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2015/01/15 14:24:25
Subject: Re:Post Midterm elections and the general political consequences
Manchu - "But so what? The Bible also says the flood destroyed the world. You only need an allegorical boat to tackle an allegorical flood."
Shespits "Anything i see with YOLO has half naked eleventeen year olds Girls. And of course booze and drugs and more half naked elventeen yearolds Girls. O how i wish to YOLO again!"
Rubiksnoob "Next you'll say driving a stick with a Scandinavian supermodel on your lap while ripping a bong impairs your driving. And you know what, I'M NOT GOING TO STOP, YOU FILTHY COMMUNIST"
2015/01/15 16:09:39
Subject: Re:Post Midterm elections and the general political consequences
Governor Bobby Jindal of Louisiana, a likely 2016 Republican presidential candidate, will give a major foreign policy address next week in London. According to early excerpts of the address, Jindal will use the speech to bash Hillary Clinton, the likely 2016 Democratic presidential candidate, and to go after radical Islam in wake of last week's Paris terrorist attacks.
Referring to Clinton's recent comment on having empathy for the views of America's enemies, Jindal is planning to say, "Our former Secretary of State in America recently said that we need to 'show respect for our enemies' and 'empathize with their perspective and point of view.' Well, yes, understanding our enemies as a means of destroying them, I’m all for that. But empathizing with them as if perhaps we can find some common ground, I have no interest in that kind of mindless naiveté."
He'll continue:
Let me be blunt about this. I want America’s allies to trust us and respect us, and I want our enemies to fear us. Every day our enemies spend their time trying to avoid our justice is a day they are not plotting against us. And I fear that in recent years this has not been the case.
The events of the past several years clearly suggest that America’s allies are often less than certain that they can count on us, and our enemies too often do not fear us. Of course, as Americans we want all people to live in harmony, and we do not desire to have any enemies. But the simple truth is that we do, but that is not of our doing.
There are people in the world who mean us harm, who desire our downfall, and who simply detest us because we stand for freedom. I have no interest in coddling them, or pretending that bad is good. Sugar coating the reality of the situation serves no purpose, we must not be afraid to speak the truth.
A wise man once said, 'the truth will set you free.'
And here's what Jindal will have to say about the recent jihadist attacks in Paris, according to preview of the prepared remarks:
"Now, let’s talk very directly about the elephant in the room…that is, allow me to discuss the recent horrific events in France.
"I will warn you in advance that I’m going to say some things that are not politically correct, so brace yourselves.
"To be clear, I have no interest in defaming any religion, nor do I have any interest in assigning the maniacal acts of radical Islamists to millions of Muslims worldwide.
"I’m interested only in dealing with reality and facts.
"And the fact is that radical Islamists do not believe in freedom or common decency nor are they willing to accommodate it in any way and anywhere.
"We need to stop pretending otherwise.
"We are fools to pretend otherwise. How many Muslims in this world agree with these radicals? I have no idea, I hope it is a small minority.
"But it is clear that far too many do, and it is clear that they must be stopped.
"For example, note what radical Islamists do when given the chance in territories they control either in the Middle East or even in Europe.
"In Iraq, ISIS commits genocide, enslaves women and beheads opponents.
"And in the West, non-assimilationist Muslims establish enclaves and carry out as much of Sharia law as they can without regard for the laws of the democratic countries which provided them a new home.
"It is startling to think that any country would allow, even unofficially, for a so called 'no-go zone.'
"The idea that a free country would allow for specific areas of its country to operate in an autonomous way that is not free and is in direct opposition to its laws is hard to fathom.
"Another example is the rise of anti-Semitism in many places, even in continental Europe.
"Over the last couple of years we have been alarmed to see blatant and astoundingly bold acts of persecution and bigotry against Jewish persons and property, to such a degree that Jewish emigration from Europe is increasing.
"How does such evil rise again in democratic countries?
"I believe it is because radical Islamists have been given too wide a berth to establish their own nation within a nation. I am encouraged to see France’s Prime Minister speak out against this travesty.
"In America we are quite happy to welcome freedom loving people, regardless of religion, who want to abide by our laws allowing for freedom of expression and a host of other democratic freedoms.
"But we will never allow for any sect of people to set up their own areas where they establish their own set of laws.
"We have to stop pretending that right and wrong do not exist.
"For example – Sharia law is not just different than our law, it’s not just a cultural difference, it is oppression and it is wrong.
"It subjugates women and treats them as property, and it is antithetical to valuing all of human life equally.
"It is the very definition of oppression. We must stop pretending otherwise.
"In my country, Christianity is the largest religion. And we require exactly no one to conform to it. And we do not discriminate against anyone who does not conform to it. It’s called freedom.
"A so-called religion that allows for and endorses killing those who oppose it is not a religion at all, it is a terrorist movement.
"I do continue to believe and hope that most Muslims oppose these bloodthirsty acts of terror.
"But that is not the point. Whether they do or not, the point is that radical Islamists do advocate the slaughter of those who reject their views.
"Free peoples everywhere must not pretend otherwise and must not coddle those who hold these views. And they must have courage.
"I favor robust debate on everything – on religion, on policy, on politics, on everything. It is called freedom.
"But when debate stops, and when a movement decides that they no longer want to debate their ideas, but rather they want to simply subdue, silence, and kill those who disagree…that is called terrorism, barbarism, and inhuman behavior, and it cannot and must not be tolerated.
"Let’s be honest here, Islam has a problem.
"If Islam does not support what is happening in the name of Islam, then they need to stand up and stop it. Many Islamic leaders argue that these are the acts of a radical few.
"Ok, it is their problem, and they need to deal with it.
"Muslim leaders must make clear that anyone who commits acts of terror in the name of Islam is in fact not practicing Islam at all.
