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As I’m sure you can guess by the name, I’m an Imperial Guard player looking to take some Inquisition allies into my army. Originally I just wanted to toss in some cheap Divination psykers into my list but as I look closer I am really starting to see a lot of potential in taking much more from the Inquisition Codex. I was curious as to what combos some of you have seen or used to great effect. For some reason I am actually leaning towards removing all my IG troop choices from my list and instead taking Inquisition Elites as my only troops using Coteaz’s special rule. I just feel like the IG troop choices pale in comparison to that of the Inquisition and I really want to combine the full strengths of each army. What are your thoughts guys?

I agree. The inquisition's troops via Corteaz are indeed very good and generally out-do guardsmen in most things. Also adds a bit of flavour into your list as mechvet spam gets very boring. However even if you take inquisition as your primary detatchment, you still would need to take at least one IG troop's choise. However if you really don't like the IG troops and just want pure armour then you can take an armoured company list.

Just have some cheap penal legionnaires outflanking to capture objectives. Im not sure Inquisition can be primary unless solo so that may be an issue.
You going shooty or assaulty?


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Armoured company sounds like your best bet ^.

Inquisition can easily go primary. It works great for old mech IG players. 6 Chimeras with 3 melta guns/plasma guns in each one +whatever other dakka units you feel like. As an IG player I can live with the limited force org of being an allied detachment.

Ah I must have misread the rules for the Inquisitorial detachment. That is good to know... makes them even more effective :-)!

I definitely want to go more shooty, but reserve the ability to move up and contest or take objectives. Also, the Inquisition can go primary but acts a normal army (loses the Inquisitorial Detachment rule) so you can still take IG as an allied detachment. Although, I was aiming to keep IG as my Primary as I really like their heavy supports and fliers but don’t want to make only single squads and then take Inquisition as an inquisitorial detachment. If I take Coteaz, that still allows my Codex: Inquisition elites to score because of ‘Lord of Formosa’.

To be clearer, I was thinking of ways to take my IG shooty, mech army and add in Inquisition to bolster them. However, I had in fact misread the Inquisitorial Detachment rule a bit at first. If I took IG as my primary, I would still have to bring two troops from my Codex: IG.

My lists

1,500 Chimera
Primary inquisition
Coteaz
3 mm servitors, 2 plasmaguns 1 bolter in a Chimera with a searchlight
4 psykers, 3 plasmaguns, 1 storm bolter, in a Chimera with a searchlight
4 psykers, 3 plasmaguns, 1 storm bolter, in a Chimera with a searchlight
4 psykers, 3 plasmaguns, 1 storm bolter, in a Chimera with a searchlight
3 plasmaguns 1 strom bolter and 8 boltguns on foot.
3 plasmaguns and 9 boltguns on foot.

IG allies
CCS with 4 melta guns in a Chimera (searchlight free)
PCS with 4 flamers in a Chimera (searchlight free)
Infantry squad
Infantry squad
Marbo
1 Vendetta an infantry squad rides in it for objective based games
1 Griffon
Aegis Wall



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1750 List upgrades highlighted

Primary inquisition
Coteaz
Inquisitor lvl 1 psyker with 3 servo skulls
3 mm servitors, 2 plasmaguns 1 Jokoro 2 bolter in a Chimera with a searchlight
4 psykers, 3 plasmaguns, 1 bolter, in a Chimera with a searchlight
4 psykers, 3 plasmaguns, 1 bolter, in a Chimera with a searchlight
4 psykers, 3 plasmaguns, 1 bolter, in a Chimera with a searchlight
3 plasmaguns 1 Jokoro 1 strom bolter and 8 boltguns on foot.
3 plasmaguns1 Jokoro 1strom bolter and 8 boltguns on foot.

IG allies
CCS with 4 melta guns in a Chimera (searchlight free)
PCS with 4 flamers in a Chimera (searchlight free)
Infantry squad with an AC
Infantry squad
Marbo
1 Vendetta an infantry squad rides in it for objective based games
1 Manticore
Aegis Wall

Woh hang on Primary or not you are still stuck with 2 hq 3 elite. You cant have 6 separate units.

Well if you want shooty IG I dont think theres anything that could spam more shooting than using blobs and single infantry squads and spamming as many lascannons and autocannons as you can. An inquisitor buffing a shooty blob making them twinlinked can bring a lot of firepower and can kill many targets with weight of fire.

Manticores are pretty nice when twinlinked which is almost a must for me when I run an inquisitor.

Yep unless its dual force org... and you need 2k pts for that!

 tankboy145 wrote:
Well if you want shooty IG I dont think theres anything that could spam more shooting than using blobs and single infantry squads and spamming as many lascannons and autocannons as you can. An inquisitor buffing a shooty blob making them twinlinked can bring a lot of firepower and can kill many targets with weight of fire.

Manticores are pretty nice when twinlinked which is almost a must for me when I run an inquisitor.

I think thats the most hilarious thing to do.

