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I do what I can...

I love the new Archmagos but I know deep in my heart I will have to sell my soul and/internal organs to get it and than deal with how hideously miscast it might end up (that is a ton of small parts)

 Alpharius wrote:
Once he made the Primarchs, and then lost them, he used their geneseed/DNA/etc. to create 'true' marines, but by then, they were Space Marines and were definitely known by the name of whatever legion their Primarch was from.

My knowledge of the 30K era comes from the Forgeworld books, not the Black Library. IIRC, the 20 Legions originally had no names at all (names were eventually given to them based on their actions), but were simply numbered at the start. I think they also all looked the same: grey armor bearing the lightning bolt emblem. Of course, the pictures shown in this thread show the Legion 0 marine in MkIV armor, so certainly can't be from the start of the Great Crusade. So, I'm guessing it will be likely that this Legion 0 will be loyalist elements of the traitor legions, who have given up the markings of the former legions, like d-usa suggests.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Once he made the Primarchs, and then lost them, he used their geneseed/DNA/etc. to create 'true' marines, but by then, they were Space Marines and were definitely known by the name of whatever legion their Primarch was from.

My knowledge of the 30K era comes from the Forgeworld books, not the Black Library. IIRC, the 20 Legions originally had no names at all (names were eventually given to them based on their actions), but were simply numbered at the start. I think they also all looked the same: grey armor bearing the lightning bolt emblem. Of course, the pictures shown in this thread show the Legion 0 marine in MkIV armor, so certainly can't be from the start of the Great Crusade. So, I'm guessing it will be likely that this Legion 0 will be loyalist elements of the traitor legions, who have given up the markings of the former legions, like d-usa suggests.

Isn't the history if the Grey Knights that they picked the loyalist survivors and started that before the heresy was even over? That's what makes me think that they are something along that line. No crazy anti-demon psykers yet, but the beginning of the force that was selected to be the first of the Grey Knights.

Can anyone give us info on the XV-109? All of this mechanicum stuff is cool, but not all of us play imperial armies.

 d-usa wrote:

 Moopy wrote:
The new guard and AdMech items look wonderful!

The Raven Guard Contemptor? Goofy. Swirly pattern makes zero sense.

The pattern makes sense in the 30K setting. But I think it might hurt it for 40k sales.

Could you point me to it? I've read a lot of 30k but I've missed this. The rivets are spot on, but the swoopy-doopy weirdo lines all over it don't make sense.



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 d-usa wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Once he made the Primarchs, and then lost them, he used their geneseed/DNA/etc. to create 'true' marines, but by then, they were Space Marines and were definitely known by the name of whatever legion their Primarch was from.

My knowledge of the 30K era comes from the Forgeworld books, not the Black Library. IIRC, the 20 Legions originally had no names at all (names were eventually given to them based on their actions), but were simply numbered at the start. I think they also all looked the same: grey armor bearing the lightning bolt emblem. Of course, the pictures shown in this thread show the Legion 0 marine in MkIV armor, so certainly can't be from the start of the Great Crusade. So, I'm guessing it will be likely that this Legion 0 will be loyalist elements of the traitor legions, who have given up the markings of the former legions, like d-usa suggests.

Isn't the history if the Grey Knights that they picked the loyalist survivors and started that before the heresy was even over? That's what makes me think that they are something along that line. No crazy anti-demon psykers yet, but the beginning of the force that was selected to be the first of the Grey Knights.

Follow the Garro audio series for this.

In HH 3 didn't the Alpha Legion hang around with the Emp. as a no name legion for a time?

I would *really* like a Volkite Leman Russ.

I'd like it even more if I could convince people to let my Death Korps use one.

 Moopy wrote:

 d-usa wrote:

 Moopy wrote:
The new guard and AdMech items look wonderful!

The Raven Guard Contemptor? Goofy. Swirly pattern makes zero sense.

The pattern makes sense in the 30K setting. But I think it might hurt it for 40k sales.

