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Hey I have a few questions regarding the SM chapter masters Orbital bombardment.

Due to Ordnance. Can he move on a turn he uses it?
Can he fire it from inside a vehicle? As barrage require
no LoS. Even if it has no firepoints? Can the vehicle move if he fires it?

Hope these questions aren't too dumb but I can't figure out the part if je can fire it from a vehicle like a razorback, for example.

 centuryslayer wrote:
Hey I have a few questions regarding the SM chapter masters Orbital bombardment.

Due to Ordnance. Can he move on a turn he uses it?
Can he fire it from inside a vehicle? As barrage require
no LoS. Even if it has no firepoints? Can the vehicle move if he fires it?

Hope these questions aren't too dumb but I can't figure out the part if je can fire it from a vehicle like a razorback, for example.

It's a shooting attack. What does your book say about shooting attacks?

well, Orbital bombardment has infinite range and require no LoS. What part about shooting helps to clarify if it can be fired from inside a vehicle?

Iirc the codex says he must remain stationary. So he wouldn't be able to use this on a turn he deep strikes etc.

No idea on the others.

No, but it is Ordnance, so unless the model gains Relentless or Slow and Purposeful (like when mounted on a Space Marine bike), he has to remain stationary.

As for firing from a vehicle, even if it does not require LoS due to Barrage, you don't have permission to ignore the requirement for a Fire Point.

I see, thanks for clearing that up!

 Redemption wrote:
No, but it is Ordnance, so unless the model gains Relentless or Slow and Purposeful (like when mounted on a Space Marine bike), he has to remain stationary.

As for firing from a vehicle, even if it does not require LoS due to Barrage, you don't have permission to ignore the requirement for a Fire Point.

Why would a model need a fire point if it doesn't require LOS?

 TheHogweed wrote:

 Redemption wrote:
No, but it is Ordnance, so unless the model gains Relentless or Slow and Purposeful (like when mounted on a Space Marine bike), he has to remain stationary.

As for firing from a vehicle, even if it does not require LoS due to Barrage, you don't have permission to ignore the requirement for a Fire Point.

Why would a model need a fire point if it doesn't require LOS?

Because the transport rules require it.

rigeld2 wrote:

 TheHogweed wrote:

 Redemption wrote:
No, but it is Ordnance, so unless the model gains Relentless or Slow and Purposeful (like when mounted on a Space Marine bike), he has to remain stationary.

As for firing from a vehicle, even if it does not require LoS due to Barrage, you don't have permission to ignore the requirement for a Fire Point.

Why would a model need a fire point if it doesn't require LOS?

Because the transport rules require it.

Where does it say that? I'm looking at pg 78 in the BRB but I don't see where it says you have to have one for a Barrage weapon.

Find permission to fire a weapon without using a firing point.

I'll wait.

rigeld2 wrote:
Find permission to fire a weapon without using a firing point.

I'll wait.

It's on page 34. Under Barrage. "This means they can fire at a target that they do not have line of sight to..."

 TheHogweed wrote:

rigeld2 wrote:
Find permission to fire a weapon without using a firing point.

I'll wait.

It's on page 34. Under Barrage. "This means they can fire at a target that they do not have line of sight to..."

You misunderstood.
Find permission for an embarked model to fire. You are not allowed to use the Fire Points section of the rules to do so as you've said they aren't needed.

rigeld2 wrote:

 TheHogweed wrote:

rigeld2 wrote:
Find permission to fire a weapon without using a firing point.

I'll wait.

It's on page 34. Under Barrage. "This means they can fire at a target that they do not have line of sight to..."

You misunderstood.
Find permission for an embarked model to fire. You are not allowed to use the Fire Points section of the rules to do so as you've said they aren't needed.

Ah. I see what you mean now. The latter half of the bolded sentence forbids it.

Wich is too bad, because now I'd have to get out, stand still for another turn, and then fire xD

Oh well.

Or just mount him on a bike, that way you can do drive-by shooting as he'll be Relentless.

Or put him in a land raider with a centurion squad. Slow and Purposeful confers to the whole unit.

 Icculus wrote:
Or put him in a land raider with a centurion squad. Slow and Purposeful confers to the whole unit.

And how many Fire Points does a Land Raider have again?

 djdarknoise wrote:

 centuryslayer wrote:
Hey I have a few questions regarding the SM chapter masters Orbital bombardment.

Due to Ordnance. Can he move on a turn he uses it?
Can he fire it from inside a vehicle? As barrage require
no LoS. Even if it has no firepoints? Can the vehicle move if he fires it?

Hope these questions aren't too dumb but I can't figure out the part if je can fire it from a vehicle like a razorback, for example.

It's a shooting attack. What does your book say about shooting attacks?

Worst YMDC Response Ever.

 grendel083 wrote:

 Icculus wrote:
Or put him in a land raider with a centurion squad. Slow and Purposeful confers to the whole unit.

And how many Fire Points does a Land Raider have again?

None but at least you can disembark and shoot at te same time. Better than foot slogging

Giving him Terminator armour would work too. But that would mean replacing his badass model :/

are assault centurions any good? they would bring majority toughness, giving me a t5 chapter master on foot

Let's not forget though, the entry in the codex says (not word for word), on a turn in which the captain / CM remains stationary, he can call in an orbital bombardment.

It doesn't make any mention of S&P / relentless overcoming this; it seems more a fact of the attack itself, according to the wording in the book.

Oh, nice catch!

how hard can it be to tell someone to drop a bomb somewhere xDDD

 kitch102 wrote:
Let's not forget though, the entry in the codex says (not word for word), on a turn in which the captain / CM remains stationary, he can call in an orbital bombardment.

Except it does not say that. The exact rule is:

"Once per game, a Chapter Master may call down an orbital bombardment in his Shooting phase. This counts as firing a ranged weapon with the profile below. This does not prevent the Chapter Master and his unit from declaring a charge against the target unit that turn."

So it simply counts as firing an Ordnance Barrage weapon, with the usual benefits and restrictions (except not being able to charge that turn).

 kitch102 wrote:
Let's not forget though, the entry in the codex says (not word for word), on a turn in which the captain / CM remains stationary, he can call in an orbital bombardment.

It doesn't make any mention of S&P / relentless overcoming this; it seems more a fact of the attack itself, according to the wording in the book.

Not all Orbital Bombardments are created equal. The C:SM one does not have this restriction.