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So I need a bit of help on where to start on this. I like the look of the The Kingdom of Cygnar and the Retribution of Scyrah and their fluff but am lost on what to start off to buy to be some what potent. . . Thoughts on each and your prefrences?

 Lysenis wrote:
So I need a bit of help on where to start on this. I like the look of the The Kingdom of Cygnar and the Retribution of Scyrah and their fluff but am lost on what to start off to buy to be some what potent. . . Thoughts on each and your prefrences?

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Where to start? Easy. The answer to this question is always 'the battle box'. Buy this, play lots of games, expand slowly. If you can join an escalation league, then do so. Both factions are fine, ret gets a bit of a doing by some for not being overpowered - it's not true. Ret are fine, though they may lack the sheer diversity of options the 'big four' have due yo their relative youth as s playable faction, but they're solid, and catching up fast in terms of releases.

Don't worry about 'buying stuff that's potent'. Buy the starter, and learn the game first. That you can build into whatever you like.

Start small and work your way up for either faction.

What are you looking for from a faction?

Some fun 'jacks and overall capabilities. Cygnar has the diversity but the elves look so amazing!

Ah, this is a good question indeed since these two happen to be my primary faction to play other than Mercenaries and a Convergence battlebox.

Everyone else has said the right thing to start small with the battlebox and go from there. Personally I prefer Cygnar mainly due to its utilitarian style of play. In a way both factions play similar except Retribution has better stopping power with its melee oriented options in units and warjacks than Cygnar. Cygnar loves ranged combat but does okay in melee depending on the situation.

These are my opinions between the two factions pertaining to my experiences playing both factions over the years.

Both factions have good warjacks. Personally I prefer the reliability of Cygnar over Retribution.

Both factions have decent infantry choices but Retribution has better and harder hitting melee units. Yes I am talking about Dawnguard.

Both factions have solid warcaster choices although Cygnar is more balanced while Retribution requires more finesse and synergy.

Cygnar has better support solos to make a Cygnar more adaptable versus Retribution that has solos geared towards surgical maneuvers mainly for caster assassination.

Cygnar plays as like defensive but aggressive ranged faction versus Retribution plays as a more passive ranged or melee faction.

Cygnar has a slightly steeper learning curve to play versus Retribution which is more forgiving to newcomers to the game. Honestly it took me a while to become inherently dangerous with Cygnar when I played them starting off.

Retribution has regenerative shields on their warjacks while Cygnar has more warjack disrupting abilities.

Retribution has better caster-killing options than Cygnar while Cygnar has neat tricks with its electrical themed weapons.

Both factions look cool asthetically. Retributions are badass wood elves with guns and Cygnar are apparently the only good guys in the Iron Kingdoms that seem to be American-British esque.

Bottomline I think it depends what you're looking for in a faction, whichever fits your playing style and whatever your gut tells you.

Socsteep learning curve with a better toolbox or a more user friendly that you learn finesse and proper order activation. . . . Hmmmmm

 Lysenis wrote:
Socsteep learning curve with a better toolbox or a more user friendly that you learn finesse and proper order activation. . . . Hmmmmm

Timing is everything no matter which faction you play on warmachine. Some factions are more "forgiving" than others if the order activation isn't exactly timely.

Yeah, tough call. I wish you a lot of luck.

I don't see it as much of a tough call vs how much of a challenge I want. I will likely get a set of both starters and play around with them


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How is the pewter for PP? I have always hated GW's pewter. As bad or no?

If you got the cash get both boxes. If nothing else you will have models that a buddy can use.

I live in Portland so there are MANY players at the FLGS I hit up (either Red Castle games or Guardian Games) I just dont know how newbie firendly they are. . .

Oregon or Maine?

if it is Oregon I met some cool guys from there a few years ago. But can't remember the store they played at.

Oregon. Yea it depends on where it was. Guardian Games is one of the biggest FLGS's that I have seen. They recently upped their location and have over 10k sq' !