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Here's the 1500

Warboss w/ Mega Armor - 100
Big Mek w/KFF- 85

Lootas (10) - 150

MANZ (5) w/ 2 Burnas - 210
Deff Dread w/ 2 BS- 85
Boyz (19) w/ Nob w/PK- 149
Boyz (30) w/ Nob w/PK - 215
Grots (10) w/ Runtherd - 40

Looted Wagon w/ Boomgun and BS- 110
Deff Dread w/KB and BS- 95
Battle Wagon w/ Deff Rolla, BS, Armor Plates – 125

Battle Wagon w/ Deff Rolla, BS, Armor Plates – 125



And here is the 2000

Warboss w/ Mega Armor - 100
Big Mek w/KFF- 85

Nobz (6) w/ 4 Pks, Doc, Waaagh Banner, Big Choppa - 270
Lootas (15) - 240

MANZ (5) w/ 2 Burnas - 210
Deff Dread w/ 2 BS- 85
Boyz (19) w/ Nob w/PK- 149
Boyz (30) w/ Nob w/PK - 215
Grots (10) w/ Runtherd - 40

Looted Wagon w/ Boomgun and BS- 110
Deff Dread w/KB and BS- 95
Battle Wagon w/ Deff Rolla, BS, Armor Plates – 125

Battle Wagon w/ Deff Rolla, BS, Armor Plates – 125
Battle Wagon w/ Zzap gun, 3 Rokits - 150




Same strategy with both, Dreads 30 boyz with KFF walk up the middle. Wagons flank and hit where they need to, ramming everything in their way. Boomwagon takes shots at MEQs and hordes, while grots sit on objectives or protect boomwagon. Lootas take shots at light armor and flyers,

Rip it apart, I havent tried either. But their smaller cousin list of 1000 has been doing very well. Help is appreciated!

In my experience, orks don't scale well above 1000. You might want to split the lootas for more targeting options.

Also, the orks most competitive unit aside from lootas is a nob biker unit. You're going to want that.

My orks are on the shelf until the new codex.

Maybe replace the Deff dreads with more boyz. Although the Dread counts as a troop is it still a scoringunit? If not you will neded more scoring.

Barun Von Krump:

The dread that is a troop is a scoring unit, I forgot to mention that there is somewhat of a theme to my armor, and that is a Mek list with a lot of heavy army and walkers. Represented mostly by the MANZ and the Dreads.

3orangewhips:

I thought about splitting the lootas, but is that better than having 10 in a squad for leadership/casualty reasons?

I have never played with Nob Bikers, I'll proxy a game with them and see how they work. Is there a release date for the new codex or are we doomed until they get around to it?


Thanks for the help guys

Nob bikers have lost a lot of their strengths. No longer can you play wound allocation games so they're priamry means for longevity is gone; and the strength of blasts are the same throughout the entire marker so these large units get shwacked by demolisher fire and the like. Further cover saves have gone from 4+ to 5+. They get HoW but not a whole lot else from 6th Ed.

And people are scared of them.

Purely competitive?

No looted wagons, no deff dreads, no deff-rollas on wagons, no zzap gunz, no rokits.
Cybork for a megaboss.

Allies instead of lootas for ranged support. Ig or tau.

What works:
Shoota boyz in a wagon.
Meganobz with megaboss in a wagon. Regular nobz with painboy with megaboss in a wagon.
Biker nobz with a painboy with biker boss. Probably even 2 biker-nob squads.
Lobbas.

KFF mek is good and he's a must in a battlewagon rush.

If u're in for more fun than balls-out competitive - you can field a dread, some footsloggas, grots, lootas...anything. Just not too much or u'll end with a list that gets blown off the table by turn 3.

 koooaei wrote:
Purely competitive?

No looted wagons, no deff dreads, no deff-rollas on wagons, no zzap gunz, no rokits.
Cybork for a megaboss.

Allies instead of lootas for ranged support. Ig or tau.

What works:
Shoota boyz in a wagon.
Meganobz with megaboss in a wagon. Regular nobz with painboy with megaboss in a wagon.
Biker nobz with a painboy with biker boss. Probably even 2 biker-nob squads.
Lobbas.

KFF mek is good and he's a must in a battlewagon rush.

If u're in for more fun than balls-out competitive - you can field a dread, some footsloggas, grots, lootas...anything. Just not too much or u'll end with a list that gets blown off the table by turn 3.

Lootas are the best thing to happen to orks w/ 6th ed.

Again idk where you get this information from but deff rollas are amazing not taking them is a mistake unless you are making a shooty BW which no one does.

Biker nobz IMO are the biggest point sink someone can take, back before they got FAQ they where amazing but now they just die to bolter fire etc.

As for the OP list im not sure what MANZ is. If you are gonna take gretching grab an ADL w/ Quad for survivability

MegaNobz. And by Burnas he means Scorchas

I know dreads are not competitive. One squad of grots to sit on objectives is hardly something to keep out of a competitive list. Deff Rollas on wagons are the bees knees and wreck anything and everything.

The rest I can agree with, however my looted wagon has always payed for itself, often times by multiple times over.

I don't have any Biker nobz and I have never used them so I cant say anything about that,

Lobbas? I have never heard of them being even a little bit competitive, and I have used them many times to no avail.

Cybork for a Mega Armored Boss is an outstanding idea. I will definitely be doing that,


And lastly MANZ are (M)ega (A)rmored (N)ob(Z). And yes I meant Kombi-Skorchas.