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When ever i make my base with sand and then paint it, my models never want to stick to it. If i glue my models to the base first then to me it looks like the sand if above there feet which bugs me. How do i get my models to stick to the sand. I have tried super gluing them and for some reason still doesn't work.

Pinning. Basically take a paperclip, drill holes through the base and feet, and clip away. A dab of epoxy to where it's pinned and that guy won't ever dare stray from his base ever again.

You could try using a tiny ball of GS under the feet. Super glue that to the base and the feet. It should hold it just a little bit off the base, high enough to put sand on the base without it looking like the model is sinking

TestButton wrote:
When ever i make my base with sand and then paint it, my models never want to stick to it. If i glue my models to the base first then to me it looks like the sand if above there feet which bugs me. How do i get my models to stick to the sand. I have tried super gluing them and for some reason still doesn't work.

Glue down the model first and use less chunky sand?

TestButton wrote:
When ever i make my base with sand and then paint it, my models never want to stick to it. If i glue my models to the base first then to me it looks like the sand if above there feet which bugs me. How do i get my models to stick to the sand. I have tried super gluing them and for some reason still doesn't work.

Just glue the mini to the base before you sand it. My opinion.

LOL I love how this thread spiraled into madness only a few posts within.

When I base my Steel Legion, I attach everything to the base first, and do a thickish PVA layer. Shake the excess sand off several times and in a few days it will be like a rock.

Ever stood on sand? Your weight compacts the sand and your feet end up a little below the surrounding sand's surface. Now imagine what the weight of a SM/Ork/SoB/Warrior would do. I think the look you dislike is probably more realistic looking.

If you still want the model to look like it is just standing on top of it the pinning or adding a small plasticard spacer where the feet will be and just not basing that so you can glue your mini there.

I have removed the off-topic chatter. How about we stick to the actual question asked?

Have you considered basing with the new GW texture paints?

Eldercaveman wrote:
Have you considered basing with the new GW texture paints?

:/ I hope he hasnt ! hehe - far too expensive for what it is. Try Liquitex or W&N or Vallejo textured acrylic mediums for a much better value for moeny. Most of them are clear and can be mixed with whatever colour you like, and come in a variety of textures.

I certainly can't advise you to buy citadel textured paint in 12ml portions when you could have half a liter for the price of a couple of pots of the citadel.

Greetins!
Here's a general tip/trick that might help: Models will always have a harder time being glued together if their is already a layer of paint
So with that in mind, there's a few options.
1) Glue the mini on first. Sand second. (It sounds like you have tried this and don't like it, no worries. We are all entitled to our own opinion)
2) Raise the model off of the base with green stuff, plasticard, or some other medium. The trick is making sure the sand is high enough to cover this 'raised base')
3) Drill holes in the feet of your models and the bases. Use something, preferably a paperclip, to hold them together. Take super-glue, liquid cement, or whatever have you, and go to town.)

In my opinion:
1) The easiest option.
2) Not too difficult. Just hard to make sure the model doesn't appear too high off the sand. Unless your model is going for that look. (I.E. standing on some sort of wreckage left in a desert biome.)
3) The hardest and most difficult to achieve. Drilling holes is honestly obnoxious. Least preferred option and highest chance for screwing up.


Whatever have you, do not, DO NOT! put your models on top of preexisting sand without some sort of further support. They will break every time and frustration will ensue.


Glad to help and happy wargaming,
-Noremac

For my models I glue a small piece of plasticard to their feet before painting. Then glue them to the base after painting. It avoids that sunken look. and they dont fall off either.

Easy win.

I don't mind the sunken look, personally. It's what normally happens if you go on soft sand.

 PrehistoricUFO wrote:
LOL I love how this thread spiraled into madness only a few posts within.

When I base my Steel Legion, I attach everything to the base first, and do a thickish PVA layer. Shake the excess sand off several times and in a few days it will be like a rock.

This community is excellent at overlooking things in your post and then criticizing you on it. I made a post about trying to repair a damaged needle and some bonehead comes in and says "your needle is damaged because you sanded it". I specifically stated in the original post that the needle was ALREADY damaged. Go figure.

Pinning is a great method. Not to mention that if the mini doesn't look right on the base all you have to do is bend the pins straight and start over. This guy does it in almost all of his painting videos.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Buypainted