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 whembly wrote:

Not a Registered Republican if that's what you're driving at.


So you're a RINO?

Though I was not referring to registration.

 whembly wrote:

Or, we could go to Canadian model by expanding Medicare and overhaul US tax codes to support this.


The US could move to a single-payer system, if many of it's citizens were not adamantly opposed to such a maneuver.

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 dogma wrote:
 whembly wrote:

Not a Registered Republican if that's what you're driving at.


So you're a RINO?

Nah... I'm a South Park Republican™.

As Matt Stone stated:
"I hate conservatives, but I really fething hate liberals."


Seriously... I'm probably mostly aligned with libertarians with a strong conservative flair. (notice the small "l" there )


 whembly wrote:

Or, we could go to Canadian model by expanding Medicare and overhaul US tax codes to support this.


The US could move to a single-payer system, if many of it's citizens were not adamantly opposed to such a maneuver.

True. That well is poisoned for a long time unfortunately.

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http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/102214-723068-calibration-error-changes-gop-votes-to-dem.htm
Voter Fraud: As early voting begins in the Land of Lincoln, President Obama casts his ballot and a Republican state senator voting for himself finds that his ballot was counted for his opponent. Eric Holder, call your office.
The day after resigning as attorney General, Eric Holder told the Congressional Black Caucus that the voter ID laws he and his Justice Department opposed were answers to a problem that "doesn't exist." Yet when President Obama left the golf course Monday to vote early in his home state of Illinois, he was asked to present his ID before casting his ballot.
Upon casting his early ballot, Alex Wagner, the MSNBC anchor and wife of White House chef Sam Kass, opined that Obama was doing "something that almost a half million Texas residents may no longer be able to do this election cycle."
She was upset the U.S. Supreme Court "at five in the morning on Saturday . . . decided to allow Texas to enforce its strict voter ID law in the November elections."
What she failed to point out is that the president himself, like all early Illinois voters, is required by law to present a valid government-issued photo ID to cast his early vote. As we've noted repeatedly, there's no evidence voter ID laws suppress minority voting.
Judging from the polls, any voting suppressed this November will be due to the president's failed policies, which he has insisted are on the ballot in every state.
Also voting early in Illinois on Monday was Republican state representative candidate Jim Moynihan. "While early voting at the Schaumburg Public Library today," Moynihan said, according to the website Illinois Review, "I tried to cast a vote for myself and instead it cast a vote for my opponent." Moynihan also noted his surprise that "the same thing happened with a number of races when I tried to vote for a Republican and the machine registered a vote for a Democrat."
Somehow we're not surprised this could happen in a state where the art of "machine" politics was perfected if not invented. Moynihan was able to recast his ballot, and the errant device was reportedly taken out of service.
But we wonder how many voters might not notice such a "mistake" in a state with an extremely tight governor's race between businessman Bruce Rauner and incumbent Democrat Pat Quinn.
The latter is the successor to the disgraced and now incarcerated Rod Blagojevich, accused of trying to sell the appointment to Barack Obama's vacant Senate seat after Obama became president.
"Clearly, I am concerned that citizens will be unable to vote for the candidate of their choice, especially if they are in a hurry and do not double-check their ballot," Moynihan said.
"This was a calibration error of the touch-screen of the machine," Jim Scalzitti, deputy communications director for the Cook County Board of Elections, told the website Illinois Watchdog. We would like to believe that, but it might not have been.
Clearly there has been much resistance among Democrats to voting integrity measures such as voter ID. We're reminded of the case of Melowese Richardson, the Hamilton County, Ohio, poll worker who was convicted of casting multiple votes for President Obama.
When the Virginia Voter Alliance cross-checked voter rolls in Virginia and Maryland, it announced that it had turned up 44,000 people registered to vote in both states at the same time. The group also identified 31,000 dead voters via the Social Security Administration's Death Master File.
Just this week, an Arizona ballot monitor caught a man wearing a Citizens for a Better Arizona T-shirt stuffing hundreds of early ballots in a ballot box, while guerrilla filmmaker James O'Keefe revealed undercover footage of liberal activists in Colorado urging him to fill out unused ballots, a violation of the law.
Also in Colorado, campaign workers have been going door to door, asking voters for mail-in ballots, a practice some fear could be abused. Meanwhile, in New York City, it's official: There are 850 registered voters who are officially listed as 164 years old or older.
As these shenanigans show, things are getting serious everywhere. Now Chicago demonstrates that vote fraud is not only real, it may now even be automated.


 
   
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Edit: feth it, hyperbole and misleading headlines is the reason I'm not going back into the voter ID thread.

Articles about "voter fraud" should probably go into the voter ID thread...

