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Can you give me some tactics to defeat the armies in the title. The dark angels are Greenwing and Deathwing.
I am using blood angels.

Using?

Without knowing the armies you play, I'd suggest either as much AP2 as you can muster to take out the terminators, or drown them in dice, such as by using Ork Boyz.

AP2 also does wonders against MEQ too, so go nuts.

As a Dark Angel player I can tell your best bet is to surrender early and pray for mercy that won't come. In all seriousness though I have more trouble against buckets of dice than I do AP2. On a side note, what does MEQ mean?

Crazy Jay wrote:
As a Dark Angel player I can tell your best bet is to surrender early and pray for mercy that won't come. In all seriousness though I have more trouble against buckets of dice than I do AP2. On a side note, what does MEQ mean?

Surrender, yes.

If you cursor over MEQ, it will tell you.

-Grim Dark

Crazy Jay wrote:
As a Dark Angel player I can tell your best bet is to surrender early and pray for mercy that won't come. In all seriousness though I have more trouble against buckets of dice than I do AP2. On a side note, what does MEQ mean?

My brother plays Dark Angels, and from what ive seen him use, the Deathwing Knights seem to work pretty well against me. He also has a habit of using camo cloaked scouts at lower point cost games which can be a pain in the ass.

MEQ is Space marines and anything else with a similar stat line/ 3+ armor save

Thanks for clarifying that. I can't "cursor" over anything because I'm on an iPhone.

Crazy Jay wrote:
Thanks for clarifying that. I can't "cursor" over anything because I'm on an iPhone.

I know that pain...

But it is a good pain!

so where did the term MEQ come from?

It's just 40K jargon, I'm not experienced enough to tell you where it came from, just what it means.

There's also TEQ (Terminators and their equivalents) and GEQ (Guardsmen and their equivalents, although you don't hear that very often). It's just broad terms to classify units.

Everyone is going off topic.

Having not seen blood angels in action, what i can tell you in terms of specifics is limited, however, as a DA player,i can tell you what kills me dead. For Deathwing: buckets of dice. Lots and lots of STR 4-5 shooting is easy enough to come by, and if you're going with low STR, low AP fire, then storm shields become pointless, and every time i roll a 1 on a save thats 44-49 points gone. If you have AP2 melee, you can charge shooty DWT units, cause with their power fists they go last and you can kill them first. Don't charge DWK units or hammernators, 3++ is good times, and DWK are not unwieldy. Basically just kite them all day long with shooty.

If I'm playing greenwing, I'm bringing the dakka banner, thats just how it's done. Therefore, either use lots and lots of 36-48" firepower (PC, HB, ML, LC, AC, etc), or try to get things into melee ASAP with my dakkapole unit and kill that thing dead, then it's a fair fight for the rest of the game. (Caution, dakkabanner may be inside a land raider in large enough points games)

So would devastors with two heavy bolters and two lascannons be a good idea.

 megatombuscus wrote:
So would devastors with two heavy bolters and two lascannons be a good idea.

Dont use lascannons for MEQ killing, its really point inefficient. However I find plasma cannons work well

TEQ giving you trouble? Bring Two Vindicators
MEQ giving you trouble? Bring two Baal Predators with Flamestorm/Heavy Bolter sponsons
GEQ giving you trouble? Bring a Furioso Dreadnought in a Drop Pod, replace the melta gun arm with a Frag Cannon and upgrade the underslung storm bolter to a Heavy Flamer.

Best thing about these units? These are the best in the BA codex and you want to take them anyway. After this, the only thing I can recommend adding is mandatory HQ/Troops, Anti Aircraft and Anti Tank. Librarian/Scouts/Assault Marines and a Storm Raven/Quad Gun are good to cover these.

For the record, BA are probably the worst army in the game at the moment, especially against the armies you've listed. You might be able to counter the SW and DA with Vindis and Baals, but your only real hope vs Tau is lots of LOS blocking cover to allow your Assault Squads to move up. Otherwise you're going to get destroyed in the 2-3 turns it takes you to reach the enemy lines.