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2015/01/15 23:40:36
Subject: Post Midterm elections and the general political consequences
How is shouting freedom more times than Mel Gibson in Braveheart building foreign policy acumen? He's just creating freedom soundbites that will play really well with people who also like to scream freedom again and again.
I wish I had time for all the game systems I own, let alone want to own...
2015/01/16 00:06:04
Subject: Re:Post Midterm elections and the general political consequences
Saying that it's pretty much Islam's problem to sort out their fundamentalists otherwise they're getting tarred with same brush seems pretty strong and reasonable to me.
The first politician to do that might just get my vote for the sheer honesty of it.
"Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
"You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks
2015/01/17 01:33:27
Subject: Re:Post Midterm elections and the general political consequences
Medium of Death wrote: Off topic, but why didn't you vote for this clearly prescient man?
Because he didn't predict anything that numerous, non-talking head, analysts did not also predict and he could not have done anything to prevent the inevitable.
As an example: nearly every survey regarding domestic support for US military action abroad, beginning in the early 90's and extending to the early 2000's, indicated that more than 80% of Americans supported action against Saddam Hussein. And you can be damn sure that some member of congress would call for it, making it a virtual necessity.
Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh.
2015/01/19 19:24:25
Subject: Re:Post Midterm elections and the general political consequences
I suspect it won't make a difference - not 5 years in. No one cares about the SOTU during a second term unless something extreme has happened recently.
lord_blackfang wrote: Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
Flinty wrote: The benefit of slate is that its.actually a.rock with rock like properties. The downside is that it's a rock
2015/01/26 17:23:04
Subject: Re:Post Midterm elections and the general political consequences
New York Daily News wrote:The Republican Party’s most treasured rabble-rouser was forced to improvise part of her speech at a Tea Party conference in Iowa Saturday after her teleprompter apparently broke in the middle of her delivery.
I think this is fitting, given the context:
It isn't often that you get to say, "Hey, maybe you shouldn't follow your own advice..."
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d-usa wrote: "When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people."
2015/01/26 21:23:53
Subject: Post Midterm elections and the general political consequences
"Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
"You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks
2015/01/26 21:48:14
Subject: Re:Post Midterm elections and the general political consequences
I can't count the number of times on these forums it was stated that the only reason President Obama gives decent speeches is because he uses a teleprompter despite all evidence to the contrary, and yet Mrs. Palin loses her teleprompter and immediately reveals herself as a gibbering idiot, and silence.
I'll chalk it up the thankfully dwindling interest in The Half-Term Governor.
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lord_blackfang wrote: Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
Flinty wrote: The benefit of slate is that its.actually a.rock with rock like properties. The downside is that it's a rock
2015/01/27 01:45:59
Subject: Re:Post Midterm elections and the general political consequences
Ouze wrote: I can't count the number of times on these forums it was stated that the only reason President Obama gives decent speeches is because he uses a teleprompter despite all evidence to the contrary, and yet Mrs. Palin loses her teleprompter and immediately reveals herself as a gibbering idiot, and silence.
I'll chalk it up the thankfully dwindling interest in The Half-Term Governor.
I like her still...
Because I know she isn't the Savior.
Unlike the current Obama worshipings.
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2015/01/27 06:48:38
Subject: Re:Post Midterm elections and the general political consequences
I'm quite sure ms. Palin would tell you there is only ONE saviour .
I hope she gets through to the final event, if so it will be the first presidential race i've been interested in.
Whembley you like Sarah Palin?? But she's a middle america demogogue , she relies on good old values and crud like that to sustain her popularity (a s far as I see it). Next thing you know she'll be claiming that Mexicans need to speak english and Americans need to reclaim America.
Manchu - "But so what? The Bible also says the flood destroyed the world. You only need an allegorical boat to tackle an allegorical flood."
Shespits "Anything i see with YOLO has half naked eleventeen year olds Girls. And of course booze and drugs and more half naked elventeen yearolds Girls. O how i wish to YOLO again!"
Rubiksnoob "Next you'll say driving a stick with a Scandinavian supermodel on your lap while ripping a bong impairs your driving. And you know what, I'M NOT GOING TO STOP, YOU FILTHY COMMUNIST"
2015/01/27 07:03:35
Subject: Re:Post Midterm elections and the general political consequences
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
Admit it, Democrats are just a little butthurt that they didn't have the first female Presidential/Vice presidential candidate. That's just gotta get their knockers in a knot.
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Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
Grey Templar wrote: Admit it, Democrats are just a little butthurt that they didn't have the first female Presidential/Vice presidential candidate. That's just gotta get their knockers in a knot.
Sure, just like everyone who voted against Obama is a racist.
Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh.
2015/01/27 07:52:14
Subject: Re:Post Midterm elections and the general political consequences
Grey Templar wrote: Admit it, Democrats are just a little butthurt that they didn't have the first female Presidential/Vice presidential candidate. That's just gotta get their knockers in a knot.
Sure, just like everyone who voted against Obama is a racist.
Bam.
2015/01/27 13:47:00
Subject: Re:Post Midterm elections and the general political consequences
Grey Templar wrote: Admit it, Democrats are just a little butthurt that they didn't have the first female Presidential/Vice presidential candidate. That's just gotta get their knockers in a knot.
Ummm...the Democrats DID have the first female vice-presidential candidate.
2015/01/27 14:06:43
Subject: Re:Post Midterm elections and the general political consequences
Grey Templar wrote: Admit it, Democrats are just a little butthurt that they didn't have the first female Presidential/Vice presidential candidate. That's just gotta get their knockers in a knot.
You mean Geraldine Ferraro doesn't count?
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2015/01/27 17:41:05
Subject: Re:Post Midterm elections and the general political consequences
I always really liked her. She seemed to have a good head on her shoulders.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
