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This is a list I'm working on for friendly local games. Need advise on what to maybe switch out.
1500 pionts

HQ-
Commander Dante-225
Heavy -
Storm Raven TWL lascannon TWL multimelta - 200
Storm Raven TWL assault cannon TWL Mutli-Metla- 200
Troops-
Assault squad- 4 normal 1 melta sgt- power fist/ plasma pistol remove JP- with Razor Back TWL heavy Bolter - 188
Assault squad- 4 normal 1 melta sgt- power fist/ bolt pistol remove JP- with Razor Back TWL heavy Bolter - 188
Death company- 2x bolt pistol/chain sword 2x bolt pistol / power sword jump packs /w Sang priest with jump pack power armor lightning claw plasma pistol.- 275
Sanguinary Guard- 3x with sword 1x ax 1x power fist- 235

Total: 1496

Sanguinary Guard was originally was going to be an honor guard with jump packs with Dante but i decided to go with the Sang Guard for looks.
Strategy is start death company with priest in storm raven unless facing shoot army (ex: tau / Eldar) if facing those deploy normal use jump packs to move. no deep strike unless in storm raven. Use assault squads to get to and hold objectives using razor's for cover. Then either DOA Sang Guard or have them run screen for Dante. Get Death company around to charge or if in raven to use assault vehicle mode after raven deep strikes.

Also considered using terms instead of sang guard. But figured since using Dante would be better to use them.

I can sub just about anything for baal pred got 2, i have more rhinos and razors also drop pods and a land raider. whirlwind. have regular tac squads as well. lots of Death company.
Far as allies got i have Space wolves.

Just curious, but why would you have a Sang Priest with the DC? They already have Fearless, Furious Charge, and FNP. It would do much better with the Guard or Assault Marine Squad.

Take advantage of Dante's surgical strike rule and his Infernus pistol as well as his tactical thingy. Equip two or three of your Sanguinary guard with infernus pistols, and swords/axes (don't bother with masks, fists or banners) deepstrike within 3" of a tank, melt it, hit n run out of a melee if you get charged, then go move away, shoot something else, charge and destroy it.

Two Stormravens is a lot, but if they're the main punch of this list, give them both hurricane bolters and assault cannons. The one time you need them to shred firewarriors or force a ton of saves, they'll get the job done. And they can still knock out AV12 pretty reliably with multimeltas and missiles.

Don't bother with Death Company or a Sanguinary priest for them. They aren't worth it and a Sanguinary priest adds nothing to the unit anyway. He'll just get challenged out and owned for no benefit at all. 100 pts down the drain.

If your assaulties are riding in Razors, don't bother with a melta. Flamer is good. It's 5 points cheaper and makes taking charges (since you can't assault out of a vehicle) easier. Don't give your sarges power fists. They'll get krumped before they swing. If you want them to be AP2 and swing last, give him an axe. If you want the double strength for MCs and Vehicles (why even do this?) Give him melta bombs.

Speaking of razors. Upgrade those bad boys. Heavy bolters are great but we aren't grey knights. We don't have Str 6 Psybacks at our disposal. Go big or go home and buy Las Plas or TL'd Lascannons for your Razorbacks. The assault cannnon... Is... Good? Kind of. If you know what you're doing and you have long range high strength vehicle killing power somewhere else in your list, feel free to take it. It's much more versatile than the other two options. But the cannons are always a sure bet for what they're supposed to do. Also I think you may have the points cost on these wrong.

Consider taking a Baal Predator. Doesn't matter which turret, either is great, give it Heavy Bolter sponsons, outflank it, watch it wreak havoc.

Definitely take a Aegis line with Comms relay for your three vehicles if you choose to take the Baal. If you skip the Baal and one of the Ravens, feel free to skip the defense line too since your Sanguinary Guard already have the benefit of the Relay built into their rules.

That's all I got.

 bocatt wrote:

Two Stormravens is a lot, but if they're the main punch of this list, give them both hurricane bolters and assault cannons. The one time you need them to shred firewarriors or force a ton of saves, they'll get the job done. And they can still knock out AV12 pretty reliably with multimeltas and missiles.

Don't bother with Death Company or a Sanguinary priest for them. They aren't worth it and a Sanguinary priest adds nothing to the unit anyway. He'll just get challenged out and owned for no benefit at all. 100 pts down the drain.

