warped and impossible to cut, dont think that was finecast though.

I'd like it if I could guarantee that any box I buy would be flawlessly cast. As is, you often get some defects or will have to do a return or exchange or two before you get a good box.

I love it. Having all aspect warriors meant that 90% of my army is fine cast. And i have had no issues except very limited posing. Sometimes i found myself accidentally nearly snipping bits off that weren't meant to because the sprews are a mess.

Overall I am happy with the 9 boxes i have so far. Very light, very detailed but make sure you have a good way to transport them. Or you will regret it.

I don't mind finecast, but only because it's quite lighter than pewter.

The new sprues that comes in finecast.. can't really complain about them.. it's the ones that's just been recasted... with the same metal mold that tends to be.. mishaped and filled with bubbles so far in my experience.

Oh this thread again (and I have only been on Dakka for less than a year).

Yeah I loved working on/with my Typhus and my big Mek w/ KFF. The material was great to work with.
I put resin/plastic/Finecast all in the same easiness and pleasure to work with.

What on earth is "fincast"? Is GW now making models out of something fish-based?

 Grimtuff wrote:
What on earth is "fincast"? Is GW now making models out of something fish-based?

A new formula. Part of their policy to make the world a worse place.

Dolphin and shark fin mixture cured with whale fats.

Goes for a fortune once molded.

Even if I could get perfect sculpts I live in a tropical climate so it is an entirely sub par material. On a hot day things will sag, they will droop and they will bend and short of storing them in a fridge there isn't really anything that can be done about it.

I strongly disliked working with metal figures.

Finecast has some issues but other than warping it's been fantastic. I've gotten maybe 9 FC models and all have had tiny issues that took all of no time to fix.

I mostly love it but will be happy when/if plastics become the norm.

Also, FINcast is a product of Japan.

No, I don't like it.

I have a real problem with finecast when it comes to gluing models together. It doesn't create the bonds you used to get with plastic glue and this is hell for some of the FC models. I think it comes down to a lack of surface tension that affects crazy glue.

My Nurgle DP gets re-glued after every game. His right arm comes off along with his head. Sometimes his torso falls apart.

My warpsmith model can't keep his servo arms in place.

I have both of these models pinned at this point and still the issues continue.

GW has this public health and safety / liability issue because of lead being toxic, so they had to change the metal models to resin (which, btw, is also sometimes toxic).
Their lawyers/accountants told them not to admit liability, so they spun some B.S. story about the "extra detail" possible in resin "Finecast".

Yes, it's rubbish, obviously.... but they kinda had to do it. They didn't have to be dicks about it though, but honestly, who's surprised?

The detail on resin is nice, but not so much as to make it better than plastic. GW's resin kits have a lot of flash, frequently require a bath before accepting glue/paint, and are susceptible to warping/melting. Better than metal though.

I despise finecast and I'll only use a bit or two made of it once in a blue moon because it's the only way to obtain that bit.

I'm sure as hell never using metal. I hate metal even more. Multi-part plastic kits forever, multi-part plastic kits for everything.

Never used resin before, but I just ordered some Volkite Calivers from FW to use as bolters for my tactical marines, so we'll see how that goes.

I like finecast. Most of the casts I got were flawless and the details are sharper than metal or plastic.

Though really anything that is finecast should be hybrid plastic/finecast kits.

 Grimtuff wrote:
Is GW now making models out of something fish-based?

That joke isn't funny....

I like plastic more, but it certainly is better than metal.

karlosovic wrote:
GW has this public health and safety / liability issue because of lead being toxic, so they had to change the metal models to resin (which, btw, is also sometimes toxic).
Their lawyers/accountants told them not to admit liability, so they spun some B.S. story about the "extra detail" possible in resin "Finecast".

Yes, it's rubbish, obviously.... but they kinda had to do it. They didn't have to be dicks about it though, but honestly, who's surprised?

There hadn't been anything resembling lead in a GW miniature for approaching 20 years before the switch. Additionally, resin used in miniatures is non-toxic once cured (there are potential issues with inhaling fine particulates, toxic or no, such as resin dust when sanding or filing, but the quantities your average hobbyist comes into contact with render this an outside chance at best.)

The switch to Finecast was motivated purely by one of cost, metal (specifically tin) was expensive, price was volatile (and only headed one way) and transport costs were higher. The "extra detail" spin was to try and make it look like they were being selfless and putting the hobbyist first.

I have no problem with the material other than the shoddy execution of its production and poor quality control, but I don't mind working in metal, plastic or "proper" resin either.

I've enjoyed finecast so far - it is extremely easy to work with (cuts like butter).

I haven't had any serious miscasts either and generally the mold lines have been much more forgiving then with plastic.

My only gripe is that it is a bit more flexible then I would like - this prevents breakage, but I would prefer a more solid product like the forgeworld resin.

Except for one, all finecast models I own or friends of me own have some kind of minor or major flaw, from small bubbles to being bent so bad that it is impossible to assemble. Nowadays I try to get the old metal models instead from ebay instead. Not raging or anything, but I'm just no longer willing to take the risk of single $20 models being in a bad shape.

Nope. I picked up a FC model once, and it was practically weightless. I guess it's good for transport, but I prefer my minis to have a bit of substance to them. Metal has a nice heft to it, but it's a pain to assemble and paint.

I prefer it to assembling metal+plastic models - or painting metal models in general.

I prefer painting finecast. Doesn't really need to be primed if painting with washes.

Thankfully the only problem i've had is a slightly bent sword, other than that is far so good. Worst was when i accidently snapped Vargard Obyron's warscythe when i was taking him off the sprue with a friend.

 cvtuttle wrote:
I prefer it to assembling metal+plastic models - or painting metal models in general.

Same I like it more for assembling and painting than metal for sure. I like the detail more than plastic but I like assembling plastic more.

The models themselves look good in my opinion, casting was well done. I simply hate working with it. It's a real pain in the arse as a fair number of models for my chosen armies (Chaos in 40k, Ogre Kingdoms in Fantasy) are finecast - all the characters in Ogres are finecast! - instead of plastic. I love working with plastic and the detail is great without needless add-ons and clutter.

I hate finecast with a passion- every finecast model I've ever bought was riddled with bubbles and badly warped, they break if you look at them funny and all that detail is rather meaningless when you have to destroy half of it in a desperate attempt to clean off all those godawful casting leftovers.

After buying the new Tessaract Vault plastic kit I've also concluded that that whole "greater detail" bull is nothing more than a great big lie- the kind of detail you could see on the Transcendent C'tan was at least as fine as anything I've ever seen on a finecast model and unlike failcast the plastic bits fit together perfectly.

I have never had a problem with a Finecast model that was not due to my own negligence or mistake (like having the wrong-sized bit on the dremel...).