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Wow, can a news organization be more biased. Constant baseless claims and assertions.

But yeah, not actually voter fraud that the Rs claim to exist, but very bad nevertheless.

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Classy...



SC Democratic gubernatorial candidate, State Senator Vincent Shaheen, called Republican Governor Nikki Haley a “whore” during a stump speech this week.


The real "War on Women™" folks...

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It seems more like an example of the war on people who are not definitively Christian, given Haley's history in South Carolina.

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 whembly wrote:
Classy...



SC Democratic gubernatorial candidate, State Senator Vincent Shaheen, called Republican Governor Nikki Haley a “whore” during a stump speech this week.


The real "War on Women™" folks...

Usually it's the GOP who make clangers like this

 
   
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Usually it's the GOP who make clangers like this


At least regarding Nikki Haley.

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Not sure I'd agree with this... at least in my neck of the woods. There's a ton of grassroots "millennial" groups heavily involved in this voting season like in '12.

Obama's youth votes mutinies, 'disaster' election predicted for Dems
A prominent Democratic pollster is warning that the election looks to be “a disaster” for Democrats because younger, so-called millennial voters, are abandoning President Obama’s party.

“Millennials could have the definitive impact on the election, and that impact could be from them not showing up,” warned Celinda Lake.

“They look to have the lowest turnout rates right now which would be a disaster for progressive candidates,” she added in an online interview for Harvard University’s Institute of Politics.

Lake, one of the Washington’s top pollsters, said that younger voters are frustrated with the Democrats and feel abandoned by politics.

“That’s the biggest concern right now for Democrats and progressives in particular, is that millennial voters look very, very discouraged. They don’t think that anyone has particularly spoken to them, anyone has been doing anything for them, it’s a bad economy, it’s expensive education, and all the kinds of concerns that millennials have,” said Lake.

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I think the whole young people being betrayed by politics is happening everywhere, I mean I don't think Canada is much better off then the US

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Speaking for my state, I'm already resigned to accepting that Joni Ernst is going to win, with the kind of "support" that Bruce Bailey Bailey Bailey Braley has gotten.

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Whoa!

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/27/politics/cnn-poll-angry-voters/index.html

Washington (CNN) -- Nearly 7 in 10 Americans are angry at the direction the country is headed and 53% of Americans disapprove of President Barack Obama's job performance, two troubling signs for Democrats one week before the midterm elections, a new CNN/ORC International Poll shows.

Democrats are battling to try and save the Senate majority, while hoping to prevent more losses in the House, which the GOP controls by a 234 to 201 margin.

In the Senate, Republicans need a net gain of six seats, and several state polls in the past month of contested races show that Democrats are in danger of losing control of the majority, and thus Congress. Currently, Democrats control the Senate by a 55-45 margin with two of those seats held by independents that align themselves politically with Democrats.

The CNN/ORC poll shows that 30% of Americans are "very angry" and 38% are "somewhat angry" about the way things are going in the country, while 31% expressed "no anger" at all. CNN Polling Director Keating Holland notes the 31% of "very angry" Americans matches the mood of the country in 2010 when Republicans took back control of the House.

In next week's election, the emotion of anger could be a motivating factor in driving out GOP voters. While 36% of Republican voters said they are "extremely" or "very enthusiastic," about voting this year, only 26% of Democrats use that language to describe themselves, in the CNN/ORC poll.

"That 10 point difference is certain to affect turnout and hurt Democrats' chances in marginal districts," Holland said about the 435 House races on the ballot next Tuesday.

And this enthusiasm gap, coupled with dissatisfaction over how the president is leading the country, is likely to influence the dozen races that will decide which political party controls the Senate for the next two years. A deeper look into the polling data shows that Obama's job performance is only viewed favorably in the Northeast, 51%, and in urban areas, 60%.

All but one of the races that will decide which party controls the Senate in 2015 are located in the three other geographic areas of the country and Obama's approval rating is in the low 40's in each one.

· In the Midwest, where Democrats are trying to hold an open Senate seat in Iowa, Obama has a 56% disapproval rating.

· In the South, where three Democratic incumbents are battling for re-election in Arkansas, Louisiana, North Carolina, and Republicans are trying to hold an open seat in Georgia, as well as protect Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell in Kentucky, the president has a 52% disapproval rating.

· In the West where Democratic incumbents are fighting for another six year term in Alaska and Colorado, Obama's disapproval rating is 55%.
Making matters even more difficult for Democrats is that Obama's disapproval rating among rural voters is 70% and the eight states listed above have sizable rural populations.

Nationally, when asked if they agree with Obama on issues that matter most to them, only 42% said yes, while 55% said they disagreed with him, in the poll.

