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Ok so i have the German half of open fire also have10 panzer4 a half-track platoon 2tigers a heavy mgplatoon. 82Mm mortar paltoon. now i still can't figure out what book i need so can field a rifle company and a tank company together

I just started as we'll, so I can't answer your question with the perfect answer. However if you go to easyarmy.com you can look through their companies, and build from there.

You probably want to look at a tank company with infantry as support platoons. Or vice versa (infantry with tank support). Usually the support for infantry or mech is light to medium tanks only.

I like to get one of the big books so i can find the rules for a lot of my stuff as i not shure how a lor of my stuff work. I want to run to company one infantry company. and one tank company but i still don't get how i can do that

Well, easy army can at least point you to which book might be the most useful.

Did find this on the FoW website:
http://www.flamesofwar.com/Portals/0/Documents/Briefings/17-SS-Panzergrenadierdivision.pdf

Might be a good start, didn't have any options for the tigers though.

An encyclopic and simple answer for you and every beginner.
You need:

1. Flames of War Open Fire - It's damn good value and contains full ruleset and two starter armies.

2. EasyArmy.com - You are forgiven if you are reluctant and think this is a dodgy site with .rips of Flames of War property, however its 100% legit and endorsed by the games lawful owners.

3. 15mm toys - Apart from that all you need are dice miniatures and suitable terrain, terrain is NOT an afterthought. Think as much about collecting enough suitable 15mm terrain as you do about your armies.

I just want a german codex for all the stats etc. I just been useing open fire for rules and points making up the rest of rules for stuff i don't know like german mg 42 teams i let each team roll 8 dice for shooting because of the rate of fire they can put out my 82mm mortars have a 60inch rang And get 4 attacks


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Also i don't like easy army as they charge you money for list you still need codex for

Battlegroup Kursk?

Thats the book id buy...

Is that. right codex to get

What you will need is one of the late war Intelligence briefing books for army lists and stats for your Germans Just beware that some of the books are allies only. so it's best to check

@ zika86.
Just use the German lists from the V3 Rules Forces Book that are free on easy Army .Com.
These are a good indicator on how all the other German lists are set out.(And include all the stats for the units you have, I think.)

Battle front have free PDF lists for more specific German forces.(Under Hobby then Briefings, Mid war & Late war ).

For just German forces Grey Wolf covers a wide range of German lists for the Eastern Front.And Atlantic Wall for D-day and Western Europe.

(Bridge By Bridge covers more specialized lists for forces defending against Operation Market Garden.)

Ok can use any late war list against any other one. me and my brother would like to do battles around market garden. As we will only be. play each other as ther is no players in Minnesota where we live


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Ok people i just want the german codex people i can't seem to find the right book for a list of all german units

zilka86 wrote:
Ok so i have the German half of open fire also have10 panzer4 a half-track platoon 2tigers a heavy mgplatoon. 82Mm mortar paltoon. now i still can't figure out what book i need so can field a rifle company and a tank company together

Let me see if I have your inventory correct:
2 platoons of grenadiers, command teams, and a panzershreck team
2 Pak40
3 StugIII
2 Tigers
10 PzIVs
4 MG42?
4 8cm mortars?
halftrack platoon? Is this with infantry teams also? A full Gepanzerte Panzergrenadier platoon?

You can use the following PDF briefings
Walkure Grenadier Infantry Co supported by either the Tigers or 5 Panzers, and the StuGs. Typically Eastern Front

Fuhrer Brigades with either a PanzerIV company or a Grenadier Company supported by PzIVs and Stugs, but no Tigers; Bulge era

Panzers to the Meuse for the PzIVs, Stugs and Infantry, but no Tigers Bulge era.

zilka86 wrote:

Ok people i just want the german codex people i can't seem to find the right book for a list of all german units

There isn't a German 'codex' that will give you a list for all German units. FoW's briefings are divided by front and era.

Go to Easy Army. Sign up. Look for the 'Flames of War v3 Forces' source under the New Companies tab. You will find a Grenadier company and two Panzerkompanies for free.