Could you point me to it? I've read a lot of 30k but I've missed this. The rivets are spot on, but the swoopy-doopy weirdo lines all over it don't make sense.

They introduced it in the 3rd book.

The pattern on the Raven Guard contemptor to me strongly resembles indigenous Australian rock paintings, and I'm pretty sure the Raven Guard now have an Australasian/Oceanian tribal heritage as of HH3 (not read that far yet)

Put the pictures I made yesterday up in de gallery

Knights (volkire and lightninggun)









Solarite Auxilia









More stuff in my gallery

Had a chat with Edgar about the solarite auxilia. Started as a personal project, but wil now be fleshed out to a complete army. First kit to be released very soon wil be a 20 man strong troop unit. on show were a volkite armed and flamer armed solarite, also in his concept book was a command squad. Bassed on napoleonics and colonialist troops, veterans to retake a world and act as bodyguards for the new planatary gouvenar. Asked about roughriders, he want to make them but they are still a way off.

Tannhauser42 wrote: IIRC, the 20 Legions originally had no names at all (names were eventually given to them based on their actions)

Actually, the Legions had their own names prior to reuniting with their Primarchs. For example, the World Eaters were originally known as the War Hounds(?).

IronBars wrote:

Had a chat with Edgar about the solarite auxilia. Started as a personal project, but wil now be fleshed out to a complete army. First kit to be released very soon wil be a 20 man strong troop unit. on show were a volkite armed and flamer armed solarite, also in his concept book was a command squad. Bassed on napoleonics and colonialist troops, veterans to retake a world and act as bodyguards for the new planatary gouvenar. Asked about roughriders, he want to make them but they are still a way off.

If by rough riders you mean imperial army on bikes and jetbikes, then i do hope they come sooner rather then later

 Hubris75 wrote:

Tannhauser42 wrote: IIRC, the 20 Legions originally had no names at all (names were eventually given to them based on their actions)

Actually, the Legions had their own names prior to reuniting with their Primarchs. For example, the World Eaters were originally known as the War Hounds(?).

Actually, Tannhauser is correct- originally they were referred to only by the Legion Numeral. The Legion specific names were earned as battle honours: the Luna Wolves earned that name after the pacification of the Gene-cults on the Moon, the Imperial Fists were so called as the aftermath of one of their battles was said to leave the area so devastated that the Emperor himself had grasped it in his fist, the Dusk Raiders traditionally attacked at Dusk. Not all Legions gained unique names prior to being reunited with their Primarchs either- the Iron Warriors had no official name prior to Purturabo naming them, although they were unofficially called the Corpse Grinders by their allied Imperial Army units. This name was censored due to morale concerns however.


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On another note, the Solar units are referred to as Sections, which is interesting. I wonder if they are going to have a more British Army style of organisation, maybe Corporals will lead sqauds.

The mechanicum stuff is looking great. I'm getting really tempted to get that volkite toting knight.

The Solarite Auxilia look better and better the more FW works on them. They have such better styling that goes with their vehicles. It just emphasizes how aesthetically weak Cadians are.

The only thing I don't like about the Solarite Auxilia is the helmets they just look a bit off to me.

Stuff looks good, but...

'Dear Forgeworld,

Not sure if you noticed, but GW actually produces a few other games besides Space Marines (or as some call it, Warhammer 40,000). One of those is Warhammer Fantasy, and they actually have a huge expansion rolling out right now simply rife with opportunity for cool new models (TK Hierotitan, Dwarf Golem, High Elf Dragon Rider Units, just to name a few). Please think about making something else for Warhammer Fantasy in the near future. Thanks!

Sincerely,
All Fantasy Players Ever'

Did FW not say that they'd basically suspended all of their Fantasy projects, so I wouldn't be expecting anything new any time soon.

