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The treewoman must not kneel down again, that dynamic pose is so much better, I think

Hehe, typical Dakka. We are conceptualizing and designing the model before I have even unveiled it.

I also am leaning towards a more imposing and looming pose.

... and thanks for watching the show, those who could make it. For those who didn't, it is here on Youtube for all the ages: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8x1a2s1jnnE

 CreatureCaster wrote:
Hehe, typical Dakka.

Ah!

There is no such thing!

There's no hive mind here - just one of the largest collections of individuals on the internet interested in wargaming and miniatures!

 CreatureCaster wrote:
I also am leaning towards a more imposing and looming pose.

... and thanks for watching the show, those who could make it. For those who didn't, it is here on Youtube for all the ages: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8x1a2s1jnnE

Awesome about the pose!!

I couldn't watch the show live due to work, will check it out shortly

I really hope you do release that pose... I actually have a use for a giant, looming tree woman now, and it looks like I will have some cash to throw at it! Please take my monies!


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Oh, and I can't help but point out that yes, AD&D did have a line of miniatures that were designed to rank up on bases. Ral Partha made them for the Battlesystem and Battlesystem: Skirmishes rules.

So, you know, there is nothing new under the sun I know, I was there for it.

ALL OF IT.

Sad I couldn't make the show. Going to watch the video now.

I legit nearly pissed myself laughing at the "treequal rights" gag, GG.

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 CreatureCaster wrote:
?.. copy GW ... please do not share it with me.

IMHO:
Although you may claim to be ponds away - and hope GW agrees - your Demons are already very obviously from their universe (and removing the Nurgle one was smart). As is Avatars of War and others, you are intentionally and not so subtle drawing buyers from the GW crowd (i.e. us). Making smallish alterations (be it multiple or hidden boobs, expressions, tounges or horns) does not make your sculpts any more GW. And, as nothing in new under the sun, you can probably claim to have found inspiration from the same sources as GW has ripped from.

The early sketches of the new Plague Demon do however show a completely new take on a Nurgle Demon (i.e. not an immobile fat one). Bravo.

In order to not face legal trouble, making a few non-GW substitutes (golems, elementals, monsters, other demons, etc.) might be a good idea.

There's a good point here. The addition of a Whip to the Rage Demon would make it more Balrog (traditional, pre-WETA) than Bloodthirster (based on... the Balrog!) in my eyes. Honestly, though, I'd be scared of breakage from a long, lashing resin whip, but I'd be mighty fine with a coiled one. Then again, I've got a spare Hot Toys 1:6 Predator coiled whip sitting around somewhere, so maybe it will find a home.

I know warhammer is still probably the biggest game out there but god I wish people would stop asking for stuff to be more warhammer-y. There are already tons of that stuff on the market and frankly anyone that thinks a model from here can't be a bloodthirster because it doesn't have a whip has no imagination.

 azreal13 wrote:
Zwei, back in your box.

Jeremy, allow me to introduce you to Zwei, a fellow who tirelessly courts controversy, apparently to try and generate clicks for his blog.

He is best handled by ignoring, or highlighting the massive holes of logic in his arguments, although the latter may result in your having to witness an inordinate amount of wriggling, contortion and goal post moving, so if you don't have the stomach, just let him shout at a wall til he gets bored.

Something that we can agree on, at least! Though he tends to follow the internet argument rules of "never apologise, never admit when you're wrong, never compromise". I've got him on ignore, myself, so I only see his posts now when he stirs up enough trouble to have people I'm happy to read the posts of start quoting him.

For me? I don't play WHFB any more, and haven't for years now. I'm planning to use these models for Kings of War as well as 40k for some. This makes me happy that they use pretty industry-standard-sized bases (though I could go bigger as well). I'll happily use them alongside my figures and models from Citadel, Mantic, Rackham, Heartbreaker, Forge World, Reaper, Kromlech, Maxmini, Wizards of the Coast, Minifigs, McFarlane Toys, Avatars of War, Raging Heroes, Shield Wolf, Wargames Foundry, Hasslefree, Red Box, Heresy, Warlord, Anvil, Fantasy Flight, DUST, CMON, McVey, Mierce, Perry, Wargames Factory, Dreamforge Games, Victoria Miniatures, Ral Partha, Grenadier, Copplestone Castings, Artizan, Renegade.... and on and on.

All of whom most likely rip off GW at every opportunity while having never influenced anyone who has ever worked at GW. I wonder what happens in Zwei's head when someone like Kev Adams makes orcs and gobboes for GW in his own signature style, leaves, and then continues making Orcs and Gobboes in his own signature style, but for different companies.

Vrock on, Jeremy!



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 CreatureCaster wrote:
Poses like this are an example of what I am talking about, but we will go thru about a dozen silhouettes before settling on the right one. The concept art is really a start and not an end.

Standing rather than kneeling is my strong vote. I had no interest in a treewoman, but now you have it piqued. Though it won't be if she's kneeling.

