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Not to worry... the fourth book is apparently going to retread alot of the same legions instead of venturing into new ones from the little we've heard so the backlog shouldn't increase much.

Sadly, I can almost see that kit being released...

You're lucky. Back in 3rd edition when I played Chaos, if you wanted to do Alpha Legion, you had to settle for moutache decals because that's all you had and if you wanted babies stapled to the helmet then you needed to sculpt them yourself because even Chapterhouse wasn't around back then. You new players don't know how well you have it!

Stapling babies?

It's the dakka Alpha Legion meme. They're silent movie era villains who telegraph every obvious eeevil act like stapling babies to their ornate helmets while twirling their moustaches.

What was the Alpha Legion fluff like across the three books?

I'd be especially interested to know what it was like for the last one where they attack that Forge World, fighting loyalist Iron Warriors in the process. I don't imagine they are too mustache twirly in that.

It's more a reference to recent Black Library villainy. The Forge World fight is one of the only straight up slugfests they've engaged in throughout the recent fluff. In any case, I'm sure Alpharius (who came up with the meme) can explain more if he doesn't feel it is off topic to a FW thread.

Us second edition vets had to make do with metal babies and moustaches.

Have you ever tried to balance a Marine on any non level surface with a metal jump pack and a metal baby stapled to his head? Well, HAVE YOU?!!

The battle of Paramar is nothing short of murder of the mechanicum and Iron Warrior loyalists, its a great portrayal of the forthright style of warfare the XX legion exels at; integrated armoured spearhead warfare with tactical close airsupport.
Essential Blitzkrieg. Panzer spearheads with Sicarian and Spartan assult carriers; Laenean cataphractii terminarors an effrit execution squads at the fore, fire raptors and storm eagles hunting targets of opportunity: fellblade and glaive squadrons bringing up the rear. The god-machines of the Legio Furenas tearing the Legio Gryphonicus to shreds... Yet, it's not a total victory, as the XXth disengages once the machanicum installations are captured, leaving a poisoned apple seeded with remnant IV legion and mechanicum loyalists for the XVI (sons of horus) to hold and control in their wake.

Never forget, the Legion is the last failsafe, the double agent, The last loyal sons of the Emperor, poised to strike the killing blow once the pawns of the primordial annihilator overextend themslaves, to ensure the surival of the human species, no matter how long the virgil.

Hydra Dominatus!

Or, y'know, it'll just be the good guys losing again, because FW likes to do that in every book they write.

The Game of Golden Thrones?

Nice rundown of the Alpha Legion fluff.

I guess it would be hard to have any kind of Loyalist victory in the first three books.

At that point just surviving was a victory...

I didn't come up with the "Stapling Babies" thing - that was Dan Abnett I think?

Trying to explain how hard it is to write fiction where Chaos Marines are the main characters...

Now the Alpha Legion mustache twirling meme - I might have started that...

 Medium of Death wrote:
It's quite annoying that FW are taking so long to get the basics out for each Legion.

Hopefully all those covered in the first 3 books will have all their basic kits sooner rather than later. I'd be surprised if we don't see Iron Warrior and Alpha Legion parts soon.

There are some even more basics that FW needs to get to before more chapter specific parts-
Praetor in Tartaros/Indomitable TDA
Consuls- Chaplain, Librarian, Forge Lord, Vigilator
Dreadnought and Contemptor Volkite Culverns
Deimos pattern whirlwind

It would also be nice of FW started putting out more of the legion specific command squads like Sons of Horus got.

 Medium of Death wrote:
It's quite annoying that FW are taking so long to get the basics out for each Legion.

Hopefully all those covered in the first 3 books will have all their basic kits sooner rather than later. I'd be surprised if we don't see Iron Warrior and Alpha Legion parts soon.

At least there has been a fair bit of stuff that works well as Iron Warrior stuff released. I've been looking into re purposing a lot of the Iron Hands stuff, and anything that looks blunt, brutal and MKIII also works well for them...

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 Medium of Death wrote:
It's quite annoying that FW are taking so long to get the basics out for each Legion.

It could be worse. You could have the one thing you want (a Mechanicum army) come out at a snail's pace, with dribs and drabs and bits of an army coming out with each new book and no real list, just a list of what's available right now.

It can always be worse, at least with FW you know that they do the best they can as fast as they can and in 99% of the cases the wait is worthwile. I mean, do -anyone- really want someone else that the dymanic duo Mark Bedford - Will Hayes smudging their filthy paws all over the Mecanicum range? I for one can accept the slow pace if it means they only use their most experienced sculptors on the range, and let's face it, the sculpts are some of the most awsome that FW has ever produced.

'Tis beauty:





'Tis also pretty damn huge:




Praise the Omnissiah!

See?

Will Hayes at his best, giving us awsome robots to play with!

I just hope that Perturabo's Robot Bodyguard turn out as nice looking!

And that the 'right' sculptor gets the Alpharius/Omegon job!

Er - that's huge!
Definitely worth the £70 they're asking for IMO.
Have a small number of mech to add to my SM army, but this I might have to go the whole hog!!!

 bubber wrote:
Er - that's huge!
Definitely worth the £70 they're asking for IMO.
Have a small number of mech to add to my SM army, but this I might have to go the whole hog!!!

Agreed. To put it in perspective, it costs 10 GBP more than horus and double that of the smaller castellax in the pic. Thanks for posting the pic and news, HMBC.

Mother of God...

I might actually have to look into this whole 30K thing after all!

Looking at a quick google search, it seems that the giant cannon is a bit underwhelming despite the awesomeness of the sculpt and size of the model. It is just a single 5" blast Str8 AP2 reroll cover 48" range weapon which shrinks down to storm bolter range if the robot moves. That feels a bit "meh" compared to other things of the same size and caliber. If anything, I would have expected maybe ordnance 2 if stationary at least.

It comes in units of up to five (iirc) if you need more firepower ;-)

It will be mine. Oh yes, it will be mine.

Its a T8, W4, 2+ MC, so its biggest strength is that it is hard to kill, stick two or more in a unit and you can shuffle them around for wound allocation, give it will not die via a Magos for even more fun.

I would like three of them.

Also, at +15pts it get's +1BS for a total of 5 and reduces the cover save of it targets with -1, that, combined with forcing re-rolls of passed cover saves makes te plasma mortar quite nasty indeed. AP2 and Ordnance makes it quite useful vs. vehicles too.
And, should there be points to spare, it can take paragon of metal at +35pts, giving It Will Not Die!, Rampage and makes it nolonger subject to the Programed Behaviour rule but at the cost of not being able to score.

Remember something though when it comes to the robots: Cybertheurgy from your magi. Making stuff shoot twice, +d3 attacks, +2 initiative, loads of fun stuff. Having Ordnance 2 on the mortar would mean four 5'' blasts if a magi pulls it off, and with that special power only incurring a -2 penalty on a LD10 models' leadership test to activate,.. well they will be able to do so whenever in range.

Excellent model, and at a much better price point than the Knight!