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I am about to start my new Aliens themed tyranid army which the new release this weekend, and have looked far and wide for some sort of space ship metal decking that would suit my themed army.

Im very pleased with what i found

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRfD8SeCdmwIs-dQJRYxIfIHwqKKTdhvcL-IRxiqpZVnl6Ltp5yQA

http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l634/alarmingrick/405983361.jpg

Theses are both from http://www.fenrisgames.com/home.html

I have two questions the first is theses bases are not the same as the normal gw ones you get in all their kits. Also they seem to come in two different type Chamfer and DS.
I have looked and cant find what the difference is between theses two or what bases you need to sit then on.

This leads into my second question that is if i do use these types of bases which although the same size as Gw ones will they allow them to be used in gw stores?

I don't think the staff will mind if you have third-party bases. Bases are such a minute expense and I doubt they'll be butt-hurt over losing 10 bucks for some bases (then again, it is GW ).

As long as the minis are GW, don't worry about it. I've used Scibor miniatures bases on models in GWs and the staff just said they looked great, didn't even approach the topic of it being a problem.

Cheers

Its the rounded edges of the bases that worried me cause they look alot different to the gw ones.

Did you use them sorts of bases?

I live about 18 hours from a GW store but I have a question about them that seems fitting to ask here. Are the staff really bad about proxy models and the like? I just find it hard to believe they can afford to go running off a single customer. Sorry if this is derailing it just seems to fit here.

Imnewherewheresthebathroom wrote:
I live about 18 hours from a GW store but I have a question about them that seems fitting to ask here. Are the staff really bad about proxy models and the like? I just find it hard to believe they can afford to go running off a single customer. Sorry if this is derailing it just seems to fit here.

It's going to vary wildly by the store. If you might go by a store, call first. Some don't care, some require a certain percentage, and others are very strict.

Even in the strictest stores I seriously doubt they would count third party bases under that, though. They don't want you avoiding buying product by using substitutions, but if you're using GWS models, you already "bought" the GWS bases so why care? They don't. They don't sell complete competing scenic bases for it to be an issue. Don't worry about it, but again, call the store if you're concerned.

:/ GW dont sell premade scenic bases in a variety of sizes or styles... so if they have a problems with it... please do ask them what they suggest you buy from them to achieve the exact same aesthetics on a base.

Hehe my local GW is a poxy little thing with only two 4by4 tables.. so Its not much of a loss to not play there
As it happens the 3rd party retailer they driven out of bussiness here had a far far far better gaming environment with loads of tables of all sorts of sizes, and loads of regular attendees. Its actually pretty sad that we finally got an official GW store and it doesnt do as much for the wargaming community as the old 3rd party did. (maybe I'm biased I once worked at this 3rd party stockist as a weekend job at school, hehe this was a good 10 years ago and I had left long before GW came to town)

Tell them you made them yourself, problem solved.

I've used plenty of resin bases in store, and if anything they've been ignored or complimented by GW staff. They don't care about bases.

What they don't like is you walking in there with a bunch of Lego figures saying they're Space Marines; if there's an official model for the unit you're playing with you have to use that model in order to play in store. I've gotten around that before saying I'm playtesting before buying and they don't stress too much, but that's not going to work for ever.

But bases? No, they don't care about bases at all. The only important things about bases are diameter and height. I put all my HQ models on 40mm bases to make them stand out in the army, and no-one even in tournaments has cared about that. It's smaller bases that are a problem, since it can be seen as modelling for advantage. If anything, larger bases are modelling for *disadvantage*.

Height is not a huge issue, because again you're mainly disadvantaging yourself, and certainly if you're using tall bases for awesome effect it's no problem. Height of flyers/skimmers can be problematic though. Again, I've used third party bases for these and simply ensured that the height is correct.

The radius edged bases (which are used in games like Warmachine), so long as they're the same diameter, are fine. I'd suggest aesthetically that you make sure the whole army either has bevelled or radius edges, because it can look pretty weird otherwise.

/endrant?

Not that it matters..but everytime i go into that store i feel like im being treated like a child. Reprimanded and what not. Im 34 years old. I make my money. Im an adult and a customer.
Id rather support my FLGS a million times over before i step foot in a gw.
Sorry i didnt answer your question at all...but it made immediately think of all the BS that company puts us through...

 PrehistoricUFO wrote:
I don't think the staff will mind if you have third-party bases. Bases are such a minute expense and I doubt they'll be butt-hurt over losing 10 bucks for some bases (then again, it is GW ).

As long as the minis are GW, don't worry about it. I've used Scibor miniatures bases on models in GWs and the staff just said they looked great, didn't even approach the topic of it being a problem.

