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2014/02/01 02:51:52
Subject: OFFICIAL Creature Caster launching on Kickstarter
SlaveToDorkness wrote: So.... you just get on the Kickstarter page and search "Creature Caster" after midnight PST?
Nah, leave it til about 12.30 if you could.
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Hello Dakkaites. We have a very important update: We have decided to extend our pre-campaign.
We realize this is short notice and apologize for any lost sleep. We are doing this to offer an entire new set of upgraded rewards to our backers. We did not originally expect the demand to be as huge as it has become, and we are now preparing to make this campaign bigger than ever, with the best rewards possible.
We are taking every precaution at the beginning of the campaign to ensure that everything goes smoothly in the end. We know that you will be happy that we decided to make this small change, because it will ultimately lead to huge rewards for our backers. Trust me, you are going to really love these new rewards. We thank you for your continued support.
Post any questions, comments or suggestions here and I will respond as soon and as often as possible.
For those interested here on Dakka, I will be back soon in order to address concerns about Canadian shipping (and the nightmare it can sometimes be unless you have American drop shipping) I will also be having some discussions with you about some new Kickstarter exclusives we wish to offer in our new huge'er campaign. Thanks again.
Jeremy
I have gotten a few requests for a signature banner that you can use to help us promote our campaign. Thank you very much for your support.
2014/02/01 04:13:49
Subject: Re:OFFICIAL Creature Caster launching on Kickstarter
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Fafnir wrote: Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that.
2014/02/01 04:16:12
Subject: OFFICIAL Creature Caster launching on Kickstarter
It really is way bigger than we originally imagined. That means we can now offer more and better exclusive rewards, instead of our smaller line we had available. We would never have known, but when we had a thousand people join our Facebook in a few days.... we knew we had the chance to offer even more.
Dont be sad. In the end, we are all going to be happy that we took this time to reposition, especially the fans that were with us from the beginning. Thank you for your support.
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I have gotten a few requests for a signature banner that you can use to help us promote our campaign. Thank you very much for your support.
2014/02/01 04:17:13
Subject: Re:OFFICIAL Creature Caster launching on Kickstarter
Any idea when you will be launching it? Tentative date?
If you're going to do extra head/weapons/etc is there any chance of getting a non-saddled head for the dragons? If it at all possible that is.
Or maybe a fire breathing head.
H.B.M.C. wrote: I really do think that all Kickstarters should be banned from Dakka. It's clear that, from a psychological perspective, we just can't handle them. I mean, this one hasn't started and we're already complaining about the start time.
Azazelx wrote: le sigh. Canadian shipping and Early Birds.
You'd better pre-withdraw your pledge on this one Az. Save yourself the bellyache.
You mean this is already the most shameful thread ever seen on Dakka?
Lets just hope that pre-KS delays will mean that there is no during-KS delays. Get all the delays over and done with before you even start.
That is exactly right Could not have said it better myself, and I wish other campaigns took this kind of care. We are making triple sure that everything will not only deliver smoothly, but will also be a party when you open your package.
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I have gotten a few requests for a signature banner that you can use to help us promote our campaign. Thank you very much for your support.
2014/02/01 04:25:46
Subject: OFFICIAL Creature Caster launching on Kickstarter
Uh, Jeremy... Kickstarter-exclusives are often a bad thing. Maybe a small figure or two can be okay, but lots of KS-exclusives and parts aren't a good thing.
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The Kickstarter exclusives are going to offer something really special to our backers, and to us that is a good thing. I am of course open to suggestions to the contrary however, and appreciate your feedback.
I have gotten a few requests for a signature banner that you can use to help us promote our campaign. Thank you very much for your support.
2014/02/01 04:51:15
Subject: Re:OFFICIAL Creature Caster launching on Kickstarter
I know that I would like to give you money, but I will not have it in time for KS (most likely)
Thus if it is only KS exclusive I may not end up giving you money, but then again if it is small things and not lots of stuff that is exclusive it wouldn't sway me as much.
Joe Smash.
2014/02/01 05:02:30
Subject: OFFICIAL Creature Caster launching on Kickstarter
I certainly do not intent to upset anyone who is not part of the Kickstarter by denying them of exclusive parts. It is just a small achievable goal that we can use to add something special to our backers.
I have gotten a few requests for a signature banner that you can use to help us promote our campaign. Thank you very much for your support.
2014/02/01 05:32:05
Subject: OFFICIAL Creature Caster launching on Kickstarter
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No madam, 40,000 is the year that this game is set in. Not how much it costs. Though you may have a point. - GW Fulchester The Gatling Guns have flamethrowers on them because this is 40k - DOW III
2014/02/01 05:42:59
Subject: OFFICIAL Creature Caster launching on Kickstarter
Go to bed; the campaign is being expanded and reorganized in light of unexpected interest, which is a good thing. But it also means the campaign is definitely not beginning tonight.
Some very provocative options have been advanced, we'll see how far down this rabbit hole goes...
No madam, 40,000 is the year that this game is set in. Not how much it costs. Though you may have a point. - GW Fulchester The Gatling Guns have flamethrowers on them because this is 40k - DOW III
2014/02/01 05:51:02
Subject: Re:OFFICIAL Creature Caster launching on Kickstarter
CreatureCaster wrote: The Kickstarter exclusives are going to offer something really special to our backers, and to us that is a good thing. I am of course open to suggestions to the contrary however, and appreciate your feedback.
