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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/24 20:57:39
Subject: Seeking Menoth Advice:
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Dakka Veteran
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Thank you all in advance. So I've been slowly building up a menoth warband, I want to have a 35 point group. I figure my current group comes to 32 points, so I'm only looking to make one more purchase. I currently have:
Warcasters:
Thyra
Kreoss
Warjacks:
Crusader Heavy Warjack
Vanquisher Heavy Warjack
Repenter Light Warjack
Infantry:
Examplar Cinderators
Daughters of the Flame
Choir of Menoth
Solo:
2x Vassal of Menoth
So. I'm only looking to buy one more unit for my Menoth. What should I buy? and what would be my best 35 point warband?
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I like to say I have two armies: Necrons, and Imperium.....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/24 21:36:50
Subject: Re:Seeking Menoth Advice:
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Sniping Hexa
Some small city in nowhere, Illinois,United States
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Seeing this, I see this working well with Kreoss a little, but not so much Thyra (although I have not player her yet in person, but it still can work at 25 but bot at 35).
One thing I would suggest is get Rhupert and the wracks, and which out one of the Vassals for the Covenant of Menoth. This way, you can give the Daughters tough and immune to knockdown, and with pKreoss's Defenders Ward (I am assuming you do have pKreoss, since it seems part of what you have is from the 2-player starter set. Although I really recommend another unit over the Cinerators later on, but you can keep using them for now (Either Holy Zealots with there UA, Temple Flameguard and UA, or their cousin unit the Bastions). And this is with pKreoss.
For Thyra, I say keep her at the 15 to 25 pts level since you do not have a lot of Jacks that go good with her, save for the Crusader, although the Repenter may work, but not too well with her. Here is a list that may work with minimum purchases with what I have said:
Faction: Protectorate of Menoth
Casters: 1/1
Points: 25/25
Thyra, Flame of Sorrow (*6pts)
* Repenter (4pts)
* Crusader (6pts)
Choir of Menoth (Leader and 3 Grunts) (2pts)
Daughters of the Flame (Leader and 5 Grunts) (5pts)
Exemplar Cinerators (Leader and 4 Grunts) (8pts)
Rhupert Carvolo, Piper of Ord (2pts)
The Covenant of Menoth (2pts)
Vassal of Menoth (2pts)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/24 21:49:45
Subject: Re:Seeking Menoth Advice:
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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epic Eyriss is a good 3 point solo.
I'd also think about converting the Cinerators into Bastions. Much superior unit for the same cost.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/24 21:59:48
Subject: Re:Seeking Menoth Advice:
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Sniping Hexa
Some small city in nowhere, Illinois,United States
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Grey Templar wrote:epic Eyriss is a good 3 point solo.
I'd also think about converting the Cinerators into Bastions. Much superior unit for the same cost.
That works also, I forgot about her.
Then again, she seems to always die on me via stray blast/getting poor rolls with her and her seemingly high rat...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/24 22:05:54
Subject: Re:Seeking Menoth Advice:
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Well that is how I always kill Eyriss. Boosted Redeemer blast to the face.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/24 23:35:56
Subject: Seeking Menoth Advice:
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Dakka Veteran
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Yes its pKreoss, from the 2 player starter set.
So get Rhupert to buff the Daughters.
Or get Epic Eyriss...
Thank you.
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I like to say I have two armies: Necrons, and Imperium.....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/26 08:29:37
Subject: Re:Seeking Menoth Advice:
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Nurgle Predator Driver with an Infestation
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Grey Templar wrote:epic Eyriss is a good 3 point solo.
I'd also think about converting the Cinerators into Bastions. Much superior unit for the same cost.
I would love to hear your thoughts on this, as due to some recent trades I have 3 units of cinerators.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/26 08:50:34
Subject: Seeking Menoth Advice:
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Big Fat Gospel of Menoth
The other side of the internet
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It basically comes down to the fact that bastions can shift damage around so that you ave to do 36 points of damage to kill one bastion. Bastions also have reach but one less point of armor. And the icing on the cake is the new seneschal that heals bastions in the area. Cinerators are cool and interesting, but your opponent has to damage them for them to catch up to bastions on the charge and they're not as tough as bastions.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/26 16:46:22
Subject: Re:Seeking Menoth Advice:
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Bastions have a greater threat range, plus the ability to share wounds like Surtur mentioned. They also have Blessed weapons.
Cinerators have 2 special abilities, both of which require your opponent to screw up. They require your opponent to damage them, but not kill them, to increase their threat range. And their Flame Burst ability requires your opponent to clump up.
Anyone who knows what Cinerators do will simply not shoot them and let them slog across the table and once they get there will spread his infantry out to absorb their charge. And then will finish them off in one solid blow instead of plinking away.
And anything that makes Cinerators better does the same thing for Bastions.
Also, both units are FA2. So you'll never run 3 units of Cinerators.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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