Most GW models come with bases so they lose no money at all, really.

 bebopdrums2424 wrote:
Not that it matters..but everytime i go into that store i feel like im being treated like a child. Reprimanded and what not. Im 34 years old. I make my money. Im an adult and a customer.
Id rather support my FLGS a million times over before i step foot in a gw.
Sorry i didnt answer your question at all...but it made immediately think of all the BS that company puts us through...

Really? Huh.... I've always had a really positive experience with the GW staff here in Melbourne, at every store (God only knows how many they've got here now...) Just one particular store or multiple places?

I would agree with all of the above, the bases are a part of the kit you bought, and most people edit them unrecognisably anyway with basing and such, so buying new ones isn't causing them to lose any money.

The problem with stuff like this is the GW mentality of "We are the Hobby".
They don't want their average customer to know that there are other companies out there producing models or games to go with them.

Now while some red/black/blue shirts are cool about this and won't say anything unless you start telling people all about this other company making these cool models for half the price, and your army isn't obvious enough to get a lot of questions about where you got it.
Then there are the other ones that will 1)try to convince you the GW basing kits are superior then 2)tell you you're not allowed to play with non GW product in a GW store and that is the end of it. Pack up, get out, come back once they are on official GW bases.

 jonolikespie wrote:
The problem with stuff like this is the GW mentality of "We are the Hobby".
They don't want their average customer to know that there are other companies out there producing models or games to go with them.

Now while some red/black/blue shirts are cool about this and won't say anything unless you start telling people all about this other company making these cool models for half the price, and your army isn't obvious enough to get a lot of questions about where you got it.
Then there are the other ones that will 1)try to convince you the GW basing kits are superior then 2)tell you you're not allowed to play with non GW product in a GW store and that is the end of it. Pack up, get out, come back once they are on official GW bases.

If I was pulled up for having 3rd party bases, I would not be coming back.

majendie wrote:


If I was pulled up for having 3rd party bases, I would not be coming back.

Here here
It might just be me, but GW's policies that require the staff to be this way actually drive me away from them. I do everything I can to avoid purchasing in their store at all costs just to save myself the pushy sales pitch from the staff that theyre required to do.
ontop of which, I feel no need to pay the r.r.p for the products when they are available 20% cheaper on this here internet... that 20% difference seems to cover the cost of the painting tutorials and beginner games with the pushy GW staff, which I dont want or need in my life lol.

If I used the store for my hobby needs and the gaming space they provide.. then perhaps I would buy things from there now and then; seems fair when you use the freebie services they offer - the staff need the store to earn to keep their job and provide the services. - to that end they really shouldnt be driving away customers with stupid policies on things like bases it would be really bad business practise for them.

 prpetros wrote:
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRfD8SeCdmwIs-dQJRYxIfIHwqKKTdhvcL-IRxiqpZVnl6Ltp5yQA

http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l634/alarmingrick/405983361.jpg

Theses are both from http://www.fenrisgames.com/home.html

I have two questions the first is theses bases are not the same as the normal gw ones you get in all their kits. Also they seem to come in two different type Chamfer and DS.
I have looked and cant find what the difference is between theses two or what bases you need to sit then on.

I'll stay away from the can I use them in GW question as it can vary from store to store depending on staff attitudes, and I haven't been a regular visitor to a GW for about 5 years.

But if you need to match the GW size/ style of basing, then you will want the 25mm Chamfer bases for the 'normal' GW infantry bases, 40mm Chamfer for the GW 'Heavy Weapon team' bases and possibly 60mm bases for the larger creatures. You don't want the DS profile (the ones with the rounded egdes).

As to the question of what bases you need to sit them on, I am reading that as you think that Fenris sells 'tops' that you glue onto an existing base - if so, they don't. What you get from Fenris is a complete solid base with a moulded top surface that you glue your figures to (or you drill and pin them to the base).

These pics below show the difference between the Chamfer and DS bases (both are from Fenris):

Chamfer 25mm:



DS 30 mm:



The Fenris styles you probably want to look at are the Sulaco, Ark and Sulaco Hive bases

ARK

SULACO

HIVE

They make good product and I can heartily recommend the service.

Thank for all the feedback People.

richred_uk you hit the nail on the head with your post which im very grateful for I hadnt noticed the hive bases which will look great mixed in with the rest of my alien swarm.

Also i went in today and asked the manager at my local gw and he said its fine, he even went on to say hed seen them himself and said it was a great idea.

He also talked with me about my army as im abit noob when it comes to nids (Played too much space marine) and suggested using the tervigon as my Alien Queen Hq. Even the description sound right.

The Tervigon is a massive, living incubator, beneath whose lumpen carapace dozens upon dozens of Termagants slumber in a state of near-life.

So not all Gw staff are bad

to op regarding bases, try out scibor miniatures, they have the best bases by far of all the companies ive seen!