If your assaulties are riding in Razors, don't bother with a melta. Flamer is good. It's 5 points cheaper and makes taking charges (since you can't assault out of a vehicle) easier. Don't give your sarges power fists. They'll get krumped before they swing. If you want them to be AP2 and swing last, give him an axe. If you want the double strength for MCs and Vehicles (why even do this?) Give him melta bombs.

Speaking of razors. Upgrade those bad boys. Heavy bolters are great but we aren't grey knights. We don't have Str 6 Psybacks at our disposal. Go big or go home and buy Las Plas or TL'd Lascannons for your Razorbacks. The assault cannnon... Is... Good? Kind of. If you know what you're doing and you have long range high strength vehicle killing power somewhere else in your list, feel free to take it. It's much more versatile than the other two options. But the cannons are always a sure bet for what they're supposed to do. Also I think you may have the points cost on these wrong.

I agree with everything said here... are the guard necessary? maybe another assault squad instead or something?

I was wondering what points i had wrong, copied everything from army builder.
I like the lwt las on 1 of the storms just in case i need to pop more then a few vehicles. maybe a fatty or 3. i was going to use the one storm to assault out of ( one with assault cannons) with the DC. Yes this was my main punch for anti vehicles.
i did switch the assaults with meltas to a flamer . Switched the sgts to power swords 1 with combat shield and melta bombs both.
I took out the sang priest added Lemartes. ( sang priest was a mistake on my part for that group. )
Razors I did not have enough points to upgrade I'm at 1496. ( plus i took them for the cheap points and have a gun instead of rhino.)
I took the death masks off the sang guard they did not have a banner, i used that model to make the one with power fists.
Since I have an actual honor guard ( i built the one right out of the codex looks spot on very proud of how those model turned out) that has the chapter banner if i wanted to use that.
I used sang guard because of Dante making them a troop option. If not i would just run Tycho with the honor guard.

I could drop Dante and the sang guard DC and take Mephisto and some thing else.

Mephisto build- Drop DC and sang guard add 2 Baal predators with heavy bolters on sides- then just pimp out the storm ravens with hurricane bolters and the both razors with TWL las cannons. and a whirlwind But that only gives me the 2 troop for capture and nothing in the storms for drop. I have always liked the face when opponent sees DC jumping out of the storm and assaulting.

Revised list.

HQ-
Commander Dante- 225

Heavy Support-
1- Storm Raven- TWL assault Cannon- TWL multi-Melta -200
2- Storm Raven- TWL Assault Cannon- TWL Multi-Melta Hurricane Bolters- 230
Fast Attack-
Baal Predator- Flame-storm cannon/ Heavy Bolters Search Light-146
Elites- Sanguinary Priest
1- Brother Corbulo-105
2- Sang Priest power armor - Jump pack- plasma pistol- lightning claws-105
3- Sang Priest power armor- bolt pistol- chain sword - 50
Troops-
1. 4x assault squad with jump packs bolt pistol -chain sword -148
1x melta gun- JP
1x Sgt. -JP -Power sword Combat shield - bolt pistol
2. 3x Assault squad- remove JP - Chain sword- Bolt pistol - 146
1x assault marine with flamer remove JP
1x Sgt- Remove JP - Combat shield/ power sword
1x Razor Back- TWL heavy Bolters search light
3. 3x Assault squad- remove JP - Chain sword- Bolt pistol - 145
1x assault marine with flamer remove JP
1x Sgt- Remove JP - Combat shield/ power sword
1x Razor Back- TWL heavy Bolters.
Total 1500 even.

Strategy-
Assault Squad #1 goes with Dante also use his death mask against 2nd biggest threat and #2 Sang priest (with JP). Objective pin point deep strike behind the largest threat pop it with plasma melta and Dante's infernus pistol. this will leave them out to dry if they deep on turn 1 but hoping not until turn 2.
Squad 2 and 3 have Corb and other priest with them get to an objective get out shoot anything with razors try and help Dante.
Try and flank with Baal predetor if board side is wrong reroll with Corb if not save reroll.
Turn 2 bring in Ravens if fail to get both reroll with hopefully saved Corb roll.
Use ravens to come in and fire missiles at any armor or fliers. Hit troops with assaults and Melta any armor/ major threat. If all else fails hopefully everything will be on board Turn 2 If not run razors to hide to keep from being boarded then wait till last turn to set up for a drop off on the objective on last turn.

Might lose warlord but will have 2 objectives. Should be able to get First blood. So it should be a tie by turn 4 if so use ravens to free one of their objective off so they no longer control it.

hmmm....