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 Engine of War wrote:
I've heard estimates of 190mm tall (with wraithknights at 230mm, and warhounds at 270mm) from comparing it to the Trigon (or whatever that bug is) which is said to be 150mm tall depending on the pose.

So roughly 7.5 inches tall for the Knight with the wraithknight being held a 9 inch. So that's not that bad. Big bulky of course but 7.5 inches sound right with the description I keep hearing of a Knight being "between a Riptide and Wraithknight".

Best guess is they stand on the same base as the WK, which is the flyer base.

We have been hearing that the size is "over 150mm", which in GW speak usually means "just over 150mm". If it was 7.5", they would be saying "over 190mm".

Based on scaling the photos we have seen, the base has to be the Mumak base (7" x 5.5"/180 x 140mm). If it were on a WK/flyer 120mm base the knight would be under 5" tall. See my post on page 35 for a scaled pic with the base 7" long and print it out. If its on a 7" Mumak base, the knight is just over 6" tall.

T

The Knight will be 15 CM, or just a wee bit under 6"

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Vash108 wrote:
Where is my Chaos stuff?

GW doesn't love you, get over it.

You're worse than John Cusack with a boombox.

I will never get over it! GW WILL LOVE ME AGAIN.

GIVE ME CHAOS KNIGHT TITANS!

 Zweischneid wrote:

 carlos13th wrote:
You can pick it up from wayland games for about £78 or $130

http://www.waylandgames.co.uk/dreamforge-games/leviathan-crusader/prod_19888.html

Didn't I just link Wayland above?

DF Leviathan is RRP USD 157,55 on Wayland, or 126ish after Wayland discount. Or GBP 95,- RRP, 76 after discount
GW Knight will be RRP USD 140,- on Wayland, or 112 to 119ish after Wayland discount (ya know, just like the Baneblade). Or GBP 85,- RRP, 72,50 after discount

GW Knight wins.

Didnt notice your link. Also wasn't trying to argue anything, just posting up a price.


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 Vash108 wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:
Posted on faeit212: Next week's releases

More Space Marine? Where is my Chaos stuff?

is that $20 for transfers? That seems very expensive.

Guys since im not familiar with the escalation rules i want to ask something that has not been mentioned as far as i know.
The Knight is a SH walker right? Since its a walker doesnt that mean that it can be repaired? Am i missing something?
Are SH not repaired like regular walkers? Because if that is the case allying a Knight to a SM army with IH CT and a MotF(or 2)
and some servitors... maybe... will be well... great!!! It potentially doubles its survaivability right? I must be missing something...
please do let me know. Thanx in advance!

Someone on BOLS has done some image comparison and says it looks like knights actually have new bases.

You can do all the jethro hillbilly figurin' and numbers ciphering you want.... It was clearly stated "...about an inch less than the wraithknight ..." And that wk is 9" tall... So the imp knight must be a min 7.5" to 8" tall.... Depending on configuration....The epicast 28mm was 8" to 9" tall... Over at warseer someone took an epic Titan and epic knight and looked at height of 28mm Titan and did the math and figured 8" for a 28mm knight...

Mail sent to the stores states 15cm though.

 bu11etmagn3tt wrote:
You can do all the jethro hillbilly figurin' and numbers ciphering you want.... It was clearly stated "...about an inch less than the wraithknight ..." And that wk is 9" tall... So the ok must be a min 7.5" to 8" tall.... Depending on configuration....The epicast 28mm was 8" to 9" tall... Over at warseer someone took an epic Titan and epic knight and looked at height of 28mm Titan and did the math and figured 8" for a 28mm knight...

Where has this been "clearly stated?"

I'm trying to keep the OP up to date, and I haven't seen this.

Equally, you can't take any sense of logic about scale and transfer it to GW models, they just don't roll that way.

There is a pic of new imp knight next to eldar avatar that is 4.5" tall.... Someone with time on there hands needs to get pic of ruler in between them making sure avatar top is at 4.5....

