Imperial Knights - Codex Preview Video 03/03 - Gasp! Probably worth watching!

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**bodazoka**

This is how I sum up the 90% of the last 50 posts..

"Ermagherd the price *heavy breath"
... doesn't play an army that can ally the knight, buy's one anyway

"Ermagherd the price *heavy breath"
... Buy's 3 of them

"Ermagherd the price *heavy breath"
... Play's warmachine

**Alpharius**

It was rather amusing watching bu11etmagn3tt live up to his username though!

**Nightlord1987**

Pacific Rim 40,000.

I would consider one down the line if Chaos can ally them.

Now whose waiting for an all flyer army next?

**insaniak**

Tannhauser42 wrote:
As a superheavy, when it dies, you have to use that big huge template to determine who gets hit by the massive explosion..

Ah, ok.

In that case, the bigger problem would be not the price, but the fact that the Apocalypse templates are no longer available, and haven't been since the week the new Apocalypse was released.

**Azreal13**

insaniak wrote:
Tannhauser42 wrote:
As a superheavy, when it dies, you have to use that big huge template to determine who gets hit by the massive explosion..

Ah, ok.

In that case, the bigger problem would be not the price, but the fact that the Apocalypse templates are no longer available, and haven't been since the week the new Apocalypse was released.

Games Workshop wrote:This box set contains three types of templates for use in your games of Apocalypse. The Apocalyptic Mega Blast Template is truly massive. At 15" in diameter it's the biggest template we've ever made (so big that it comes in 4 separate parts that need to be clipped together). It contains measurements for 4 sizes of templates, at diameters of 5", 7", 10" and 15".

The Hellstorm Template is the largest flamer template available. Over 16" in length, and 5" wide, it includes both the standard flamer and Hellstorm Template within its design.

Finally, the Apocalyptic Barrage Marker is made of 5 clip together, ordnance sized templates (that's a 5" diameter on each template to you and me).

These are an essential purchase for anyone who wants to play games of Apocalypse.

Availability: No Longer Available Part Code: 99220199050

Priceless!!

**bubber**

The old ones are still available - http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1080004a&prodId=prod2340012a

**Chrysis**

MWHistorian wrote:
BakAG wrote:
Guys since im not familiar with the escalation rules i want to ask something that has not been mentioned as far as i know.
The Knight is a SH walker right? Since its a walker doesnt that mean that it can be repaired? Am i missing something?
Are SH not repaired like regular walkers? Because if that is the case allying a Knight to a SM army with IH CT and a MotF(or 2)
and some servitors... maybe... will be well... great!!! It potentially doubles its survaivability right? I must be missing something...
please do let me know. Thanx in advance!

I like that idea because I run two MOTF and a tech marine in my army. I usually never get to repair anything because vehicles just go pop, but this just might work.

Nope, won't work. No repairing Allied vehicles per BRB FAQ.

**insaniak**

bubber wrote:
The old ones are still available - http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1080004a&prodId=prod2340012a

The old blast marker was smaller. If you need the 15" one, the old one's not going to be much use.

It does raise the question of why they would be selling the old templates when at least 2 of them don't fit the current rules... but not selling the new ones.Or at least the question of why, if they still had so many of the old ones left, they would change them for the new Apocalypse release.

**Azreal13**

bubber wrote:
The old ones are still available - http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1080004a&prodId=prod2340012a

Not as bad I suppose, and I suspect the new ones will suddenly and miraculously become available once they've got shot of all the old ones.

I'd definitely want the 'poseable' barrage template over the four leaf clover one though.

Weirdly, I went to the exact same location in the site, searched for 'apocalypse' and 'templates' as separate searches and as one phrase, and the site never showed me those, only the newer, unavailable, blue ones. Odd....

**bu11etmagn3tt**

Alpharius wrote:
It was rather amusing watching bu11etmagn3tt live up to his username though!

I do what I can!

