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Hello everyone!

I find myself against a Tau list that always has 1-2 Riptides as well as a slew of crisis suits. I put this list together and wanted to see if it will make it a competitive game or not.

Farseer w/ runes of warding in with one of the Avenger squads

5 Dire Avengers in a Wave Serpent (TL scatter lasers and shuriken cannon) x 3

Wraithknight with 2 heavy wraith cannons.

That's 980 right there.

Any thoughts/comments/suggested edits welcome.

The question is, are you planning to ignore the riptides and go for the scenario's victory conditions, or try to take them down?

Wraithknights are fighting fire with fire-they are great counters to tides with the d-weapons and speed. Try to catch em in assault and smash em. Works great for suits too.

I am not sure why you are taking a farseer in a serpent. No casting powers except on the serpent unless you get out...and with only a 5 avenger bodyguard your seer is as good as dead. Unless your expecting psyker allies, why bother with runes of warding? What tau psychic powers are you denying? Most allied psykers will just be there to spam prescience anyways...
Psychic shriek is a pretty solid power against riptides and crisis suits, and you can build a strategy around it. A spiritseer can take the power and has the same statline as the seer(minus one Ld). You also gain the ability to throw out spirit marks, improving the performance of the knights.

Use the points saved by taking a spiritseer to get holo fields on your serpents. Yes, they can be negated by markerlights but once you blast the pathfinders or drones off the table should be easy work.

Try to play objectives. 2 riptides, 3 crisis suits and a buffmander is going to run ~700 points, leaving little room for markerlights or scoring units. Blast those, then just run.

 Dr. Serling wrote:
Wraithknights are fighting fire with fire-they are great counters to tides with the d-weapons and speed. Try to catch em in assault and smash em. Works great for suits too.

I am not sure why you are taking a farseer in a serpent. No casting powers except on the serpent unless you get out...and with only a 5 avenger bodyguard your seer is as good as dead. Unless your expecting psyker allies, why bother with runes of warding? What tau psychic powers are you denying? Most allied psykers will just be there to spam prescience anyways...
Psychic shriek is a pretty solid power against riptides and crisis suits, and you can build a strategy around it. A spiritseer can take the power and has the same statline as the seer(minus one Ld). You also gain the ability to throw out spirit marks, improving the performance of the knights.

Use the points saved by taking a spiritseer to get holo fields on your serpents. Yes, they can be negated by markerlights but once you blast the pathfinders or drones off the table should be easy work.

Try to play objectives. 2 riptides, 3 crisis suits and a buffmander is going to run ~700 points, leaving little room for markerlights or scoring units. Blast those, then just run.

I did add holo fields to the WS. Forgot to add that to the original post.

I did to think about taking a spirit seer instead. Hmm let me rework this list and post and update. Off the top of my head, I should have enough points to add scatter lasers to the wraith knight. Could make him a little more dangerous that way.

Retooled list:

Spirit seer

5 Dire Avengers w/WS (TL scatter laser, shuriken cannon, holo fields) x 2

6 Dire Avengers w/WS (TL scatter laser, shuriken cannon, holo fields). Spirit seer can ride with them.

Wraithknight with 2 scatter lasers and 2 heavy wraith cannons.

Have a few points to spare and not sure where to invest them.

My initial plan would be to have the Wraithknight focus on eliminating at least one of the riptides while the WS launch into his troop units.

well instead of the extra dire avenger, i would go for ghost walk matrix on the waveserpent.


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also scince wraithkngiht can only fire 2 weapons a turn, scatter lasers are pointless.