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2014/09/28 16:20:44
Subject: Re:Midterms are coming... Cry 'Havoc!', and let slip the dogs of war.
No one, but is she enough of a party loyalist to care who drinks from the cup she declined?
Still, being the first woman president in the US, forever, has an incalculable appeal. Knowing that, 100 years from now, little girls will be reading about you the way they read about Susan B. Anthony...
I dunno. I wouldn't run if I were her but it's probably not a wholly unemotional decision.
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2014/09/29 17:03:55
Subject: Midterms are coming... Cry 'Havoc!', and let slip the dogs of war.
Polls tend to tell the partisan veiw in the areas mapped, when it is theunregistered who often decide the vote, ot at least that has been my experience.
Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
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2014/09/29 21:24:32
Subject: Re:Midterms are coming... Cry 'Havoc!', and let slip the dogs of war.
Co'tor Shas wrote: Polls tend to tell the partisan veiw in the areas mapped, when it is theunregistered who often decide the vote, ot at least that has been my experience.
I used to argue with him online on how sabermetric biggest flaw is that it really discounts the human elements of the game. Fun times.
So you trolled him.
Co'tor Shas wrote: Polls tend to tell the partisan veiw in the areas mapped, when it is theunregistered who often decide the vote, ot at least that has been my experience.
Well, no, that isn't how polls work. At least not the ones that are commonly publicized.
Generally speaking a publicized poll will require a person to self-identify as being affiliated with a particular party (eg. "I am a Republican."); limited to a list which is created by the people administering the poll. Registration is not considered unless it is admitted to via a specific poll question, or registration records that are open to the people administering the poll.
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2014/09/29 21:57:03
Subject: Re:Midterms are coming... Cry 'Havoc!', and let slip the dogs of war.
“Mary Landrieu first ran for Senate in 1996 promising to be a champion for the black community,” Guillory says in the video, filmed in Opelousas, La. “But 18 years later, little has changed.”
“Our communities are poorer than they were in 1996. Our schools continue to fail children,” he said. “And our jails are filled with young black men who should be at home being fathers.”
Says Guillory: “Meanwhile Mary Landrieu lives in a $2 million mansion on Capitol Hill.”
…
Addressing black voters, Guillory says: “While you scrounge together food stamps to buy kool aid, she sips champagne at cocktail parties. While you dig through the couch looking for gas money, she flies around in private jets funded by taxpayer dollars.”
“But Mary Landrieu knows that she doesn’t have to do anything for our community, because no matter what she does, 95 percent of us will line up to vote for her,” Guillory says, “Every. Single. Time.”
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2014/10/01 17:55:38
Subject: Re:Midterms are coming... Cry 'Havoc!', and let slip the dogs of war.
A $1,000-per-plate fundraiser with Democratic Sen. Mark Pryor (Ark.) turned into an anti-Harry Reid gripe fest last month, after one donor blamed the majority leader for the Senate’s poor public approval ratings and said the idea of him leading the institution was laughable.
“If you asked a thousand Americans, is this the guy who’s best positioned to lead the U.S. Senate, people would laugh at you,” said the donor, according to another attendee and a recording of the event obtained by the Washington Free Beacon.
Pryor was speaking at an invitation-only fundraiser in New York to benefit the Democrats for Education Reform Federal PAC on Sept. 21.
During the discussion, an attendee began criticizing Reid, telling Pryor that the Democratic leader held some responsibility for the low approval rating of Congress.
“Let me just interrupt,” Pryor said, according to an audio recording that was corroborated by an attendee. “I think possibly the best thing that could happen … to this institution, this election cycle would be if [Senate Minority Leader] Mitch McConnell gets beat and Harry Reid gets replaced.”
The rest of Pryor’s comment is drowned out by clapping. A spokesperson for the Pryor campaign did not respond to requests to confirm this statement or questions about his opinion on Reid’s leadership role.
“Okay, so you made my question a lot easier,” the attendee told Pryor. “I agree with you 100 percent, because I think there’s a big, forget about partisanship and [inaudible], there’s a generational issue. I just don’t think Harry Reid is in touch with what is happening in modern America on education, the economy, all of these things.”
He went on to ask Pryor who would be the best option to succeed Reid as majority leader.
Pryor suggested Sen. Chuck Schumer (D., N.Y.), saying he “does a pretty darn good job there in the Senate, and he’s actually, he’s not this crazy wild-eyed, left wing liberal either.”
The senator also had favorable words for Sen. Mark Begich (D., Alaska).
“I think Begich is really strong,” said Pryor. “You know, he’s green, he’s just running for his first reelection.”
He called the leadership role “a full time [job], you have to really focus on that to the exclusion of all the state issues … you really have to devote your life to it. But I think Schumer is pretty much there on that.”
Pryor also weighed in on potential replacements for Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R., Ky.) if he lost his seat to Democratic candidate Alison Lundergan-Grimes.
“The next guy in line would be [Senate Minority Whip John] Cornyn from Texas,” said Pryor. “Cornyn, I don’t see him as really being that great.”
Pryor suggested Sen. Richard Burr (R., N.C.), but “I don’t think he’d ever do it.”
“Of course the best one would be Sen. Lamar Alexander (R., Tenn.),” he added. “Lamar doesn’t have a chance of doing it, he’s too moderate in this environment.”
Earlier this year, Pryor told Politico that he would support Reid staying on as majority leader, although his endorsement was hardly enthusiastic.
“Yeah,” said Pryor when asked if he would back Reid. “It’s up to him on whether he wants to do it.”
The Republican National Committee later used this to hit Pryor for “ma[king] it clear that, if elected again, his first vote would be for Obama’s best friend—Harry Reid.”
Pryor has been pushing back against the Cotton campaign’s effort to portray him as partisan Democrat and a loyal foot soldier for President Barack Obama, who is unpopular in Arkansas.
