Forgeworld 2014 News & Rumours - p#132 Questoris Knight Magaera

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**STC_LogisEngine**

You have not WHAT!?

And yet you flaunt the countenance and cognomen of the XXth?

How dare you sir, how dare you!

*smacks Alpharius' fingers with a ruler*

**Azreal13**

I've had RG pegged as Native American since forever, what with the fetishes and the predilection for stealth and hit & fade battle tactics, but I guess a general South Seas "tribal" theme fits just as well, it isn't like any of them are historically accurate!

**Alpharius**

Azreal13 wrote:
I've had RG pegged as Native American since forever, what with the fetishes and the predilection for stealth and hit & fade battle tactics, but I guess a general South Seas "tribal" theme fits just as well, it isn't like any of them are historically accurate!

Based on what exactly?

Until HH3, I don't think we knew much at all beyond their excellent IA article, and that certainly didn't really even hint at such a connection!

**STC_LogisEngine**

I have heard that a lot too, I think it comes from a late 90's GD-submitted sculpt of Corax interpreted as of native american etnicity with that whole feathers and long hair thing.
That sculpt, being the only widly distributed image of corax for more than a decade (I mean, the first ''Official art'' was the cover for Deliverance Lost and only by HH:3 do we see a detailed portrait), probably had a great deal of influence on how the playerbase and enthusiasts envisioned and interpreted the few snippets of information avalible on the Primarch(s) before Forge World and Black Library got the Heresy-project rolling.

**Azreal13**

Alpharius wrote:
Azreal13 wrote:
I've had RG pegged as Native American since forever, what with the fetishes and the predilection for stealth and hit & fade battle tactics, but I guess a general South Seas "tribal" theme fits just as well, it isn't like any of them are historically accurate!

Based on what exactly?

Until HH3, I don't think we knew much at all beyond their excellent IA article, and that certainly didn't really even hint at such a connection!

Do pay attention old boy, you know my capacity for making huge leaps based on very little information and hitting the target!

Plus what the Logis Engine said.

**angelofvengeance**

New Bulletin Folks. Raven Guard Contemptor

Forge World Bulletin #30

Now that I’m back in the office for a few weeks, until I head off to Amsterdam for the Forge World European Open Day that is, I’ve had a chance to catch up with what’s new in the Forge World Studio. Not long ago I showed you two new Contemptor Dreadnoughts for the Iron Warriors and Night Lords Legions. Now another is joining their ranks, this time for the Raven Guard, sculpted by Trish Carden, who recently completed the terrifying Dimachaeron.

The Raven Guard Contemptor Dreadnought is adorned with tribal patterns.

If you’d like to add a Contemptor Dreadnought to your army, we’ll have the full range of them available at Warhammer Fest in October. If you’re going to the event, you can purchase one there and then pick up some pro tips on modelling and painting it at the demo pods.

Way back in Forge World Bulletin #2, I showed you the first Terminator armoured Space Marine Phil Stutcinskas had painted for his Imperial Fists Legion. Phil hasn’t sat idle since. Inbetween designing awesome models such as the Legion Falchion, he’s filled out his Cataphractii pattern Terminator squad and added a Sicaran Battle Tank and a Legion Destroyer squad.

Phil’s army is taking shape nicely.

That’s all from me for now. Make sure you check back soon for more from the Forge World Studio.

Chris.

**Alpharius**

A well painted Imperial Fists force is a joy to behold!

Yellow - the most evil of all colors!

Well, besides white I guess?

Though I'm sure when the Scars finally show up, we'll see a lot of well painted white SM armies too!

**angelofvengeance**

Alpharius wrote:
A well painted Imperial Fists force is a joy to behold!

Yellow - the most evil of all colors!

Well, besides white I guess?

Though I'm sure when the Scars finally show up, we'll see a lot of well painted white SM armies too!

See, I don't like the bright yellow for the IF Chapter/Legion. I'd go for a darker shade personally.