**BrianDavion**

insaniak wrote:
bubber wrote:
The old ones are still available - http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1080004a&prodId=prod2340012a

The old blast marker was smaller. If you need the 15" one, the old one's not going to be much use.

It does raise the question of why they would be selling the old templates when at least 2 of them don't fit the current rules... but not selling the new ones.Or at least the question of why, if they still had so many of the old ones left, they would change them for the new Apocalypse release.

thew old ones will work with some tape measureing I guess but yeah, it is a bit odd

**Vash108**

Platuan4th wrote:
Vash108 wrote:
Where is my Chaos stuff?

GW doesn't love you, get over it.

You're worse than John Cusack with a boombox.

**H.B.M.C.**

That price point... yikes...

**Padre**

Re the price point, the first "discount" ebay price is up...

(again, not affiliated, etc etc etc)

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Warhammer-40k-Imperial-Knight-Titan-Kit-NEW-Cheap-Overseas-Shipping-/360863248264?pt=Games_US&hash=item5405202f88&_uhb=1

**Alpharius**

Padre wrote:
Re the price point, the first "discount" ebay price is up...

(again, not affiliated, etc etc etc)

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Warhammer-40k-Imperial-Knight-Titan-Kit-NEW-Cheap-Overseas-Shipping-/360863248264?pt=Games_US&hash=item5405202f88&_uhb=1

$114 with free shipping in the USA...

**Sirius42**

bodazoka wrote:
This is how I sum up the 90% of the last 50 posts..

"Ermagherd the price *heavy breath"
... doesn't play an army that can ally the knight, buy's one anyway

"Ermagherd the price *heavy breath"
... Buy's 3 of them

"Ermagherd the price *heavy breath"
... Play's warmachine

you forgot...

"Ermagherd the price *heavy breath"
...raves about dreamforge

**Achaylus72**

Well i just did some calculations based on the US price in the Imperial Knight and it will come out roughly $240 Australian Dollars/$270 New Zealand Dollars while the Dreamforge Crusader from Wayland will be $143 Australian Dollars thats $97 Australian cheaper to get the dreamforge kit.

**insaniak**

Achaylus72 wrote:
Well i just did some calculations based on the US price in the Imperial Knight and it will come out roughly $240 Australian Dollars/$270 New Zealand Dollars...

No idea what you're basing your calculations on, but that's unlikely given that it's CAN$170.

The Baneblade is US$140, and OZ$165. I would expect the Knight to be the same in Oz, given the same US price.

**bodazoka**

Sorry mate im not sure where you get $240 Aus dollars?

Khorne lord of skulls: $170
Baneblade: $165
Necron Tes Vault: $170
Stompa: $165

All Australian prices, and direct from the GW web site.

The dreamforge titan is $152, not sure of the price for delivery?

**Chrysis**

Maybe he's including the blast markers, transfer sheet, and a copy of Apocalypse or Escalation?

EDIT: Although that still doesn't add up, because he'd need the markers and the book for a proxy model as well.

**NoseGoblin**

Zweischneid wrote:
carlos13th wrote:
You can pick it up from wayland games for about £78 or $130

http://www.waylandgames.co.uk/dreamforge-games/leviathan-crusader/prod_19888.html

Didn't I just link Wayland above?

DF Leviathan is RRP USD 157,55 on Wayland, or 126ish after Wayland discount. Or GBP 95,- RRP, 76 after discount
GW Knight will be RRP USD 140,- on Wayland, or 112 to 119ish after Wayland discount (ya know, just like the Baneblade). Or GBP 85,- RRP, 72,50 after discount

GW Knight wins.

This is the least expensive place I know of ATM on that side of the pond http://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=5281

**insaniak**

bodazoka wrote:
The dreamforge titan is $152, not sure of the price for delivery?

It's $144 from Wayland with free shipping.

So the GW Knight from Milsims (standard 20% off GW) will work out around about the same price.

**Agamemnon2**

bodazoka wrote:
This is how I sum up the 90% of the last 50 posts..

