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 whembly wrote:

Keep pulling that strand dogma.


What strand? The phenomena that I'm describing are well known to anyone who has ever worked with poll statistics.

 whembly wrote:

The point, is that instead of openly advocating for a desired candidate/party, they choose to run stories which, while not obviously partisan on their faces, are nevertheless chosen according to partisan motivations.


There are numerous benign explanations for such behavior. Hell, you even agreed to one of them.

 whembly wrote:

Don't claim to be "Fair and Balanced" or "Most Trusted News", when it's obvious that it's not.


Which network claimed to be the "Most Trusted News"?

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What strand? The phenomena that I'm describing are well known to anyone who has ever worked with poll statistics.

I have to agree with the accursed platypus on this one. The question itself and manner its asked is just as important. After all, thats what push polling is all about.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Dammit, I forgot about MSNBC ! Don't watch much TV.

Also polls can be very biased. Even small things like:
How good is President Obama doing?
v.s.
How bad is President Obama doing?


I agree on all points. Note, I'm not saying Fox is unbiased. Its extremely biased and extremely boring.

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 dogma wrote:
 whembly wrote:

Keep pulling that strand dogma.


What strand? The phenomena that I'm describing are well known to anyone who has ever worked with poll statistics.

It's starting to unravel dogma.

 whembly wrote:

The point, is that instead of openly advocating for a desired candidate/party, they choose to run stories which, while not obviously partisan on their faces, are nevertheless chosen according to partisan motivations.


There are numerous benign explanations for such behavior. Hell, you even agreed to one of them.

On some cases... sure. But, I'm a cynic.

It's Fake But Accurate... eh?

 whembly wrote:

Don't claim to be "Fair and Balanced" or "Most Trusted News", when it's obvious that it's not.


Which network claimed to be the "Most Trusted News"?

That would be:
CNN | The Most Trusted Name in News

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 whembly wrote:

On some cases... sure.


The material you cited only references 3 cases. Much as you only referenced 3 cases.

 whembly wrote:

It's Fake But Accurate... eh?


When did I insinuate as much?

 whembly wrote:

That would be:
CNN | The Most Trusted Name in News


So no network, in fact, claimed to be the "Most Trusted News"?

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Midterms bring out the important issues!

http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/17/politics/iowa-senate-braley-chicken-dispute/index.html?c=politics
   
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Damn.



“I would like President Obama to re-read the speeches of candidate Obama"


He's basically saying that getting involved in other people’s fights almost always makes our problems worse... and yet, he's endorsing intervention against ISIS in Iraq.


*shrugs*
He's also digging at McCain and the more hawkish potential candidates.

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Man, Obama will never win his third term if he keeps this up...
   
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 d-usa wrote:
Man, Obama will never win his third term if he keeps this up...


Well then it's lucky he'll just take the country by force if he loses the election.

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 d-usa wrote:
Man, Obama will never win his third term if he keeps this up...

You keep mocking this...

Obama will be as toxic, if not more, to his party as Bush was in his 2nd term.

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 d-usa wrote:
If you don't get why I mock this, then there is no point trying to explain it.

Don't worry... I get it.

Just pointing it out.

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Based on your answer I know you don't get it.
   
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Catskills in NYS

 whembly wrote:
 d-usa wrote:
Man, Obama will never win his third term if he keeps this up...

You keep mocking this...

Obama will be as toxic, if not more, to his party as Bush was in his 2nd term.

I that even possible?



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 d-usa wrote:
Based on your answer I know you don't get it.

Based on your responses... you wish.


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 Co'tor Shas wrote:
 whembly wrote:
 d-usa wrote:
Man, Obama will never win his third term if he keeps this up...

You keep mocking this...

Obama will be as toxic, if not more, to his party as Bush was in his 2nd term.

I that even possible?




Very.

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Didn't know where to stick this... and didn't wanna to start up a new thread, so...

The shot:
Heh...

The chaser:
Richard Grenell @RichardGrenell
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To be fair, the guy who made it over the fence at the White House should be able to live there now....with his family. #Undocumented


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 whembly wrote:
Didn't know where to stick this... and didn't wanna to start up a new thread, so...

The shot:
Heh...

The chaser:
Richard Grenell @RichardGrenell
Follow
To be fair, the guy who made it over the fence at the White House should be able to live there now....with his family. #Undocumented



Would be funnier if it was a) a child jumping the fence and b) someone running into the Capitol.

You know, considering that the whole "undocumented children getting to stay with family if they make it across the fence" thing is actually mandated by a federal law that was passed by Congress and renewed multiple times, last in 2008 without any objection by Republicans.

But I guess that's not as funny as making a joke on twitter that has no basis on reality.
   
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 d-usa wrote:
 whembly wrote:
Didn't know where to stick this... and didn't wanna to start up a new thread, so...

The shot:
Heh...