Giant blob with lord commissar for fearless with grenade inquisitor + divination(+the scout relic) and coteaz with hammer hand scouting then walking up field, lock multiple units in combat then proceed to drown your enemies in bodies (that are hopefuly +1 st, enemy -1 t, several different effects from psyco grenades and stubborn/fearless.

Or also get cypher and infiltrate the lot... if you cant infiltrate the ICs with them (can you?) Then just pop them in a rhino with some acolyte wound sponges to catch up.

 Desubot wrote:
Woh hang on Primary or not you are still stuck with 2 hq 3 elite. You cant have 6 separate units.

Actually he can take 2 HQ's and 6 Elites with Inquisition under 2k points but he has to take Inquisition as Primary and a second Inquisition as allies. However, he can't then take Guard as an additional allied detachment due to the Inquisitorial Detachment rule since he took Inquisition as his primary and therefor lost his ability to take a second allied detachment (IG). So yes schadenfreude’s lists are technically illegal since he took IG as well. He would have to pick IG or another Inquisition as his allies but he can’t have both.

Ahhh if that is the case then he can as inquisitors do not count as the allied detachment. But rather a seperate detachment that doesn't take up the allies slot (it explains it in the inquisition dex). It will mean that 3 of the units (the ones without coatez) are not scoring however.


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It is how I have managed to build an imperial fists, dkok and inquisitor list.

Poly Ranger wrote:
Ahhh if that is the case then he can as inquisitors do not count as the allied detachment. But rather a seperate detachment that doesn't take up the allies slot (it explains it in the inquisition dex). It will mean that 3 of the units (the ones without coatez) are not scoring however.


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It is how I have managed to build an imperial fists, dkok and inquisitor list.

Well he can only take an Inquisitorial Detachment as allies in addition to another allied detachment if he has NOT taken Inquisition as Primary. The moment you take Inquisition as primary you can only take 1 allied detachment, be it IG or another Inquisition in this case. He can't take both.


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I really don't want to get off topic with discussions such as the allied chart though. I am planning on bringing IG as my Primary with Inquisitor allies. The main goal of the thread is to share information about some power combos that can be made between the two armies, while maintaining an overall theme of shooty, mech/tank IG. For example, I really want to bring Coteaz but I am unsure how to best utilize him. I am not sure if I want him sitting back with a blast template unit for his 'I've Been Expecting You' rule or if I want him in a blob or other forward moving unit.

I thought you meant he was taking inquisition from grey knights as primary? That would mean GK primary not inquisition right? I don't own the GK dex so don't know if just taking inquisition units changes the type of army. Or even if you get the same options.
Anyhow I'm not sure if he could do straight inquisition-inquisition as armies generally cannot ally with themselves.


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Sorry only just saw the appended part.

I specifically states in their codex that they can since Inquisition is listed in their battle brothers section below for allies. They are unlike the rest of the 40k Armies in that regard. Unless that was a typo, but I havn't seen anything disputing that.

Dekken442 wrote:
I specifically states in their codex that they can since Inquisition is listed in their battle brothers section below for allies. They are unlike the rest of the 40k Armies in that regard. Unless that was a typo, but I havn't seen anything disputing that.

No, on page 71 it says there are two ways to take an inquisition list, either as primary or an allied inquisitorial detachment, so its either primary or allied in, not both.

Oh ok, that makes sense. I just got confused by the alliy chart ion the Inquisition Codex. They really shouldn't have themselves listed underneath. It's very misleading. But it still would be possibly to take the list I suppose since you can take all that stuff from grey knights. It's just that only the grey knights Inq can score.

Actually it's my older grey knights lists, and I would need to split it into inquisition, gk, and IG to update it for codex inquisition. Glad I'm running IG primary for LVO.

Warrior Acolytes with special weapons in Psymera's are absurd bargains for what you get, but in an inquisitorial detachment you have to weigh up the fact that they're not scoring like your Mech Vets. - That said, taking 2 Psymera squads over a single Mech Vet squad roughly in some places can be a good investment.

Servitors are overlooked - in Codex Inquisition they're quite well priced as the model itself is so cheap it may as well be free- you're paying for the gun. Paying 30 points for a unit that can walk alongside some advancing elements and throw 3 Multi-Melta shots down a lane or some reasonably priced HB fire -even as mediocre as they are, 30 points for 9 S5 shots at BS3 is undeniably good.

If you're using the sort of Inquisitor that sits behind the lines and buffs your tanks/artillery, then mindlock isn't a problem as he can just sit with them.

The Jokaero is a bit of a mixed bag. It's quite expensive, IG have better ways of gathering Lascannons (need I even mention the name of the craft) and AT (the HF isn't going to be in range probably) and the buffs aren't anything fantastic so much so that the investment seems necessary.

I reckon a xenos inqusitor is a good addition to the blob giving hammer hand and Coteaz rolls on th divination table and sits back buffing things with Prescience and 1 pther (hope for ingores cover). Coteaz will make warbands scoring so no need to replac mech vets for a non scoring unit.

If you want more divination bunnies you could always bring SW allies (2hqs in one slot) and a droppod squad of grey hunters.

