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Hi everyone, I just recently traded for a group of Ogres that I plan on fleshing out and making into a 2.5k point army. However, I have never played Ogres before. I own the rulebook and so have sort of a idea of how the armies and units work. I need a few suggestions for things to buy to flesh the army out to a semi-competitve 2.5k list. Also, are lead bleachers SOOO good that its almost mandatory? I just think that 48$ for 4 of them is kind of a hefty price (and I heard that I would need 2 boxes to make them good). Also, how are stone horns and thunder tusks? Are they good? Which is better? What should I add to the list below to make it a fun 2.4k list? Should I get a BSB? What model should I get for the BSB model? All help appreciated. Thanks!

This is what I have so far:
Lord -Slaughtermaster, Extra Level, Fencers Blades, Greedy Fist, Earthing Rod Total = 385

Hero – Firebelly, Extra Level, Great weapon, Dispel Scroll Total = 189

Core - 8 x Ogres, Ironfists, Bellower, Standard Bearer Total = 276
Core - 7 x Ironguts, Standard of Discipline, Standard Bearer Total = 326

Special - 1 x Sabretusk Total = 21
Special - 1 x Sabretusk Total = 21
Special - 2 x Mournfang (will get 2 more for sure), Heavy Armour, Ironfists, Bellower, Standard Bearer, Dragonhide Banner Total = 350

1 Ironblaster Total = 170

TOTAL= 1738

First off welcome to what is a great army. without further or do:

This is what I have so far:
Lord -Slaughtermaster, Extra Level, Fencers Blades, Greedy Fist, Earthing Rod Total = 385

An interesting build that generally does the job. although i really would swap the earthing rod for a dispel scroll.

Hero – Firebelly, Extra Level, Great weapon, Dispel Scroll Total = 189

Great weapon sounds good but i would run AHW, that way any enemy with regen gets hit by him BEFORE any of your ogres strike, meaning your Ogres won't have to worry about the enemies regen providing you wound. Also change his scroll for Hellheart. Hellheart is so good for its points is fattening.

Also a Bruiser BSB is a must for Ogre armies.

Core - 8 x Ogres, Ironfists, Bellower, Standard Bearer Total = 276
Core - 7 x Ironguts, Standard of Discipline, Standard Bearer Total = 326

Decent starts for both, need a few more ironguts for better numbers and to reach the minimum 750 pts you have to spend on core for a 2.5k list. get look out gnoblars as it only 5 pts and potentially saves a character from cannon balls.

Special - 1 x Sabretusk Total = 21
Special - 1 x Sabretusk Total = 21
Special - 2 x Mournfang (will get 2 more for sure), Heavy Armour, Ironfists, Bellower, Standard Bearer, Dragonhide Banner Total = 350

Great all round, kittys are brill units and mournfang are equipped IMHO the correct way. i would also consider a second unit of these for 300 pts.

1 Ironblaster Total = 170

best cannon in the game. generally i take 2, and with good reason.


Overall you have a great start to an ogre army.

Awesome! Thank you sir!
Okay so with some consideration then, I am thinking that I might as well pick up another battalion (due to my lack or core and to get some leadbealchers), another iron blaster and the 2 more mourn fangs. I all cut down my army later but so far with EVERYTHING I HAVE, this is my army:

Lord -Slaughtermaster, Extra Level, Fencers Blades, Greedy Fist, Dispell Scroll Total = 385

Hero – Firebelly, Extra Level, Hellheart Total = 205
Hero - Bruiser, BSB, Heavy Armour, Enchanted Shield, Talisman of Endurance Total = 169 (not sure about his build :/)

Core - 14 x Ogres, Ironfists, Bellower, Standard Bearer, Look-out Gnoblar Total = 473
Core - 13 x Ironguts, Standard of Discipline, Standard Bearer, Look-out Gnoblar Total = 589
(are these bricks too big? Should I split them into smaller groups? Also, how should I allocate the Ironguts vs Ogres, how many of each is optimal?)

Special - 1 x Sabretusk Total = 21
Special - 1 x Sabretusk Total = 21
Special - 4 x Mournfang Cavalry, Heavy Armour, Ironfists, Bellower, Standard Bearer, Dragonhide Banner Total = 350
Special - 4 x Leadbelchers, Bellower Total = 182
(Am I done for special? Is the 4 leadbelchers enough to do anything?)

Rare - 2 x Ironblaster Total = 340


Alternatively, I can go the route of not getting a battalion and just focusing on getting the stuff I need (which would mean not getting any core but instead get special + rare stuff) and it would look something like this:
Lord -Slaughtermaster, Extra Level, Fencers Blades, Greedy Fist, Earthing Rod Total = 385

Hero – Firebelly, Extra Level, Great weapon, Dispel Scroll Total = 189
Hero - Bruiser, BSB, Heavy Armour, Enchanted Shield, Talisman of Endurance Total = 169 (will get an ACTUAL model for this bad boy I'm thinking Golgfag)

Core - 8 x Ogres, Ironfists, Bellower, Standard Bearer Total = 276
Core - 7 x Ironguts, Standard of Discipline, Standard Bearer Total = 326

Special - 1 x Sabretusk Total = 21
Special - 1 x Sabretusk Total = 21
Special - 3 x Mournfang Cavalry, Heavy Armour, Ironfists, Bellower, Standard Bearer, Dragonhide Banner Total = 280
Special - 3 x Mournfang Cavalry, Heavy Armour, Ironfists, Bellower, Standard Bearer Total = 230

Rare - 2 x Ironblaster Total = 340
Rare - 1 x Thundertusk or Stonehorn?