"Ermagherd the price *heavy breath"
... doesn't play an army that can ally the knight, buy's one anyway

"Ermagherd the price *heavy breath"
... Buy's 3 of them

"Ermagherd the price *heavy breath"
... Play's warmachine

What about "people bitching about people bitching about the price of the model?" Surely that merits inclusion on your wee list? Also, I should point out that ascribing actions to posters like you're doing there is pretty much the opposite of "summing up", better known as "inventing stuff wholesale to suit your own limited preconceptions."

I won't buy one of these, nor do I play Warmachine, so when I say the price is too damn high, you can't spout your tired catchphrases in response like a mentally challenged parrot. Your little comedy routine might work on 4chan or wherever people like you congregate these days, but it can only made the judicious grieve.

**BrianDavion**

Chrysis wrote:
Maybe he's including the blast markers, transfer sheet, and a copy of Apocalypse or Escalation?

EDIT: Although that still doesn't add up, because he'd need the markers and the book for a proxy model as well.

also I'd not be suprised if the codex when it comes out gives the rules for superheavy walkers.

**Padre**

Achaylus72 wrote:
Well i just did some calculations based on the US price in the Imperial Knight and it will come out roughly $240 Australian Dollars/$270 New Zealand Dollars while the Dreamforge Crusader from Wayland will be $143 Australian Dollars thats $97 Australian cheaper to get the dreamforge kit.

Huh?

AUD$240?

Please explain how you came up with that?

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NoseGoblin wrote:

This is the least expensive place I know of ATM on that side of the pond http://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=5281

Thanks, Mark!

**AllSeeingSkink**

The Escalation book gives you the sizes of the templates, yeah? So use a compass and make your own?

But yeah, I measured my Trygon, it's 130mm tall, I measured the head of my Trygon as a reference, then added the appropriate height to get to the Knight. By my calcs, the Knight is 150-155mm to the top of it's hunch. (5.9 to 6.1")

I was hoping for something larger, oh well.

**Wise Guy Sam**

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
The Escalation book gives you the sizes of the templates, yeah? So use a compass and make your own?

But yeah, I measured my Trygon, it's 130mm tall, I measured the head of my Trygon as a reference, then added the appropriate height to get to the Knight. By my calcs, the Knight is 150-155mm to the top of it's hunch. (5.9 to 6.1")

I was hoping for something larger, oh well.

You've done the math so you would know but that doesn't sound right. I would have thought it closer to 8 or 9 inches but there you go, still a great looking model.

There are many dick jokes here but they aren't needed.

**Kavik_Whitescar**

Wise Guy Sam wrote:
AllSeeingSkink wrote:
The Escalation book gives you the sizes of the templates, yeah? So use a compass and make your own?

But yeah, I measured my Trygon, it's 130mm tall, I measured the head of my Trygon as a reference, then added the appropriate height to get to the Knight. By my calcs, the Knight is 150-155mm to the top of it's hunch. (5.9 to 6.1")

I was hoping for something larger, oh well.

You've done the math so you would know but that doesn't sound right. I would have thought it closer to 8 or 9 inches but there you go, still a great looking model.

There are many dick jokes here but they aren't needed.

Who is joking?

**bubber**

azreal13 wrote:
bubber wrote:
The old ones are still available - http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1080004a&prodId=prod2340012a

Not as bad I suppose, and I suspect the new ones will suddenly and miraculously become available once they've got shot of all the old ones.

I'd definitely want the 'poseable' barrage template over the four leaf clover one though.

Weirdly, I went to the exact same location in the site, searched for 'apocalypse' and 'templates' as separate searches and as one phrase, and the site never showed me those, only the newer, unavailable, blue ones. Odd....

Gaming Figures still has the new ones listed - http://gamingfigures.com/viewProducts.asp?action=viewproduct&product=6683

**Daston**

The way I see it is its the same price as a tank of fuel. I will probably spend more time painting and assembling the model than that tank of fuel will last.

Man math.......making unnecessary purchases possible