I absolutely understand the wish to offer backers something special, and that's where one or two not-huge exclusive items/figures/things can be useful - the flip side is that usually KS backers get a good price on the items, and the items first, as well as the warm fuzzies of knowing that they helped to make a project a reality. The drawbacks to too many exclusives is that you can create resentment amongst both backers and post-KS customers since they weren't able to afford everything they wanted at the time, and then can never get the <whatever> again, short of eBay, "convention exclusives" and other things like that which again, tend to breed resentment - particularly if you're looking to create an ongoing brand/retail presence with the items going forward.
I think with the flexibility of your resin business, you have a lot of scope to offer KS exclusives that are a little more "outside the box" than heads, hands, weapons, etc that others will then never be able to get. Exclusive bases or scenic base options or diorama bases - you might remember this from the GWLotR line - something way cool, bloody rare, but doesn't "change" the figures that people have bought in a way that can never be reproduced again like an exclusive head would.
You could also do medals, "challenge" or commemorative KS coins (in resin) - out-of-scale objects, micro-busts, etc.
Basically, I think extra/alternate heads, hands, claws, weapons, etc are a great idea, but they shouldn't be the KS-Exclusive items - they should be an ongoing aspect and asset as part of the kit options. There's a whole lot of stuff that's a little more outside the box that is perfect for the KS exclusive slot(s).
CreatureCaster wrote: The Kickstarter exclusives are going to offer something really special to our backers, and to us that is a good thing. I am of course open to suggestions to the contrary however, and appreciate your feedback.
I absolutely understand the wish to offer backers something special, and that's where one or two not-huge exclusive items/figures/things can be useful - the flip side is that usually KS backers get a good price on the items, and the items first, as well as the warm fuzzies of knowing that they helped to make a project a reality. The drawbacks to too many exclusives is that you can create resentment amongst both backers and post-KS customers since they weren't able to afford everything they wanted at the time, and then can never get the <whatever> again, short of eBay, "convention exclusives" and other things like that which again, tend to breed resentment - particularly if you're looking to create an ongoing brand/retail presence with the items going forward.
I think with the flexibility of your resin business, you have a lot of scope to offer KS exclusives that are a little more "outside the box" than heads, hands, weapons, etc that others will then never be able to get. Exclusive bases or scenic base options or diorama bases - you might remember this from the GWLotR line - something way cool, bloody rare, but doesn't "change" the figures that people have bought in a way that can never be reproduced again like an exclusive head would.
You could also do medals, "challenge" or commemorative KS coins (in resin) - out-of-scale objects, micro-busts, etc.
Basically, I think extra/alternate heads, hands, claws, weapons, etc are a great idea, but they shouldn't be the KS-Exclusive items - they should be an ongoing aspect and asset as part of the kit options. There's a whole lot of stuff that's a little more outside the box that is perfect for the KS exclusive slot(s).
QFT.
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2014/02/01 06:28:59
Subject: OFFICIAL Creature Caster launching on Kickstarter
OH WOW! I've got that. I'd completely forgotten about it.
Wish I knew where mine was.
Az makes a good point. You'd be giving us too much of a good thing. It wouldn't do you any favours down the line. Maybe a better option would be to have all the extra heads/weapons/etc as cheapy add-on packs. That way the KS backers get cheap stuff earlier, but non-KS buyers can still get them later on.
Seriously though mate, don't worry about stretch goals and add-ons and all that. It will potentially just add too much to your workload. Just focus on getting the models themselves as perfect as you can and on schedule. Let your KS be one of those rare few that is on time. Freebies and add-ons are all very well and good but they are no substitute for a quality on time product.
Very disappointed to see that the KS is happening tonight. Made quite a few arrangements so that I would be able to get there at the start. Supper bigger and better things are always... bigger and better
2014/02/01 07:52:03
Subject: OFFICIAL Creature Caster launching on Kickstarter
Have to agree with Az regarding the exclusive stuff; maybe you could integrate the two ideas somehow. Make the "conversion bitz" a part of your normal line after the KS, sell them as themed packs separate from the actual creatures, but specifically for the campaign, include the parts with the creatures they're designed for as freebies that unlock as stretch goals?
That way you have some wee "minor" stretch unlocks you can pepper in between bigger goals to add new creatures to the line. So if you pledged for the bird demon, and a certain stretch goal was reached, you get Upgrade Pack 1 for the bird demon for free.
The other stuff sounds interesting as well, particularly the prospect of seeing stuff in the campaign in a more modest scale; the existing critters are fantastic centerpieces, but most of my games are at smaller point values, or using skirmish/RPG hybrid rules, and I'd love to have some models with your aesthetics and level of detail in a scale that would let me use them on a regular basis.
I'll offer one word of caution though, well, two words actually; Raging Heroes. Don't get too caught up in growing the campaign endlessly, or you'll dig yourself into a hole and waste people's goodwill and enthusiasm, which considering the quality on show would be a real shame.
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2014/02/01 08:14:09
Subject: Re:OFFICIAL Creature Caster launching on Kickstarter
Ignatius-Grulgor wrote: PST is GMT -8 If I'm remembering correctly so that would make it 08:00 on Feb 1st, so much for that saturday lie in.
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Urgh woke up early on a saturday to see that video, at least you're taking into account that demand could be higher than expected rather than risking disappointment. Whilst I would also love an option or two I'd agree on KS exclusives being a divisive topic. I do however love a mascot figure, if you're also thinking of doing something smaller scale later on anyway. Maybe an alternate pose to one of the troopers you were considering or an alternate unit commander?
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