Right on brother. You just dropped some serious science right there.



edit: and yes, no kneeling pose. She is crouched in the concept art, but that is only to fit her body into a frame that is not to tall for the Kickstarter page, 8x10, etc. She will be standing and we are doing extensive silhouettes in order to get her just right. Work in progress, shaped by you guys.

Jeremy,

How about smaller versions of these guys for use in other games. I don't do warhammer fantasy, haven't since fourth or fifth edition, though I play KoW now with my brother in law time to time using mantic and old GW models that I had. I'd love to be able to use my pincer demon as a giant, and then have others similar to him as trolls and if you made 28mm guys I could see doing rank and file to replace my orcs.

Mantic (the home of all the good old GW boyz), doesn't care who's figures you use, even state it in their rulebook, as long as the model conveys who it represents. I think you could talk to them and possibly work something out with them to do some big guys for their game system.

Also at what point will you think about switching to plastic? I don't want to start a brewhaha, but if you get enough business from the resins how about talking to WGF to see about going plastic? They can get the super details for your models, and as he continue to grow your line might be "big" enough to be a great seller.

Also do you have any interest in doing any sci fi oriented work? Or will everything be more organic?

Jeremy, your willingness to listen to the community in your design process never ceases to amaze me. I may have missed it in the video, but any idea when the next hangout for the minion's design is going to take place?

For those not following the comments on the kickstarter for these models, there are some great ideas that have popped up. A giant angel of death seems to be in the lead, but there are some other great ideas that have been thrown into the ring as well including my all time favorite suggestion by someone else....a Canadian Chimera. What's that you say. It has the heads of polar bears, moose, and beaver along with a beaver tail. Never underestimate how dangerous canada can be, the Australians think they have it bad with all their wildlife, but obviously people have survived those beasts and been able to show pictures. In canada when the wildlife gets you there's no escape or photographic evidence of what took you.

I'd really love to see another Giant from you, Jeremy. The Giant Mercenary you did under Ultraforge was a brilliant model.

one of the guys in the comments section took it upon himself to draw the Canadian chimera....

Open at your own risk
Or look at my new avatar

...

I will buy that, where do I insert money?

Cyporiean we still need to twist Jeremy's arm some more, and bribe him with loads if Canadian bacon topped with maple syrup and mayo. I love the treevolution he's trying to push but I want a Canadian chimera.

No official update yet, but the unlock has gone forward on the main page, the Treewalker!






Bronze level, and lookin' mi-tee-fine.

That model is incredibly cool. Must. Resist. Urge. Wallet. Already. Too. Barren.

Don't you mean mi-tree-fine?

The video is great, I would love to see a full body shot as the legs / shins are my favorite part. An upright pose is going to look killer.

I see my Canadian Chimera doodle!

 Theophony wrote:

Mantic (the home of all the good old GW boyz), doesn't care who's figures you use, even state it in their rulebook, as long as the model conveys who it represents. I think you could talk to them and possibly work something out with them to do some big guys for their game system.

Okay. You just blew my fething mind.

The stuff that Jeremy's putting out will be so far out of Mantic's current ability and production zone that it could just be a perfect fit. Mantic have shown a willingness to work with other companies for mantic-themed items quite a few times - Secret Weapon Battle Boards, Antenoceti's Workshop resin scenery, that other company who made suction-moulded (I've forgotten the correct term) DeadZone arenas. Big centrepiece models like Dragons, Demons, Angels, Treants, Giants of the quality shown in Jeremy's renders would only do great things for Kings of War and Warpath.

The only thing I take issue with is the comment about Mantic being the home of all the good old GW boys. It's more a diaspora, with Mantic being just part of it with Perry Miniatures, Foundry, Warlord, Copplestone, McVey (though still not forgiven for SW) and all of the others that mostly freelance now like Priestly, Chambers, Kev Adams and even those we associate with Mantic like Calvatore and Thornton.

Still, regardless of my pedantry, that's one brilliant, idea, Theo.

Has anyone heard what the next figure to be unlocked might be? I'm hoping it's the Zombie Dragon.

awesome pieces, really looking forward to getting to grips with some of these, keep up the great work guys ^^

I will be updating the page with the next unlock silhouette today. Stay tuned



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J3hHGVNx54

We are having another chat in a few hours. Going to be painting some Minion concepts, and talking about the campaign. Enjoy Dakkaites.

It seems like zombie dragon is up next and it looks great from the glimpse I caught.
And maybe a jackalope pet for the treewalker, which is awesome.

So now we need a stonewalker as stand in for a greater obsidian golem for abyssal dwarfs which of cause would be stepping on someone else IP, but they don't have one and as someone said mantic is really large about using models from other companies.

Sigh.... and in for an additional 70 CAD.
<shakes fist at Jeremy>

For those too lazy to watch the whole thing, there's a glimpse at a zombie dragon around 6:16