**Dinamarth**

The basing is bland and the yellow ammo drums really go against the models in my opinion. Way to much yellow on the guns in general.

**jonolikespie**

I really don't like that yellow. Waaaaay too.. well yellow. Theren's no contrast, looks like very little shading. It's just bright and flat.

I also hate that Raven Guard dread. The tribal stuff looks entirely out of place.

**angelofvengeance**

Alpharius wrote:
A well painted Imperial Fists force is a joy to behold!

Yellow - the most evil of all colors!

Well, besides white I guess?

Though I'm sure when the Scars finally show up, we'll see a lot of well painted white SM armies too!

I bet the White Scars will look kinda badass with all their Mongol-esque gubbinz

Re IF stuff- personally, I like their Successor chapter, Hammers of Dorn better.

**Desubot**

angelofvengeance wrote:
Alpharius wrote:
A well painted Imperial Fists force is a joy to behold!

Yellow - the most evil of all colors!

Well, besides white I guess?

Though I'm sure when the Scars finally show up, we'll see a lot of well painted white SM armies too!

I bet the White Scars will look kinda badass with all their Mongol-esque gubbinz

Re IF stuff- personally, I like their Successor chapter, Hammers of Dorn better.

They hates smurfs so they are ok in my books

**sockwithaticket**

I'm warming to that RG Contemptor. Looks better than the IW one.

**Alpharius**

That's because the RG one is (wisely) NOT rocking a mustache...

**WrentheFaceless**

So what ever happend to the Knight Castigator, was shown a couple months ago, then nothing

**kronk**

Where are my Imperial Fists shoulder pads and my Templar Brethren?

**Davespil**

WrentheFaceless wrote:
So what ever happend to the Knight Castigator, was shown a couple months ago, then nothing

I'm waiting for it too. It should be up for preorder soon, maybe this Friday. I have my fingers crossed. I was so ready for it last week but instead we got more contemptors...

**Azreal13**

Are there any rules rumours/confirmation of weapons for the Castigator I may have missed?

I can remember reading a debate about what the gun may or may not be, but not anything definite.

**Davespil**

There is nothing but speculation out there. All I know is I saw two models that looked a lot alike with only a small change to one model's shoulder pads. One had a shield with what looked like a TL Mega Bolter on it and a double chain sword and the other one looked it was packing a big flamer type weapon and a power sword of some type. Or maybe I got the weapon combos crossed.

Other than that, everything I've read is speculation. These models should be coming soon because there are a bunch of pictures floating around of them. Do you buy the body and weapons seperately like titans or do you buy a complete model with weapons? I have no idea.

**thenoobbomb**

That IW Dread is lovely.

**Theophony**

Davespil wrote:
There is nothing but speculation out there. All I know is I saw two models that looked a lot alike with only a small change to one model's shoulder pads. One had a shield with what looked like a TL Mega Bolter on it and a double chain sword and the other one looked it was packing a big flamer type weapon and a power sword of some type. Or maybe I got the weapon combos crossed.

Other than that, everything I've read is speculation. These models should be coming soon because there are a bunch of pictures floating around of them. Do you buy the body and weapons seperately like titans or do you buy a complete model with weapons? I have no idea.

They'll probably be sold all as one piece, so you can't use a body you already have and they can justify a bigger price tag.

**sennacherib**

I'm never all that excited about the. Contemptors to me hey just don't look all that awesome. But that is just me.

**Zond**

I like Contemptors but the IW and NL ones seem a bit off to my eyes. I like the IF tank in the above picture. I know it's not canon, but I'd love to pick a loyalist legion and break it up a bit by including successor chapter colour schemes.

**ImAGeek**

Zond wrote:
I like Contemptors but the IW and NL ones seem a bit off to my eyes. I like the IF tank in the above picture. I know it's not canon, but I'd love to pick a loyalist legion and break it up a bit by including successor chapter colour schemes.

Well it's not not canon to do that...

