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Hey guys,

I want to get my first FW model and I want to fit it into my Ultramarine Drop Pod army which has a lot of fliers.

Basically, everything starts in reserve and gets in the enemies face turn 1/2. So it either needs to be infantry, a dreadnought or a flier.

What experiences do you guys have with a) FW models and b) FW rules? Suggestions are appreciated, so just go nuts

How much experience do you have with resin?

I've dealt with Finecast a few times, I know how to manipulate some bending and how to fill a couple of bubbles, but I'm not an expert by any means.

Start with something like one of the Contemptor dreads. They go together fairly easily, look great, and can be ordinary Ironclads if you're playing strict.

By the way, Finecast is nothing like the resin Forgeworld uses. Finecast is a plastic/resin compound. Forgeworld uses much denser, less flexible resins.

Contemporary dreads sound interesting. Is there a optimum short range load out for them?


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*contemptor. Autocorrect tomfoolery.

Kheres assault cannons are 24 inch and very powerful.

Better than a couple of power fists?

I'd go this:

Mortis contemptor dreadnought

2x Kheres assault cannon

Cyclone missile launcher

Each Kheres puts out 6 rending shots. So that's a total of 12 shots, plus your missiles. The only downside to the Kheres is its short range, but it seems that's what your after so sweet!


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The latest rules for the mortis contemtor are in imperial armour two second edition btw.

Sounds pretty powerful!

What sort of point value?


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Actually, I found a pdf on the foreword website, would that be valid?

I think it's Around 200 plus three melta bombs. Could be slightly off though, I don't have the ia2 yet.


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But yeah you're right, those cannons are beasts. I'm getting some myself!

Another vote for a contemptor dread. They look really cool and due to their size I'm guessing they will be a LOT easier to deal with than any of the larger FW stuff.

So far my only experience with FW resin is a DE Tantalus. That took a razor saw to cut off the larger than 1" by 1" chunks of "flash"... Not fun. But looks awesome.

Jamo wrote:
I'd go this:

Mortis contemptor dreadnought

2x Kheres assault cannon

Cyclone missile launcher

Each Kheres puts out 6 rending shots. So that's a total of 12 shots, plus your missiles. The only downside to the Kheres is its short range, but it seems that's what your after so sweet!


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The latest rules for the mortis contemtor are in imperial armour two second edition btw.

This, but if you've got the cash, slap him in a Lucius Pattern Drop Pod

The Dread is expensive points wise

Jamo wrote:
I think it's Around 200 plus three melta bombs. Could be slightly off though, I don't have the ia2 yet.

It breaks down as follows using the Apocalypse 2nd ed IA book:

For the basic Dread it costs 1 Annihilator Pred (all lascannons) +3 Melta Bombs

The 2x Kheres upgrade will add +5 Melta Bombs

The CML upgrade will add +7 Melta Bombs

Total = 200 +3 Melta Bombs and it takes a Heavy Support Slot

The Lucius pod is worth a Techmarine +3 Melta Bombs, and it eats up a Fast Attack slot

Pros:

Great Dakka, as others have stated above its 12x Str 6 rending shots from the Cannons and 2x Str 8 missiles. This means you've got a shot at glancing a LR to death with good rolls

On any round he dosn't move, he gets SKYFIRE and INTERCEPTOR, so by by fliers

With the rules for the Lucius Pod, he does not have to disembark. So let him sit in there and fire away, and your opponent will have to blow the pod to shoot him. This will give your Dread 3 AR 12 ablative HPs

Front AR is the same as a Predator (no Krak grenade death) and it has a 5++ invulnerable save to shooting, 6++ in close combat

Cons

This set up is not cheap. It will run you a bunch of real wold dollars to buy the models and get them shipped to you

Its resin, so can be difficult to work with as others have noted above, just go slow and steady, and wear a mask if you're doing any sanding

Hidden cost: Keeping up to date on the FW rules. The IA books are expensive, and with a constant flow of books and updates, you're garunteed to be buying at least one a year to keep up to date with your FW models.

Also, depending on your meta and FLGS, make sure you're opponents won't refuse to play against FW. It's supposed to be legal in all 40k, but no model is fun if you can't field it.



Overall It's a great set up and works wonders on the board, but just make sure you're ready to invest in it before you lay out the cash and time to bring it to life.

I've used mine repeatedly to devastating effect, and I love it

Hope that Helps

All Contemptors now take an Elite Slot, not a Heavy Support slot. Including Mortis Patterns.

It can only be dropped in a pod by a Lucius Pattern Drop Pod, since they are 'to big' for normal Drop Pods. As such, that's another chunk of change you will have to drop on a much older mold/cast, and may have to do more clean up work. (A Lucius is also heavier than a normal Drop Pod, if that matters.)

The new Imperial Armour Vol 2 made a few changes to Contemptor Mortis dreads. They're elites, which I think is good, but now they went up 4 melta bombs base, which of course is less great.

AmCjkh wrote:
The new Imperial Armour Vol 2 made a few changes to Contemptor Mortis dreads. They're elites, which I think is good, but now they went up 4 melta bombs base, which of course is less great.

Crap, I swear, that's the biggest problem with the FW models: The constant war to keep up with the updates

I just bought the updated Apoc book from them in October, now I've got to get IA2 (2nd ed), but already have the original IA2.

When they update older models that already have books out they should really just FAQ them online for those of us without tons of spare cash.

Ugh, looks like FW is getting another chunk of my wallet.

Any other major changes in IA2?

Jamo wrote:
Kheres assault cannons are 24 inch and very powerful.

This. A stationary contemptor dreadnought gains interceptor and skyfire. The Kheres Assault Cannons are each 6 shots at Strength 6. And the contemptor is BS5, I think. Not too shabby.

You can toss on the 2-shot missile launcher for more shots, but those are pretty pricey.

Another recommendation would be the MKII or MKIII armors. Even if you don't play with Horus Heresy rules, they still make kick as Space Marine models.

Save yourself some points and get a Mortis Contemptor, lacks the cyclone(I think) and maybe still has a BS of 4 but ends up being cheaper pointswise for almost the same abilities and if you need it for AA then it is there.


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Save yourself some points and get a Mortis Contemptor, lacks the cyclone(I think) and maybe still has a BS of 4 but ends up being cheaper pointswise for almost the same abilities and if you need it for AA then it is there.