Which path should I walk down? Thanks again for the help man! Cheers!

Thank you sir!

No probs

Lord -Slaughtermaster, Extra Level, Fencers Blades, Greedy Fist, Dispell Scroll Total = 385

Great

Hero – Firebelly, Extra Level, Hellheart Total = 205

Great

Hero - Bruiser, BSB, Heavy Armour, Enchanted Shield, Talisman of Endurance Total = 169 (not sure about his build :/)

Its a good cheap build. 3+ armour and 5+ ward is pretty solid. if you have the points spare swap the enchanted shield, talisman and heavy armour for an ironfist and the armour of destiny (4+ ward heavy armour)

You really do want to keep him alive and a 4+ armour save and the 4+ ward will do that better IMHO than 3+/5+.

Core - 14 x Ogres, Ironfists, Bellower, Standard Bearer, Look-out Gnoblar Total = 473
Core - 13 x Ironguts, Standard of Discipline, Standard Bearer, Look-out Gnoblar Total = 589

Great big blocks of ogres, what's not to like? presumably 2 cahracters with guts and 1 in ogres for 2 units of 15? probably what i would do. i'd say slaughtermaster and bsb with guts.

(are these bricks too big? Should I split them into smaller groups? Also, how should I allocate the Ironguts vs Ogres, how many of each is optimal?)

Many will say yes from a competitive stand point, i personally run 1 unity of each with 16 in each unit!

Monstrous hordes are devastating. if its aimed at tournament play, i would look at dropping the guts to say 9-12 and the normal ogre into multiple units of 4-6.

If its purely for fun BIG HORDES!!!!!!

Special - 1 x Sabretusk Total = 21
Special - 1 x Sabretusk Total = 21
Special - 4 x Mournfang Cavalry, Heavy Armour, Ironfists, Bellower, Standard Bearer, Dragonhide Banner Total = 350
Special - 4 x Leadbelchers, Bellower Total = 182
(Am I done for special? Is the 4 leadbelchers enough to do anything?)

Solid. I am of the opinion that although belchers are much better now than previous ogre books, they are points you should be spending on either mournfang or possibly maneaters. a unit of 4 definately has its uses though.

Rare - 2 x Ironblaster Total = 340

Yummy

Alternatively, I can go the route of not getting a battalion and just focusing on getting the stuff I need (which would mean not getting any core but instead get special + rare stuff) and it would look something like this:
Lord -Slaughtermaster, Extra Level, Fencers Blades, Greedy Fist, Earthing Rod Total = 385

Hero – Firebelly, Extra Level, Great weapon, Dispel Scroll Total = 189
Hero - Bruiser, BSB, Heavy Armour, Enchanted Shield, Talisman of Endurance Total = 169 (will get an ACTUAL model for this bad boy I'm thinking Golgfag)

Fine, again i would drop the earthing rod but no biggy.

Core - 8 x Ogres, Ironfists, Bellower, Standard Bearer Total = 276
Core - 7 x Ironguts, Standard of Discipline, Standard Bearer Total = 326

as before, you need another 30ish points in core to meet minimum for 2.5k which is 625.

Special - 1 x Sabretusk Total = 21
Special - 1 x Sabretusk Total = 21
Special - 3 x Mournfang Cavalry, Heavy Armour, Ironfists, Bellower, Standard Bearer, Dragonhide Banner Total = 280
Special - 3 x Mournfang Cavalry, Heavy Armour, Ironfists, Bellower, Standard Bearer Total = 230

good, but i would run 2 units of 4 mournfang, not in 3's as you are limiting how effective the dragonhide banner is this way.

Rare - 2 x Ironblaster Total = 340

Yummy

Rare - 1 x Thundertusk or Stonehorn?

This would be where rule of cool takes over (and rightly so, its your money and army after all). if you want one, make it a stonehorn.

Which path should I walk down? Thanks again for the help man! Cheers!

out of the 2 lists i would suggest list 1. but a hybrid of the 2 by reducing the amount of points you are spending in core you could run the 2 ogre units at around 9-10 in each, this would possibly free up enough points for a stonehorn?

Ahhh thanks for your help man! I have my shopping list done XD. Except one thing that I'm not sure is say I venture into 3k points range, would 3 ironblasters be frowned upon? Would it be good even for that matter? Thanks man!

VostroyanFirstClass wrote:
Ahhh thanks for your help man! I have my shopping list done XD. Except one thing that I'm not sure is say I venture into 3k points range, would 3 ironblasters be frowned upon? Would it be good even for that matter? Thanks man!

TBH yes it probably would and to be fair i don't think you need a 3rd.

Those points would be better spent on any specials or even a butcher for more maigcal options.