 RiTides wrote:
Any speculation as to when the book will hit, and if it will be a physical book rather than digital? I'm surprised they're putting out the knight and the IG 'dex the same weekend... hoping to get people to buy the knight and then be on the hook for getting the rules later, I guess?

Do we still think the IG codex is a March release? It's got to be April, at this point. No way GW would try to shoehorn two huge releases like this into the same weekend, or even month.

 tomjoad wrote:

 RiTides wrote:
Any speculation as to when the book will hit, and if it will be a physical book rather than digital? I'm surprised they're putting out the knight and the IG 'dex the same weekend... hoping to get people to buy the knight and then be on the hook for getting the rules later, I guess?

Do we still think the IG codex is a March release? It's got to be April, at this point. No way GW would try to shoehorn two huge releases like this into the same weekend, or even month.

It's one kit, it just happens to be a highly anticipated one which has garnered an enthusiastic reception because it is made from awesominium

With the new weekly release cycle, we really can't call what will be month X or Y now, because GW can be totally flexible week to week. Frankly, they could have the next 2 months new stuff sat in their distribution centres, and almost decide week to week what to send out if they felt like it.

 bu11etmagn3tt wrote:
There is a pic of new imp knight next to eldar avatar that is 4.5" tall.... Someone with time on there hands needs to get pic of ruler in between them making sure avatar top is at 4.5....

the avatar in the pic is the FW avatar i do believe

 bu11etmagn3tt wrote:
There is a pic of new imp knight next to eldar avatar that is 4.5" tall.... Someone with time on there hands needs to get pic of ruler in between them making sure avatar top is at 4.5....

No way the Knight is over 6" based on that picture. I think 15cm will hold up.

 bu11etmagn3tt wrote:
There is a pic of new imp knight next to eldar avatar that is 4.5" tall.... Someone with time on there hands needs to get pic of ruler in between them making sure avatar top is at 4.5....

If you will it dude, it is no dream.

 bu11etmagn3tt wrote:
You can do all the jethro hillbilly figurin' and numbers ciphering you want.... It was clearly stated "...about an inch less than the wraithknight ..." And that wk is 9" tall... So the imp knight must be a min 7.5" to 8" tall.... Depending on configuration....The epicast 28mm was 8" to 9" tall...

Epicast 28mm Knight was less than 6" tall, probably closer to 5.5" tall. I had one.
Most gamers seem to estimate model heights the same optimistic way they estimate the lengths of that specifically male appendage.

Here is a Trygon (5 3/8") tall next to an 6.5" tall Armorcast Towering Destroyer Knight. Note that the head of the Trygon is at chest height to the knight. Note in the WD Trygon/knight pic that the Imperial Knight has its head in its chest and that the Trygons head is the same height as the Imperial Knights head. No way the new Knight is any taller than the Eldar Knight in this photo.

When we were figuring the heights of various models for Armorcast the Imperial knight Paladin came in at 6". The Wraithknight scales up perfectly from the Epic Fire Gale, as does the Armorcast Towering Destroyer. See bottom pic.

 plastictrees wrote:

 bu11etmagn3tt wrote:
There is a pic of new imp knight next to eldar avatar that is 4.5" tall.... Someone with time on there hands needs to get pic of ruler in between them making sure avatar top is at 4.5....

No way the Knight is over 6" based on that picture. I think 15cm will hold up.

I see I was ninja'd.... 6" it is.


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sweet! I can use my lost planet 2 fig I have.... same height!

Anyway... now the Knight comes at the start of next month... does it mean the IG will be the month after that? If so the rumored kits from past weeks might come in the weeks in between?(Like the Chaos Chosen kit that went around in the rumor threads.) I have no idea.

If we all wait 2 weeks we'll know for sure how tall the ruddy things are.

overtyrant wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Aren't the 15mm DF models the ones that are the right size, not the 28mm? And those are only $50.

I believe they are 4.7 inch, so with a bulky base it should be good to go.

DF also released a limited edition 5.5" tall resin version. Mine should work well for a knight using the extra weapons from the GW kit...

