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Hey mates!

Just asking a quick question to all of my fellow Nid players about the two most popular troop choices for our army. Which one do you prefer or which one do you believe is more effective in this edition with the new Codex? Hormaguants for there fast speed and CC ability with poison or Termaguants for there cheaper points and shooting ability to go along with there mismatch weaponry and being able to take the Tervigon? Also please just don't vote, please tell me why which one you would prefer to run with the new book? Thanks.

Termagaunts for the Tervigon troop choice. If I was running Hormagaunts I'd probably do them as cheaply as possible. They die really easily. unless you have some way to protect them.

Venoms shrouded-granting abilities do wonders, especially when combined with terrain cover and night fighting. (I mention this as its a good way to get as many hormagaunts into CC as possible)

As for hormagaunts they can wreck havoc! In Miniwargamings latest video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM7KMjNqJ9k

about 13 of them killed 4 necron wraiths and left one at one wound in a single round of combat! Granted this was a little above average rolling but still. Right now its 5/2 in favor of the termagaunts but dont leave out hormagaunts.

Good points mates, however reason I didnt want to do a poll really is that everyone just votes but doesn't explain any reasoning at all. Might have to repost this without a poll so I can actually get more responses.

 Rommel44 wrote:
Good points mates, however reason I didnt want to do a poll really is that everyone just votes but doesn't explain any reasoning at all. Might have to repost this without a poll so I can actually get more responses.

Homargants are more expensive, but are faster and better in combat.

Termagants are cheaper, have range and are better for backfield objectives where your opponent will forget until turn 17.

I prefer the terms because they are cheaper and in most cases they are just a screen for my fatty slow bugs. If I'm going to screen for a flyrant, I'll use gargoyles.

I hate fleet, I think its the roll that the dice god have chosen to punish me with, well that and scatter. I've tried to run them but they just are not reliably fast enough. For what I would use them for.

I prefer hormagaunts for a lot of reasons, but the two are apples and oranges, hormagaunts are a fast dedicated melee unit, termagants are a cheap throw-away shooting unit. You can't really say one is better than the other because they fill two entirely different roles, and depending on what you're looking for, one of them will suit your needs better than the other.

Seems like Termaguants are holding a major edge over the Hormaguants at the moment lol. I have considered running units of both, but in case of the Termaguants, I hear people say taking them in large numbers is the way to go which I agree with, however is it worth taking the Trevigon? They aren't as good as they used to be and it seems like a bit of a point-sink at this point.

Currently, I am considering running at 2x units of 30x Toxic Hormaguants and 1x unit of 30x Termaguants, supported by 2x Units of 3x to 4x Warriors, each with a Barbed Strangler for Synapse and fire-support. Thoughts?

I voted for horms but that's only because I prefer the style of play required to make them a competitive choice. Since the new book came I have ran a unit of each type of gaunt every time and not been disappointed. I take them naked and cheap as chips, 390 points for 79 wounds to bubble wrap your army with is incredible.

Termagants are cheaper, can shoot, can have devourers mixed in to increase damage output, don't commit suicide outside of Synapse range, and buy Toxin Sacs for less points.

Hormagaunts are slightly cheaper slow gargoyles with no guns that enjoy suicide.

I voted for the termaguants, simply because of again, beating a dead horse a bit, but back field objectives as well as range and point cost, I mean don't get me wrong I fielded hormaguants but they just don't seem to do enough without poison W
Which just increases their points further. So I would say for bus depending on your army overall, as is with almost every case but my overall vote would be termaguants.

 PrinceRaven wrote:
Termagants are cheaper, can shoot, can have devourers mixed in to increase damage output, don't commit suicide outside of Synapse range, and buy Toxin Sacs for less points.

Hormagaunts are slightly cheaper slow gargoyles with no guns that enjoy suicide.

And can hit enemy firelines in turn 2, causing a massive clusterduck as combat blocks up LOS, reduces enemy mobility and forces them to start relocating in case of overrunning gaunts. But that turn 2 impact is hugely important as the traffic and LOS jam it causes lets your footsloggers make progress as well as giving your flankers and deep strikers windows.

Horms are better as they keep up with flyrant synapse. Gargs are better but horms score.

If I were allowed to take Troop Tervigons without Termagants, my Troops would be 2x Hormaguants and 1 Tervigon.

Since that isn't allowed, it's one of each.

fleet units that are dirt cheap, AND get +3 to runs...

yes I would LOVE to take 5pt models that generally are in CC turn two...

Hormagaunts would be my third troops choice. UI'd probably always want one squad of 30 for speedy shielding, and against more elite opponents, as a swamp. i dont care if they die as long as they do so cheaply and fearlessly.

 DarkStarSabre wrote:

 PrinceRaven wrote:
Termagants are cheaper, can shoot, can have devourers mixed in to increase damage output, don't commit suicide outside of Synapse range, and buy Toxin Sacs for less points.

Hormagaunts are slightly cheaper slow gargoyles with no guns that enjoy suicide.

And can hit enemy firelines in turn 2, causing a massive clusterduck as combat blocks up LOS, reduces enemy mobility and forces them to start relocating in case of overrunning gaunts. But that turn 2 impact is hugely important as the traffic and LOS jam it causes lets your footsloggers make progress as well as giving your flankers and deep strikers windows.

Which Gargoyles can also do, better.

"But Hormagaunts can score!" you say. "If you're charging them towards a gunline will they be alive at turn 5 to score?" I reply.

The only drawback Gargoyles have over Hormaguants was that Hormagaunts used come like a zillion to a box, so everyone owns a hundred. Gargoyles weren't so efficient to own.

As a unit that it wholly useful in more situations, I can't imagine why anyone would prefer hormagaunts.