The chaser:
Richard Grenell @RichardGrenell
Follow
To be fair, the guy who made it over the fence at the White House should be able to live there now....with his family. #Undocumented



Would be funnier if it was a) a child jumping the fence and b) someone running into the Capitol.

You know, considering that the whole "undocumented children getting to stay with family if they make it across the fence" thing is actually mandated by a federal law that was passed by Congress and renewed multiple times, last in 2008 without any objection by Republicans.

But I guess that's not as funny as making a joke on twitter that has no basis on reality.

Definitely.

You know, I don't mind too much about the whole anchor baby\child situation. Just sign the fething guest book, get in line and do more to secure the borders/ports.

Anyhoo... is it me, or has there been an increased occurance of this sort of thing? (whackadoos trying to jump fence and run to the WH).

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I don't know if there has been that many more. I'm trying to remember the year that we had the guy shooting at the White House, was that still under Bush? That's the last "high profile" thing that comes to mind, aside from the party crasher couple.

Having two incidents back to back is something that's pretty rare though, but I'm guessing that the average number of incidents have been steady. But that's just a guess on my part.

Edit: I guess the White House shooting was in 2011. I could have sworn there was one during Bush as well...

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Since you are talking about it, apparently the guy is nuts, but not actually bad .
After he jumped the fence last week, agents found 800 rounds of ammunition in the Bronco, parked on Independence Avenue Northwest, in boxes and in magazines. Gonzalez told an agent that “he was concerned the atmosphere was collapsing and he needed to get the information to the president,” according to the complaint.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-white-house-intruder-arraignment-20140922-story.html#page=1




(Yes, I know he probably isn't telling the truth, it' just entertaining.)

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Did he get the message to the President?

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Let's hope so .

Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
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Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
 sebster wrote:
Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens
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Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace.
 
   
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Wow... Eric Holder is resigning.

The Timing is very curious...

Probably Obama/Demcocrats is itching for a confirmation battle?

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 whembly wrote:
Wow... Eric Holder is resigning.

The Timing is very curious...

Probably Obama/Demcocrats is itching for a confirmation battle?

Or he is 63 and wants to get out of politics... I'd certainty understand that.

Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
 kronk wrote:
Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
 sebster wrote:
Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens
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Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace.
 
   
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 Co'tor Shas wrote:
 whembly wrote:
Wow... Eric Holder is resigning.

The Timing is very curious...

Probably Obama/Demcocrats is itching for a confirmation battle?

Or he is 63 and wants to get out of politics... I'd certainty understand that.


Either he really wants to spend more time with his family, which let's be honest, it's likely...

...or another shoe is going to drop (ie, Fast & Furious). Maybe the idea is to get his replacement confirmed before the GOP gains the majority in January?? Considering that it would be an even more obvious ploy if Holder waited until the mid-terms and it was official the GOP would have control in a few months.

Still... odd timing.

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 whembly wrote:
 Co'tor Shas wrote:
 whembly wrote:
Wow... Eric Holder is resigning.

The Timing is very curious...

Probably Obama/Demcocrats is itching for a confirmation battle?

Or he is 63 and wants to get out of politics... I'd certainty understand that.


Either he really wants to spend more time with his family, which let's be honest, it's likely...

...or another shoe is going to drop (ie, Fast & Furious). Maybe the idea is to get his replacement confirmed before the GOP gains the majority in January?? Considering that it would be an even more obvious ploy if Holder waited until the mid-terms and it was official the GOP would have control in a few months.

Still... odd timing.

Fair enough. I just find people tend to over-analyze things.

Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
 kronk wrote:
Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
 sebster wrote:
Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens
 BaronIveagh wrote:
Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace.
 
   
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Let me guess: the exact same people that have been screaming at him to resign are now suspicious because he is resigning?
   
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The comments on the article are getting hilarious. It's a bunch of Rs who made accounts spamming the hell out of it with stuff like "everyone in the administration should be arrested" (when no one has broken the law).

Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
 kronk wrote:
Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
 sebster wrote:
Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens
 BaronIveagh wrote:
Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace.
 
   
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 d-usa wrote:
Let me guess: the exact same people that have been screaming at him to resign are now suspicious because he is resigning?

Well...

Congress ain't scaring him. So, whats he's afraid of?

But, yeah... you've hit it.

EDIT: there's a another thread on this... let's take it there?

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So, the Clintons have posted the pictures of their first grandchild.

I mention this because, although I think she would win, I strongly suspect that Hillary Clinton will not run for president.

  • Being president is actually kind of a lousy job and if the Democrats lose the Senate it will be more so

  • She already is fairly powerful in the private sector pushing for women's rights, without being tied to ethics rules and FOIA requests

  • It would likely be a pay cut

  • She likely legitimately would like to spend time with her family

  • This is obviously subjective, but in my opinion, in 2008 she capitulated pretty early.

  • She would be the oldest president ever (although women do live longer than men, so this one is last)

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