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Hey everyone,
so I have a ton of XV8 suits but didn't have any broadsides so looked up a way to convert a few to broadsides (since that is all they used to be before was xv8's with a conversion kit by GW)
I just did a head swap and got a long rail rifle from paulson games. Also made one arm straight and bent on knee a bit to have a bit of a more action pose. The gun looks largr in the pictures than it does in real like which is odd.
I was going to have the gun straight but at this angle it looks like it is not in firing position hence the running/action pose (arm will have missile pods on it)

Let me know what you think! I will start painting it up shortly! (Using the quick and awesome method haha)

Nice.

Are you going to mount the secondary system on the other shoulder?

*falls out of the sky*
Did someone say Tau Conversion?


This is a good start, liking the choice of bits, but I'd like to make a few suggestions for you. To start with, I would say that the most important thing for this build is bulking the suit out a bit. The legs are usually the place where I would start for this build, since it has to carry around all that extra gun weight. You can apply fire warrior or stealth suit shoulder pads to the lower legs of the crisis and you'll get a heavier look. You could bulk out the shoulders using leg plates from space marine dreads, for that beefy shoulder look..

If you're going to do much tau modding, I would really suggest you grab some of these:
http://www.hlj.com/product/KBYP-127R/Sci
These things are excellent for covering your mistakes and bulking parts out where you need them.

I do like the gun position, kind of makes it look like artillery rather than a direct fire weapon.

.-. I personally don't like it, the head looks far too big for a Battlesuit, and coupled with the fact that Broadsides don't have jetpacks.. It just looks like a bit of a half-arsed or cheap way of getting more high strength guns into your army.

 BrotherOfBone wrote:
.-. I personally don't like it, the head looks far too big for a Battlesuit, and coupled with the fact that Broadsides don't have jetpacks.. It just looks like a bit of a half-arsed or cheap way of getting more high strength guns into your army.

Regarding half-arsed - its not done.
Regarding "cheap way of getting more ..." - sounds like a personal issue with someone you have run into before (maybe someone you know trying to be a power gamer, and trying to take short cuts to get wins?) - well, unless this person is that person, how about giving them the benefit of the doubt? To me, its resourceful.
Not trying to be confrontational here, but I find most people's resistance or negative reaction to something, is actually a reaction to someone from their past.

Back to the model;

I do have to say, that converting crisis suits into broadsides is a good idea, but bulking them up a bit is a decent idea.
I would also pick ones in more "static" poses - broadsides are not as agile as suits, and the post on this particular one does not conjure the image of a braodside.

davethepak wrote:Nice.

Are you going to mount the secondary system on the other shoulder?

Ya I was thinking of modelling a bunch of missile pods together.

bossfearless wrote:*falls out of the sky*

This is a good start, liking the choice of bits, but I'd like to make a few suggestions for you. To start with, I would say that the most important thing for this build is bulking the suit out a bit. The legs are usually the place where I would start for this build, since it has to carry around all that extra gun weight. You can apply fire warrior or stealth suit shoulder pads to the lower legs of the crisis and you'll get a heavier look. You could bulk out the shoulders using leg plates from space marine dreads, for that beefy shoulder look..

In the presence of a master right here!!
Ya next I wanted to get the legs a bit more beefy and make the shoulders a bit taller to make the head look like it is more in the body if that makes sense. I just don't have the best access to to many bits but I am trying to do what I can with what is available.

BrotherOfBone wrote:.-. I personally don't like it, the head looks far too big for a Battlesuit, and coupled with the fact that Broadsides don't have jetpacks.. It just looks like a bit of a half-arsed or cheap way of getting more high strength guns into your army.

Your right the head is bigger than normal...I wanted a different head though and quite like these ones.
I agree that they don't have jet packs in the current edition. BUT the old broadsides looked like this:


I wouldn't say it's half assed at all because it involves more time buying the bits and slapping greenstuff on then it does to go down to the store and buy a $60 broadside.
I play at my house with friends so I am not going to a tournament....would rather spend $5-8 bucks to convert a xv8 I have to broadside then $60 on a broadside.....so ya it is a cheap way of getting it in my army because GW stuff is already expensive haha

For reals, I never liked the old broadside models. But I would definitely agree that you should try to find some guys who you have posed in more static positions. This will reflect the lack of jet packs (which was always true for them) and also the heavy load that they are carrying.

If you need bits, shoot me a PM. I might be able to help you out.

I never liked the old Broadside models so I'm finding it hard to be positive about your conversion to be honest. I do like the bits you've use though, I think paulsongames have the best Crisis Suit conversion bits known to man and I use many throughout my Tau army.

I have just one question though are you going to mount the Broadside conversion on the correct base? You may have a problem at a Tournie since it's a conversion and I know that I would be a bit miffed if a conversion was on a smaller base.

Cheers
Pastel

PastelAvenger wrote:
I never liked the old Broadside models so I'm finding it hard to be positive about your conversion to be honest. I do like the bits you've use though, I think paulsongames have the best Crisis Suit conversion bits known to man and I use many throughout my Tau army.

I have just one question though are you going to mount the Broadside conversion on the correct base? You may have a problem at a Tournie since it's a conversion and I know that I would be a bit miffed if a conversion was on a smaller base.

Cheers
Pastel

This last part has been covered in many other threads, and even in the gw book. the 40mm base is the base the old broadsides came with.
and figures should be mounted on the bases they come with.

