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Hello! I just got my Badger Patriot in the mail. However, now I need to find a good compressor that will work fine with it. I do not think a can adjust the psi on my brush itself? So do I need a compressor that can do that?
If someone could help me find the right compressor, that would be great.
p.s. I live in the US.
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NO PSI has to be adjusted on a compressor around 60-80 psi should be more than enough. Most of the time you will be spraying around 30-40 psi. Make sure your compressor has a air regulator on it.
Eganize wrote: Hello! I just got my Badger Patriot in the mail. However, now I need to find a good compressor that will work fine with it. I do not think a can adjust the psi on my brush itself? So do I need a compressor that can do that?
If someone could help me find the right compressor, that would be great.
p.s. I live in the US.
A small compressor with at least a 1 gal. tank would work fine. You can get a shop compressor from Home Depot that will probably set you back around $100; they work fine but tend to be loud, which depending on your living situation could cause a problem. I use a TC910 which is a decent mid-range compressor. It has a small footprint and is pretty quiet; it can run while I am watching TV without being distracting. There are cheaper options out there (search of "airbrush compressors" on Amazon, there are tons out there) with varying options available. Most purpose-made airbrush compressors come with a regulator/moisture trap but if you purchase one that doesn't come with one, make sure you get one. The regulator takes the tank pressure (with the TC910 it is about 60 psi) and reduces it down to an appropriate working pressure (generally between 12 and 20 psi for standard work and around 25 psi for varnishing and priming) and the moisture trap keeps any moisture that accumulates in the tank from entering the air flow to the brush, which could cause a host of problems.
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Sammoth wrote: NO PSI has to be adjusted on a compressor around 60-80 psi should be more than enough. Most of the time you will be spraying around 30-40 psi. Make sure your compressor has a air regulator on it.
?!? The most I spray at is 20-25psi. and for detail I'm around 15psi.
I have an $80 compressor from Harbor Freight and it works just fine. It's not all that noisy and hasn't gotten too hot on me. It even came with a pressure regulator.
If you're starting out I'd say go in-expensive first. I.e. Harbor Frieght like darefsky. It's a 1/5 or 1/6 hp compressor, fairly quiet. If you're lucky it may come with a moisture trap as well as a pressure regulator and gauge, an extra moisture trap in line helps as well.
WargamersConsortum has a really good video on airbrushing info/intro and the seminar was done by the owner of Badger I think. Gives you tips and insight to cleaning, pressures, et al. It's all relative and trial and error to extent.
I prime @ 40-50 psi, base around 20, and pre-shade detail in the 12-15 psi. Works for me but you may work at a quicker or slower pace and your pressure kind of dictates your speed of work.
Sammoth wrote: NO PSI has to be adjusted on a compressor around 60-80 psi should be more than enough. Most of the time you will be spraying around 30-40 psi. Make sure your compressor has a air regulator on it.
?!? The most I spray at is 20-25psi. and for detail I'm around 15psi.
I have an $80 compressor from Harbor Freight and it works just fine. It's not all that noisy and hasn't gotten too hot on me. It even came with a pressure regulator.
People spray at different PSI's depending on the paint and airbrush. I Spray Valejo Model Color not AIR and it's a bit thicker on the pigment.
BTW why are you telling me what compressor you have ? Shouldn't that be directed at the OP ?
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Sammoth wrote: People spray at different PSI's depending on the paint and airbrush. I Spray Valejo Model Color not AIR and it's a bit thicker on the pigment.
BTW why are you telling me what compressor you have ? Shouldn't that be directed at the OP ?
I use Model Color, Game Color, Citadel, and P3 with a gravity fed brush with never going over 20 psi... 30 to 40 psi is too much when it comes to miniature, unless you are using a siphon feed brush, in which case you should buy a gravity fed because they are much better for this application.
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The OP uses a Badger Patriot, which is indeed a gravity feed airbrush, so telling him that he should be operating it with pressures between 30 and 40 pounds is incorrect.
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So, for a gravity feed, what would be the correct psi??? or should I ask what do most people usually use?? I'm willing to hear everyones opinion. still contemplating on what compressor to get there so many choices...
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Eganize wrote: So, for a gravity feed, what would be the correct psi??? or should I ask what do most people usually use?? I'm willing to hear everyones opinion. still contemplating on what compressor to get there so many choices...
It depends on what airbrush your using, what type of paint you are using, how much you thin your paint etc.
The best advice I can give you is play with it. Start at 25psi to prime and see if that works. It might have to go up or down a bit.
Same thing for detail, start at 15psi and go from there.
Just play and practice and you will figure out what works for you.
The topic is air compressors and you were the first person to bring up working pressures, which is still part of the topic. You told the OP that he will be normally working at 30 to 40 psi, and again, with a gravity fed airbrush, that is incorrect. The OP is using a Badger Patriot, which is a gravity fed brush, so any advice concerning the use of a siphon fed brush isn't of much help. There is nothing "elitist" about the notion of gravity fed airbrushed being the better choice when it comes to the fine detail work involved in painting miniatures; you will find that virtually every person here agrees with that sentiment.
Eganize wrote: So, for a gravity feed, what would be the correct psi??? or should I ask what do most people usually use?? I'm willing to hear everyones opinion. still contemplating on what compressor to get there so many choices...
Typically around 15 to 20 psi for general work like basecoating, preshading, etc. I find that I do most of my work around 18 psi; it offers good control and nice paint flow. For priming and varnishing, I use 25 to 30 psi most often. For fine detail work, I will drop the pressure down to around 12 psi or lower. Going that low requires pretty thin paint and good brush control.
Your paint selection has little to do with what pressure you work with; most paint (especially any type of modeling paint) can be thinned down easily to work at these pressures.
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Alright chaps -- and ladies too of course -- let's simmer down please.
There's no need to be snarky or rude to each, especially over something like this.
Let's give each other the benefit of the doubt please.
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still contemplating on what compressor to get there so many choices...