T

 bubber wrote:
If we all wait 2 weeks we'll know for sure how tall the ruddy things are.

Don't you DARE try to stifle our pointless circular conversation!
This is the most on topic GW related News and Rumors thread right now...

15mm DF is 4.6" & $33 on their sight....they have pic of 28mm mini next to one. Perfect!


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http://dreamforge-games.com/products/1-100-15mm-scale-leviathan-crusader

timd wrote:

overtyrant wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Aren't the 15mm DF models the ones that are the right size, not the 28mm? And those are only $50.

I believe they are 4.7 inch, so with a bulky base it should be good to go.

DF also released a limited edition 5.5" tall resin version. Mine should work well for a knight using the extra weapons from the GW kit...

T

They did indeed, and I had a bunch! Still have 4 . However, I don't think I'll ever field more than one knight, so will use GW's. Hoping to model my 15mm Leviathans slightly lower and use them as tall Ironclads to go with the big GW kit . Should look pretty sweet!

 Ravenous D wrote:
...and another $10 for the 15" template that you have to use when it dies.

The what now?

Just to refer back to the discussion about decals earlier, there are companies that make sheets of decals with Heraldic Imagery for historical knights etc..

I personally plan to source some of these, because I'm a special snowflake and my knight(s) won't be rocking the same devices as every other pleb!

People have my permission to use this idea, on the understanding that I will petulantly drop kick your model across the room if I ever see it IRL and it has the same ones as mine!

 Ravenous D wrote:

Goresaw wrote:
I don't see why people think $140 for these things is okay. Unless everyone is scaling this thing completely wrong, its only a little taller than a trygon. Its really not that big. When you compare a stomper, which is massive at 115, this thing is an absolute rip off.

Same was said about the riptide being $100 and the wraithknight being $140 but they became part of most peoples collections. If this thing manages to break past the super heavy bans then it'll be a regular staple. And if it can allied in with tau or eldar you are going to see some of the stupidest combinations this game has ever seen.

I only bought my Riptide because there was a 30% discount. The idea of spending more than £50 on a model is just insane, I'm hoping a lot of people did the same. Wayland games were out of stock for a good while after on Tau goods

 insaniak wrote:

 Ravenous D wrote:
...and another $10 for the 15" template that you have to use when it dies.

The what now?

As a superheavy, when it dies, you have to use that big huge template to determine who gets hit by the massive explosion.

 azreal13 wrote:

ncshooter426 wrote:
How... how can a 6" walker cost more than a baneblade?

Aside from the fact it apparently costs the same, kit pricing is less to do with the overall size of the finished model and more to do with the number of sprues, and consequently the number of moulds that need to be developed.

While the Knight isn't as bulky as the Baneblade! it might require multiple sprues in order to work, then factor in that GW are now introducing their price rises on a launch by launch basis rather than once a year, and here we are, likely fewer sprues but incorporating a price rise = same price.

The problem there is that is actually a sensible way of pricing a model kit, but GW instead just likes to throw a dart at the wall to see what price tag they hit with it.

15cm and 140$? around 13500yen in Japan, and the DFG is 75$ now on their site, will wait for ebay.

The idea of anything in this hobby being a 'rip off' is ridiculous. It either has value to you equal to the cost and you buy it, or it doesn't and you don't.

I will be buying thirty of them and dressing my eldest son up as their leader.

BakAG wrote:
Guys since im not familiar with the escalation rules i want to ask something that has not been mentioned as far as i know.
The Knight is a SH walker right? Since its a walker doesnt that mean that it can be repaired? Am i missing something?
Are SH not repaired like regular walkers? Because if that is the case allying a Knight to a SM army with IH CT and a MotF(or 2)
and some servitors... maybe... will be well... great!!! It potentially doubles its survaivability right? I must be missing something...
please do let me know. Thanx in advance!

I like that idea because I run two MOTF and a tech marine in my army. I usually never get to repair anything because vehicles just go pop, but this just might work.