This is an old broadside - its just missing a couple of metal bits.
(the old broadside was the crisis kit, with four weapons, more sturdy feet, and covers for the jets - its the same model and base).

I am not saying this is subjectively "right" or "wrong" but this is GW's stance on it.

I have to agree that this isn't the best looking model for a broadside. The new ones by gw are awesome but I don't have the cash to buy 2 or 3 of them so this is my money saving solutions haha

As for the base I am just keeping it on this base, obviously there is some blurred lines with this but I'm not playing outside my home with this so no biggy.

Anyone have ideas on how to bulk up the feet somehow?

That's the same as the people who make cardboard Emperor Titans for the Strength D weapons. I'll buy some Battlesuits and some 3rd party stuff to turn it into a Broadside woah for the Railguns....

 BrotherOfBone wrote:
That's the same as the people who make cardboard Emperor Titans for the Strength D weapons. I'll buy some Battlesuits and some 3rd party stuff to turn it into a Broadside woah for the Railguns....

This is the reason I bring my old metal termies on the 25mm bases to tournaments so when I come across people like this I can replace my plastic ones just to piss them off.

But back to the original poster it looks good I would just put plastic card over the vents then add your SMS and call it good.

 BrotherOfBone wrote:
That's the same as the people who make cardboard Emperor Titans for the Strength D weapons. I'll buy some Battlesuits and some 3rd party stuff to turn it into a Broadside woah for the Railguns....

It's not really the same thing at all. The most obvious difference is that this is still an actual model and not a cardboard proxy. But the other issue is that if the OP were doing this to powergame, like you seem to be implying, then they wouldn't be sticking railguns on it. The high yield missile pod is the new "must take" option for broadsides, since the rail gun was changed into a "twin-linked heavy rail rifle" and got nerfed into the ground while they were at it; S8, 1 shot, and the broadside lost the A.S.S. upgrade so no moving and firing. Or you can take the HYMP, which is S7, but gives you four twin-linked shots. Even with the shorter range the HYMP is clearly the better option, because you can still kinda threaten weaker vehicles and flyers, which is all the weak-sauce rail rifle is good for anymore, and you have a lot more shots with re-rolls.

As for looks, personally I kinda like the old model. I don't like how it's just a lazy conversion kit, literally an XV8 with bits glued on (it still had the "jet pack", too, but there was a metal cover that went over the nozzles, I imagine a heat sink or something), but I did like the silhouette the old broadside had with the shoulder-mounted guns. It was recognizable and looked intimdating. But the new model...I kinda like the design of the armor, but it kinda lost that recognizable silhouette (just look at the box art, when the pics were first leaked I couldn't figure out what the feth I was actually looking at), and it just looks goofy as feth with either weapon option. I'm not a fan of the newly-designed rifle, for one. I never liked those conversions people did that made the suit look like it was "holding" the gun, but Matt Holland loved it apparently, because he not only did that with his personal models but now he's forced us all to build them that way. And the missilefists are just silly. The old model had that too I guess, with the SMS being mounted in the arms, so it's at least an upgrade compared to that, but it still doesn't look that good...maybe if the suit still had usable hands (albeit not deployed, like the crisis suit), I dunno. I'm also not much a fan of how the SMS or plasma rifles are both mounted on the one shoulder.

Honestly if I had nine of the old ones I don't think I would have bothered buying the new ones. Not sure what I'm going to do with all nine of mine yet, either...I thought about assembling them with the HYMP and then gluing the Paulson bits you see in the OP on the shoulders, in an attempt to try and combine the best of both models. Like this (not mine, I have no idea who did this actually but I saved it in my "inspiration folder"):



I figure the HYMP would pass for a SMS, they're all missiles after all. I bought the bits and everything but I'm not sure if I want to go through with it or not. Guess I might still be stuck in that "It's not tournament legal!" or "It's not official!" mindset...

As for the OP: eh...it works I guess. Like others have said I think the head is a touch too big, if I were you I would have tried to bits order the heads from the broadside kit. Even the one that looks like the current crisis suit head isn't quite as large, it's a minor thing but it's a noticeable improvement just slapping that head on an old crisis suit model because it doesn't stick up as much. I also think you need at least two guns to accurately represent twin-linking. Other than that it just looks like it needs more...maybe covering up the nozzles in the jet pack and bulking the legs out. But that's all stuff that's time-consuming and expensive, and if the idea is not spending $50 per model on the new suit then you're probably not interested in spending almost as much converting old crisis suits, either.

 BrotherOfBone wrote:
That's the same as the people who make cardboard Emperor Titans for the Strength D weapons. I'll buy some Battlesuits and some 3rd party stuff to turn it into a Broadside woah for the Railguns....

Totally 100% disagree.

The broadside (old one) is still a 100% viable model to play in the game.

The paulson guns are alternatives to the gw railguns you could buy separately, for the EXACT SAME PURPOSE - to upgrade a crisis kit to a Broadside.
(you can still get them on ebay). Many players actually like the paulson bits BETTER than the GW bits (they are better quality casts, than the finecast railguns....which I have several of).

I magnitized some of my marine bikers so they could have either melta guns or plasma guns.

When the grav guns came out, Instead of buying new tac marine sets (I don't need any more marines, I have about three companies - literally) I got some grav guns from bits vendors and magnetized them.

So, now my old marines can now use new weapons.

That and upgrading old boadsides is light years from playing with cardboard.