A donor at the fundraiser also joked that “a lot of the Koch brothers money” was being used to tie Pryor to President Obama in Arkansas.
“Yeah. Eighty-five percent of it,” said Pryor.
Pryor’s campaign received a $5,000 contribution from Koch Industries last September, the Weekly Standard reported, and the company has been one of the top 20 contributors to his PAC since 2009.
Pryor was also the top Democratic recipient of Koch Industry contributions in the Senate during the 2012 cycle, taking in $10,000, according to OpenSecrets.
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2014/10/08 18:11:06
Subject: Re:Midterms are coming... Cry 'Havoc!', and let slip the dogs of war.
I mention this because, although I think she would win, I strongly suspect that Hillary Clinton will not run for president.
Being president is actually kind of a lousy job and if the Democrats lose the Senate it will be more so
She already is fairly powerful in the private sector pushing for women's rights, without being tied to ethics rules and FOIA requests
It would likely be a pay cut
She likely legitimately would like to spend time with her family
This is obviously subjective, but in my opinion, in 2008 she capitulated pretty early.
She would be the oldest president ever (although women do live longer than men, so this one is last)
Good summary
I think she's likely pushed into running. Simply because she'd win handily.
Who else in the Democratic party has that kind of cache?
She'll get curb stomped on Libya and Syria. i think she may try to run. I think she has no chance actually. She can't campaign well and just looks...20th century.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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2014/10/08 18:34:00
Subject: Re:Midterms are coming... Cry 'Havoc!', and let slip the dogs of war.
I mention this because, although I think she would win, I strongly suspect that Hillary Clinton will not run for president.
Being president is actually kind of a lousy job and if the Democrats lose the Senate it will be more so
She already is fairly powerful in the private sector pushing for women's rights, without being tied to ethics rules and FOIA requests
It would likely be a pay cut
She likely legitimately would like to spend time with her family
This is obviously subjective, but in my opinion, in 2008 she capitulated pretty early.
She would be the oldest president ever (although women do live longer than men, so this one is last)
Good summary
I think she's likely pushed into running. Simply because she'd win handily.
Who else in the Democratic party has that kind of cache?
She'll get curb stomped on Libya and Syria. i think she may try to run. I think she has no chance actually. She can't campaign well and just looks...20th century.
I think that if she's nominated as the Democratic Presidential candidate, her past get whitewashed.
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2014/10/08 18:38:46
Subject: Midterms are coming... Cry 'Havoc!', and let slip the dogs of war.
Not if $200mm in attack ads have anything to say about it.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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2014/10/08 19:16:04
Subject: Midterms are coming... Cry 'Havoc!', and let slip the dogs of war.
Interestingly, Republican Gov. Scott Walker is receiving the support of 50 percent of likely voters and Democratic challenger Mary Burke receiving 45 percent support, according to Marquette Polling. If he wins, this is a Republican that I'd want to see run for President. (unless HRC is running... then, he should just stay in WI)
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2014/10/11 15:58:42
Subject: Re:Midterms are coming... Cry 'Havoc!', and let slip the dogs of war.
Interestingly, Republican Gov. Scott Walker is receiving the support of 50 percent of likely voters and Democratic challenger Mary Burke receiving 45 percent support, according to Marquette Polling. If he wins, this is a Republican that I'd want to see run for President. (unless HRC is running... then, he should just stay in WI)
That isn't good data. The number of respondents is well under the industry standard (801 v. 1000). Additionally the variation between the MoE for all respondents and the MoE for likely voters is rather unusual, ordinarily you would want to see something significantly less than .6% if your sample of respondents is dominated by the group you have selected as likely voters.
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2014/10/13 00:50:21
Subject: Re:Midterms are coming... Cry 'Havoc!', and let slip the dogs of war.
I don't watch any of the news channels, so I can't talk about what the on-air statements are. But I know that I have read some very critical articles on CNN.com about this ad. I don't know about MSNBC.com because that website manages to be more worthless than FoxNews.com (seriously people, hire some better web designers).
I'm mixed on the ad itself. I see where it crosses the line, but I also think that if you use the wheelchair as a prop in your own ads then you lose some of the wind in your sail when you complain about other people using it as well. It's hard to scream "Oh no, she pointed out my wheelchair" if your ads include "look at me and my wheelchair" messages.
But she should have seen the outrage coming and known better.
2014/10/13 14:35:12
Subject: Re:Midterms are coming... Cry 'Havoc!', and let slip the dogs of war.
The Agenda Project is a progressive non-profit political organization founded in 2010 by author Erica Payne. This ad, featuring clips of Mitch McConnell, Pat Roberts, and many other Republicans implies that austerity cuts to the CDC and NIH are responsible for the 2014 Ebola outbreak. This ad with run in Kentucky and other states leading up to the election.
It's crazy season now!
Both sides will be going butt-nutt fething pants now...
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2014/10/13 16:05:12
Subject: Re:Midterms are coming... Cry 'Havoc!', and let slip the dogs of war.
Is it now law that you have to be clinically insane to make political adds?
I saw one against the D who is to oust the R in my house district (an has a pretty good chance) who accused him of being... rich, and holding fundaiserd for Ds. The horror, a rich D who supports his party .
Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
kronk wrote: Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
sebster wrote: Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens
BaronIveagh wrote: Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace.
2014/10/13 19:29:10
Subject: Re:Midterms are coming... Cry 'Havoc!', and let slip the dogs of war.
Co'tor Shas wrote: Is it now law that you have to be clinically insane to make political adds?
I saw one against the D who is to oust the R in my house district (an has a pretty good chance) who accused him of being... rich, and holding fundaiserd for Ds. The horror, a rich D who supports his party .
the polls.