D

 Mr.Omega wrote:
Warrior Acolytes with special weapons in Psymera's are absurd bargains for what you get, but in an inquisitorial detachment you have to weigh up the fact that they're not scoring like your Mech Vets. - That said, taking 2 Psymera squads over a single Mech Vet squad roughly in some places can be a good investment.

Servitors are overlooked - in Codex Inquisition they're quite well priced as the model itself is so cheap it may as well be free- you're paying for the gun. Paying 30 points for a unit that can walk alongside some advancing elements and throw 3 Multi-Melta shots down a lane or some reasonably priced HB fire -even as mediocre as they are, 30 points for 9 S5 shots at BS3 is undeniably good.

If you're using the sort of Inquisitor that sits behind the lines and buffs your tanks/artillery, then mindlock isn't a problem as he can just sit with them.

The Jokaero is a bit of a mixed bag. It's quite expensive, IG have better ways of gathering Lascannons (need I even mention the name of the craft) and AT (the HF isn't going to be in range probably) and the buffs aren't anything fantastic so much so that the investment seems necessary.

Actually ther are scoring units if you take Coteaz due to his special rule Lord Of Fomorsa, which reads "If an Inquistorial detachment includes Inquisitor Coteaz, all units of Inquisitorial Henchmen Warbands in the same detachment are
scoring units, even if they are not from your primary detachment." So you may want to consider taking some warbands intended for scoring. They have some survivable options that can sit in cover all day.

2 minor flaws of the inquisition book are Chimera/Razorbacks/Rhinos can’t take spotlights, and Razorbacks/Chimera can’t take psybolt

Here's my current LVO lists where I am trying to decide on the last few points.

IG primary
Lord Commissar warlord
Quad melta CCS in a chimera
Infantry platoon
Quad flamer PCS on foot or in vendetta.
Infantry squad on foot or in vendetta if the PCS is on foot
Infantry squad on foot
2 Sabers extra crew
2 Sabers extra crew
Melta vets in a Chimera
Vendetta will carry PCS or infantry squad.
3 earth shakers
2 thudd guns
1 heavy mortar
Aegis

Inquisition
Coteaz
Inquisitor, psyker, 3 servo skulls

Option A 1,749
Give the lord commissar melta bombs.
3 plasma and 9bolters henchmen on foot
3 plasma, 1 storm bolter, and 8 bolter henchmen on foot
3 plasma 2 bolters in a chimera

Option B 1,750
Give the company commander a bolt pistol.
3 plasma, 3 mm servitors, and 6 bolters on foot
3 plasma, 4 psykers, and 5 bolters on foot
3 plasma and 8 bolters on foot.

I think I'm going to go with option B. The inability to buy a spotlight is what's driving my decision.

"2 minor flaws of the inquisition book are Chimera/Razorbacks/Rhinos can’t take spotlights, and Razorbacks/Chimera can’t take psybolt "

You sure about that?

they can take items from the inquisitorial vehicle equipment list which have psybolt ammo, and searchlights.

The only thing that cannot take it is the valk.

Ow found it page 112 and 121.

112 allows searchlights. 121 gives prices for psybolt and searchlights. Looks light searchlights are good to go. Psybolt still seems questionable, but it would be awesome chimera.

Inquisitors upgraded with pysker and 3 servo skulls are super cheap around 64 points if I recall (and stubborn if you run 30-50 infantry blobs).

taking a mix of inquisition psykers and 3 special weapon acolytes can work really well with chimeras (since the psykers just need 1 person to fire the blast template, which can get up to str 10 ap 2 - even not maxed taking 4-5 for medium str blasts can keep cost down and still threaten most infantry on a 2-3+).

INQUISITORIAL VEHICLE EQUIPMENT
Searchlight - pt
Dozer blade - pts
Psybolt ammunition - pts
Hunter-killer missile - pts
Storm bolter - pts
Truesilver armour - pts
Extra armour - pts

RHINO
Options:
Rhinos may take items from the Inquisitorial Vehicle Equipment list

RAZORBACK
Options:
.....
Razorbacks may take items from the Inquisitorial Vehicle Equipment list

CHIMERA
Options:
.....
Chimeras may take items from the Inquisitorial Vehicle Equipment list

VALKYRIE
Options:
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im not entirely sure how its questionable.

Dekken442 wrote:

Actually ther are scoring units if you take Coteaz due to his special rule Lord Of Fomorsa, which reads "If an Inquistorial detachment includes Inquisitor Coteaz, all units of Inquisitorial Henchmen Warbands in the same detachment are
scoring units, even if they are not from your primary detachment." So you may want to consider taking some warbands intended for scoring. They have some survivable options that can sit in cover all day.

Henchmen are scoring as long as the detachment is your primary. Reference page 126 of C:=][=.

Another consideration for inquisitors is the Xeno one can have rad grenades and psk out grenades which can make a blob squad or others really deadly in close combat. Another consideration is Liber Heratis gives scout, meaning you can outflank that blob squad, then next turn give it fear or hatred.