 TyraelVladinhurst wrote:

IronBars wrote:

Had a chat with Edgar about the solarite auxilia. Started as a personal project, but wil now be fleshed out to a complete army. First kit to be released very soon wil be a 20 man strong troop unit. on show were a volkite armed and flamer armed solarite, also in his concept book was a command squad. Bassed on napoleonics and colonialist troops, veterans to retake a world and act as bodyguards for the new planatary gouvenar. Asked about roughriders, he want to make them but they are still a way off.

If by rough riders you mean imperial army on bikes and jetbikes, then i do hope they come sooner rather then later

Didn't ask explicitly but I can't see these guy's riding horseback.

I could so see these guys on horseback. Many of their styling draw from 1900 diving suits an era where cavalry was still prevalent and aren't any bulkier than medieval knights. These appear to be conventional non-marine forces that followed the Emperor into the Galaxy. More than other rough riders it'd make sense they'd have horses.

They would make awesome armsmen and generic Imperial Navy ship crew.

I cannot finish models quick enough! Acgkh! Amazing new kits overload... gotta get some of those Solaria Auxilia and also the AdMech stuff.

Just noticed this on the FW website:

Warhammer 40,000 scale Titan Tech Priest. 9 part resin model including Boltpistol armed Servo Skull, cast on an integral terrain base. This model is perfectly suited to represent Magos Reductor Calleb Decima from The Horus Heresy Book One: Betrayal. Model designed by Simon Egan and Will Hayes.

The bit in bold is new. They have basically just stated that this is the official model for Calleb Decima, before that it only happened to be the spitting image of the picture for Calleb in Book 1.

 gianlucafiorentini123 wrote:

 Moopy wrote:

 d-usa wrote:

 Moopy wrote:
The new guard and AdMech items look wonderful!

The Raven Guard Contemptor? Goofy. Swirly pattern makes zero sense.

The pattern makes sense in the 30K setting. But I think it might hurt it for 40k sales.

Could you point me to it? I've read a lot of 30k but I've missed this. The rivets are spot on, but the swoopy-doopy weirdo lines all over it don't make sense.

They introduced it in the 3rd book.

Interesting, I'll have to revisit that.

However, the design problem persists- that swirly pattern isn't replicated anywhere else through the Ravenguard designs. It's a one-off and those feel out of place.

It might be what we can expect moving forward though, right?

Maybe we'll see it on a lot of the RG characters from HH3?

Maybe even on Corax himself?

In Book 3, every Raven Guard image in their fluff section has the artwork on the armour somewhere, so I don't think it is going to be a one-off for long. I think it is meant to be a hold-over of the Legion's original Terran culture, which could explain why it isn't really seen on 40k Raven Guard. Even so, there are Marines from Deliverance in Book 3 that have the art work on them, so maybe it was part of the Terran culture that appealed to the Lycaens.

You know I never put Australian and raven guard together, but just rethinking how deliverance was a prison moon, and Australia was a prison island it all makes sense now . Now we aboriginal tribal markings are making more sense as I always thought raven guard were more Native American heritage.

 Alpharius wrote:
It might be what we can expect moving forward though, right?

Maybe we'll see it on a lot of the RG characters from HH3?

Maybe even on Corax himself?

Going to be hard to see Corax since he choses to be invisible.

HO HO HO

Hmm, the Triaros Armoured Conveyor might just be the most powerful dedicated transport in 30k;

For 135 points you get AV 14(!) / 12 / 12, 4 HP and Flare Shield, which reduces Template weapons by -2 and other weapons by -1, effectively leaving you immune to front-arc firepower that isn't within Melta range. Even Vindicators need 6s to just glance you. Heck, you're immune to Meltas outside of melta range, including the Magna Melta on the Questoris Knight Errant.

The ram is just icing on the cake. Transport Capacity 20 as well...

You can take a HQ upgrade that gives all your vehicles IWND.

Mech Mechanicus is a fearsome thing... in 40k you can get Obj Secured AV 14 spam...

Yep, the Triaros is nice. The problem with it, however, is that the Mechanicum army list is even more starved for points than the Legion list is. Apart from the Tech-Thralls, just about everything in the Mechanicum list is expensive.