It is no surprise that Obama has purposely stayed away from campaigning for Senate candidates in difficult contests.

It is widely believed that Democratic seats in Montana, South Dakota, and West Virginia will be won by Republicans in November. If this were to happen, Republicans will only need a net gain of three more seats to take back the Senate majority.

As for Congress, only 13% of Americans approve of how it is handling its job, while 85% disapprove.

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 whembly wrote:


Whoa!

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/27/politics/cnn-poll-angry-voters/index.html

Washington (CNN) -- Nearly 7 in 10 Americans are angry at the direction the country is headed and 53% of Americans disapprove of President Barack Obama's job performance, two troubling signs for Democrats one week before the midterm elections, a new CNN/ORC International Poll shows.

Democrats are battling to try and save the Senate majority, while hoping to prevent more losses in the House, which the GOP controls by a 234 to 201 margin.

In the Senate, Republicans need a net gain of six seats, and several state polls in the past month of contested races show that Democrats are in danger of losing control of the majority, and thus Congress. Currently, Democrats control the Senate by a 55-45 margin with two of those seats held by independents that align themselves politically with Democrats.

The CNN/ORC poll shows that 30% of Americans are "very angry" and 38% are "somewhat angry" about the way things are going in the country, while 31% expressed "no anger" at all. CNN Polling Director Keating Holland notes the 31% of "very angry" Americans matches the mood of the country in 2010 when Republicans took back control of the House.

In next week's election, the emotion of anger could be a motivating factor in driving out GOP voters. While 36% of Republican voters said they are "extremely" or "very enthusiastic," about voting this year, only 26% of Democrats use that language to describe themselves, in the CNN/ORC poll.

"That 10 point difference is certain to affect turnout and hurt Democrats' chances in marginal districts," Holland said about the 435 House races on the ballot next Tuesday.

And this enthusiasm gap, coupled with dissatisfaction over how the president is leading the country, is likely to influence the dozen races that will decide which political party controls the Senate for the next two years. A deeper look into the polling data shows that Obama's job performance is only viewed favorably in the Northeast, 51%, and in urban areas, 60%.

All but one of the races that will decide which party controls the Senate in 2015 are located in the three other geographic areas of the country and Obama's approval rating is in the low 40's in each one.

· In the Midwest, where Democrats are trying to hold an open Senate seat in Iowa, Obama has a 56% disapproval rating.

· In the South, where three Democratic incumbents are battling for re-election in Arkansas, Louisiana, North Carolina, and Republicans are trying to hold an open seat in Georgia, as well as protect Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell in Kentucky, the president has a 52% disapproval rating.

· In the West where Democratic incumbents are fighting for another six year term in Alaska and Colorado, Obama's disapproval rating is 55%.
Making matters even more difficult for Democrats is that Obama's disapproval rating among rural voters is 70% and the eight states listed above have sizable rural populations.

Nationally, when asked if they agree with Obama on issues that matter most to them, only 42% said yes, while 55% said they disagreed with him, in the poll.

It is no surprise that Obama has purposely stayed away from campaigning for Senate candidates in difficult contests.

It is widely believed that Democratic seats in Montana, South Dakota, and West Virginia will be won by Republicans in November. If this were to happen, Republicans will only need a net gain of three more seats to take back the Senate majority.

As for Congress, only 13% of Americans approve of how it is handling its job, while 85% disapprove.

And this was a partisan Congress, so a lot of incumbents voted along party lines. Have they left it too late to suit up?







 
   
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THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE ANGRY!
95% of incumbents then get reelected.

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The national environment is terrible for Democrats, say Democrats
Prominent Democratic strategists are growing increasingly nervous that the national political environment is not only bad for their side but is moving in the wrong direction in the final days before the election, a trend that could not only cost them control of the Senate but also visit double-digit House losses on the party.

“The environment has settled and it’s bad,” said one senior Democratic party operative closely monitoring the party’s prospects this fall. The source added that Democratic candidates’ numbers among independents and seniors — two critically important voting blocs — have begun to erode; “they are just not as friendly to us as they once were,” the source explained. …

There were lots (and lots) of reasons given for the difficulties facing Democrats. The Senate map. The historic trends of second term, midterm elections — aka the “six-year itch.” Voter apathy. But the one factor that virtually every person I talked to cited as the biggest reason for the party’s current predicament was President Obama.

“This off-year election has become almost entirely a referendum on the president,” said one Democratic consultant involved in a number of closely-fought congressional races. “It’s not just anger at [the Affordable Care Act]. He has become, in my opinion wrongly, the symbol of dysfunction in Washington. That has led to a demoralized Democratic base, energized Republicans and those in the middle have an easy way of venting their frustration, and that is to punish the president’s party.”