Big P wrote:
Battlegroup Kursk?

Thats the book id buy...

Hush, Piers, he's confused enough as it is!

Sorry... couldnt resist.

Let me see if I have your inventory correct:
2 platoons of grenadiers, command teams, and a panzershreck team
2 Pak40
3 StugIII
2 Tigers
10 PzIVs
4 MG42?
4 8cm mortars?
halftrack platoon? Is this with infantry teams also? A full Gepanzerte Panzergrenadier platoon?

You can use the following PDF briefings
Walkure Grenadier Infantry Co supported by either the Tigers or 5 Panzers, and the StuGs. Typically Eastern Front

Fuhrer Brigades with either a PanzerIV company or a Grenadier Company supported by PzIVs and Stugs, but no Tigers; Bulge era

Panzers to the Meuse for the PzIVs, Stugs and Infantry, but no Tigers Bulge era.

Yes i have ever thing you listed and yes i have the infantry halftrack guys

There are at least three books just for Germans - Atlantik wall (forces in Normandy) bridge by bridge (forces around market garden) and grey wolf (forces eastern front 1944-early 45).

There will be fortress Italy, (for Italy) next month. Also German and us lists are in Blood guts and glory, devils charge and Nuts ( these cover the Ardennes) and desperate measures is a German/Russian book for 1945.

So if you and your brother want to play market garden, go for 'bridge by bridge' but don't complain if all the units you have are not available, history does that to you!

Well zilka, since you already have the Normandy and Eastern Front books you must be half way set. Unless you sold your whole FoW collection like you did your 40k one in a fit of pique?

I really don't get why it so hard to let new players no what codex they need
i don't have any books because i can't figure out what book goes to what army
I wanted to do a early polish cavalry army but there's no polish books

Everybody here has given you the information you need. This isn't 40k and there isn't a single codex for each nation. That's not how this game works. You also don't need every book. Go to the store and go through their books to find a list you like, buy that book. Some of the books have lists for more than one nation, those have been pointed out above. You and your brother would then only need a single book.

A lot of the special rules are in the rule book as well, so you don't necessarily need the book with easyarmy. This is especially true for the free armies with the v3 rule book.

Finally if you want polish cavalry look at this book, blitzkrieg: http://www.flamesofwar.com/Default.aspx?tabid=109&art_id=2229

zilka86 wrote:
I really don't get why it so hard to let new players no what codex they need
i don't have any books because i can't figure out what book goes to what army
I wanted to do a early polish cavalry army but there's no polish books

We've told you everything you need to know. It's time to do a little of your own work in actually reading what we've said.

I go to a store if there was one around here. its funny how people always say go to the store for any table top or boerd game help there is no place in Minnesota the support any game


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Apologies for asking questions on how to find the codex i guess it really is a big deal trying to get help on get tge German codex so i know how to build my army and run it right

You don't have to apologize for asking the question, but it's quite clear you aren't reading the things we are posting to help you.

AndrasOtto already posted this intel briefing (Intel Briefings are the FoW equivalent of a 40k codex): http://www.flamesofwar.com/Portals/0/Documents/Briefings/Walkurekompanie.pdf

I went through it, it lists special rules, and the special rules for all the units are ALL in the rule book, thus you do not need to purchase an additional book to play. If you can't find them in the rule book, check the index for page number.

But you said you did have books in your last barely coherent thread on almost this exact same topic...


http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/535546.page

It really is so hard for people just to till you what you need that goes for any table top game

@Zilka86, you complain to much. They have literally answered every question you have had. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.

 motyak wrote:
But you said you did have books in your last barely coherent thread on almost this exact same topic...


http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/535546.page

I think the OP is a troll

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/535546.page

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/577396.page

This topic/line of questioning has come up before and many of the good users of the forums have answered all of his questions

Oh yes, he's a plague for several other subforums as well. I tend to be more blunt in my criticism of him than I was in this thread.