**Koppo**

ImAGeek wrote:
Zond wrote:
I like Contemptors but the IW and NL ones seem a bit off to my eyes. I like the IF tank in the above picture. I know it's not canon, but I'd love to pick a loyalist legion and break it up a bit by including successor chapter colour schemes.

Well it's not not canon to do that...

It can be. Some legion chapters are stated as having their own unique unit markings and colours, for example the Word Bearers serrated sun chapter wore the maroon that was later adopted by the legion instead of the normal grey.

**Davespil**

sennacherib wrote:
I'm never all that excited about the. Contemptors to me hey just don't look all that awesome. But that is just me.

I'm just not that excited about them releasing the same model in 18 variants so that each chapter can have their own. There are some cool new models coming down the pipeline I'd like to get a hold of. Waiting for two new variants of an Imperial Knight to be released but instead it's two more contemptors...

**ImAGeek**

Koppo wrote:
ImAGeek wrote:
Zond wrote:
I like Contemptors but the IW and NL ones seem a bit off to my eyes. I like the IF tank in the above picture. I know it's not canon, but I'd love to pick a loyalist legion and break it up a bit by including successor chapter colour schemes.

Well it's not not canon to do that...

It can be. Some legion chapters are stated as having their own unique unit markings and colours, for example the Word Bearers serrated sun chapter wore the maroon that was later adopted by the legion instead of the normal grey.

Yeah that's what I said, it's NOT not canon. For example, in Extermination, there are some Imperial Fists in mostly black armour. And there's a Raven Guard legionary in grey armour sent away to the edges of the galaxy as part of the Nomad Predation fleet, which could be the precursors to the Carcharodons.

**MajorWesJanson**

Davespil wrote:
sennacherib wrote:
I'm never all that excited about the. Contemptors to me hey just don't look all that awesome. But that is just me.

I'm just not that excited about them releasing the same model in 18 variants so that each chapter can have their own. There are some cool new models coming down the pipeline I'd like to get a hold of. Waiting for two new variants of an Imperial Knight to be released but instead it's two more contemptors...

Well, it may not seem all that fun, but when you play 1 or two legions, you are going to care about those two, and not the other 16 versions. Others will care about different ones.

At least the Contemptors and many of the legion variation stuff like shoulder pads are minimal investments of design time- the Contemptor base is the same, so they dont have to rediscover the STC for the wheel each time. The amount of design time taken for the probably not all that much different for the design of a single tank like the fellblade (the first time) or for the new Knights (aain the first time, later iterations are merely variants and take a lot less time)

Having the two contemptors released that they did pretty much finishes up book 2 unique models, and starts some of the book 3 stuff

**Koppo**

ImAGeek wrote:

Yeah that's what I said, it's NOT not canon. For example, in Extermination, there are some Imperial Fists in mostly black armour. And there's a Raven Guard legionary in grey armour sent away to the edges of the galaxy as part of the Nomad Predation fleet, which could be the precursors to the Carcharodons.

Sorry, I missed the double negative.

Anyway, Zond, fill ya boots, if anybody whinges say "I saw a reference to it in [random book title]" and most likely they'll buy it. They are, after all, your toys.

**ImAGeek**

Koppo wrote:
ImAGeek wrote:

Yeah that's what I said, it's NOT not canon. For example, in Extermination, there are some Imperial Fists in mostly black armour. And there's a Raven Guard legionary in grey armour sent away to the edges of the galaxy as part of the Nomad Predation fleet, which could be the precursors to the Carcharodons.

Sorry, I missed the double negative.

Anyway, Zond, fill ya boots, if anybody whinges say "I saw a reference to it in [random book title]" and most likely they'll buy it. They are, after all, your toys.

Nah don't worry, a double negative probably wasn't the way to word it, I was just trying to emphasise that it's all in that grey area between canon and not. 30k is huge though, you can do almost anything with your legion and still be in the boundaries of canon. as above, if anyone whinges... They're taking it too seriously. Yes pre heresy is *historical* but it's all about fun!