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I currrently own vanilla imperial fists and am getting bored of not getting to play with any decent toys. So looking to start a new army. To which I will also blog its progress.

I will NOT EVER touch Tau or Eldar.

And I'm leaning towards Nids given their going to be released soon. But I do want something tgat can be competitive but fun for both pkayers simultaneously

Chaos. alot of units are both competitive and fun at the same time while being fairly even.

Lol after having read a long list of complaints about the chaos codex that was funny to reaf

Three armies to consider,
Orks
Orkz
Da ORKS!!!! Waaaaaaaaaagh!!

I vote one of the Forge World variant lists, something a little interesting to go with your very vanilla and very common Space Marines. Armoured Battlegroup is pretty much pure toys and a great ally for Space Marines - it allows you to field a painted army without too many models, which is nice. Alternatively, the DKOK have great models and fit very well with Imperial Fists, both being Siege armies. The Assault Vanguard list from IA12 is more unique, with grenadier storm squads wielding Carapace and AP3 on everyone as standard and toys like the Hades, commands tanks and mass artillery to use.

Another interesting option is Eldar corsairs, which are rumored to be getting an updated army list int he next few days. I know you said you don't want to play Eldar, but they don't have access to Seer Councils, Wave Serpents or Wraithknights, which are pretty much the most complained about three Eldar units. They play like a blend of Dark Eldar and Eldar, extremely mobile and fragile with extreme firepower but almost no defence and a few neat tricks.

Well tyranids are weak armored and have a low range you should pick something with 4➕ armor save or under and is good all rounders tau have long range but not much short range ,close to none. Orks... Well they will be Orks. Eldar are a good mix but you don't want to collect them,I personaly think that you should collect Necrons cause of there monoliths and reanimation proto calls.


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Well tyranids are weak armored and have a low range you should pick something with 4➕ armor save or under and is good all rounders tau have long range but not much short range ,close to none. Orks... Well they will be Orks. Eldar are a good mix but you don't want to collect them,I personaly think that you should collect Necrons cause of there monoliths and reanimation proto calls.

Orks are definitely fun. More so if you really like to tinker, build and kustumize. You can loot anything from Chimeras to Carnifexes, you can scratch-build stuff and you don't EVER have to feel like you are responsible for what's happening on the battlefield because a propper ork army does something random 70% of the time, ensuring fun for all around.

My other suggestion would be a demon army dedicated to one of the gods. Khorne for quick and dirty paintjobs, nurgle for tons of detailwork. Tzench if you are colorblind. Slaanesh for boobies, which will be definitely accepted on any table ;-)

Yeah, on the fun scale, Orks win it. Real easy to build an army where no 2 models are the same.

Second would be Chaos. The thing about Chaos is some of the coolest looking models don't have a place in most armies. The rules are kind of frustrating at times.

Orks. Nothing is more fun than Orks.
Dark Eldar are also really fun to play and collect.

Air cav guard? Lots of Vendettas and Vet squads to keep model count down, very mobile and fun to play?

Yeah demons are a good option for there invul saves

Why no Tau? I always have a good time with my Tau and my opponent would too if he rolled better. There's tons you can do with them from all suit to massed infantry or a mobile company. You're only limited by your creativity.

Necrons aren't a bad option though

I think the Army you choose needs to be visually appealing to yourself first. If you don't like the look, you may not enjoy building or painting that force, and in the end, may never end up with a fully assembled force. Personally, there isn't an Army I hate, so I enjoy building a little bit of each.

A plus side with Orks is that you can utilize any leftover Space Marine bits you have laying around to customize them.

Is it just SM stuff that you can "orkify" or could you do tau/eldar too?

Brutal Viking wrote:
Is it just SM stuff that you can "orkify" or could you do tau/eldar too?

You can orkify anything you want.

Emperor protect, People have made looted Heldrakes!