“It is not ALL Obama but a lot of it is,” said another Democratic strategist knee-deep in the 2014 midterms and granted anonymity to speak candidly. “[People] are very upset with government and people think Democrats are in charge, so they are taking it out on Democrats more than Republicans.”

According to this...the problem for Democrats is the incompetence of the Democrats™ running the federal government and foreign policy.

I guess...

Meh... I'd still say it's mainly party fatigue...

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 whembly wrote:

According to this...the problem for Democrats is the incompetence of the Democrats™ running the federal government and foreign policy.


Well, not really, the argument presented was that people have decided to blame the Obama Administration for the perceived failures of the state. That's a far cry from a claim to incompetence.

And I think that (not incompetence) is a major factor as many people pay no attention to the actions of their state representatives beyond what they hear in campaign commercials*; which are usually about nothing more than riling up the base and the angry.

That being said, extreme anger often correlates highly with extreme disenfranchisement, something the CNN article you posted earlier failed to address. Granted, it is CNN's (or "insert news network's*) analysis of its own poll, so that isn't surprising.



*Especially during mid-terms, when people tend to pay less attention to politics in general.

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Well, did my part and voted today.
   
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^ good. Now you can bish about your politicians.

Look ahead... I still think Hillary is inevitable... but, many thinks she's a horribad campaigner:

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Don't know why I always assumed this thread was about midterm exams.

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Landrieu: My state is kinda racist and sexist, y’know...



Sexist? She was elected since the 90's...

Bobby Jindal begs to differ too...

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Well it is Louisiana.




On a more serious note, it does seem that there was more animosity towards Obama from the get go on account of his race, but they are people who would be against him even if he was white, so it shouldn't effect polls much.

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I just hope when the Senate actually convenes again we know WHO actually has been elected. The recounts and assorted theatre may still be going on.

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I wonder what will end up happening? Complete deadlock... or complete deadlock!

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Will a GOP senate reinstate the time-honored tradition of the filibuster? Or will they enjoy the very thing they complained about (and will a democrat minority bitch about their own invention)?
   
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I can't see any reason a GOP majority would want to bring back the filibuster and hand it to a Democratic minority.

I have no problems with the filibuster in theory - a legislator who feels so strongly about some outrageous thing they need to stand up reading pages of a phone book, acting on principle and sheer will.

I'm very unhappy with how the filibuster was used in practice, though - an arbitrary number to overcome votewise, and anything within that range, you can just threaten one and have it be just as good as actually doing it.

I can't see an easy way to avoid that sort of laziness, so it's probably best that it's gone.


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Will a GOP senate reinstate the time-honored tradition of the filibuster? Or will they enjoy the very thing they complained about (and will a democrat minority bitch about their own invention)?

What filibuster rule?

You mean, when Reid "nuked" the rule to overcome a filibuster by simple majority for political positions (minus the SC)???

if it's good for the goose... it's good for the gander,

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I'm interested to see if Gov. Scoptt Walker pulls off another win.

It looks surprisingly close in the polls, but I still think he is the favorite to win.

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You mean, when Reid "nuked" the rule to overcome a filibuster by simple majority for political positions (minus the SC)???

if it's good for the goose... it's good for the gander,

Yes, for all those republican nominees the president will be putting out there!

Wait...

I'm in Maryland, so the battle between Brown and Hogan is kind of interesting. The papers all keep touting how close the election is because Hogan has support in Western (read: rural conservative) Maryland, while Brown has the I-95 corridor and Baltimore. 538 has Brown with a sizable lead though, which I find way more likely than Maryland suddenly going red. Guess we'll see tomorrow though!
   
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 whembly wrote:

You mean, when Reid "nuked" the rule to overcome a filibuster by simple majority for political positions (minus the SC)???

if it's good for the goose... it's good for the gander,

Yes, for all those republican nominees the president will be putting out there!

Heh...

They'll probably move it back to the original 60. Then, *if* a Republican wins the WH (which I seriously doubt), then if the Rs still has control over the Senate, then knock it down as an "Ace" card.

Wait...

Looks like political positions will be year-to-year then.

I'm in Maryland, so the battle between Brown and Hogan is kind of interesting. The papers all keep touting how close the election is because Hogan has support in Western (read: rural conservative) Maryland, while Brown has the I-95 corridor and Baltimore. 538 has Brown with a sizable lead though, which I find way more likely than Maryland suddenly going red. Guess we'll see tomorrow though!

I can't believe Brown is even close... I didn't think he had a snowball's chance...

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