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http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/20/justice/oregon-swastika-assault/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

(CNN) -- Three Portland, Oregon, teens are accused of luring a classmate into a shed, hitting him in the head with a crowbar, shooting him with a BB gun -- and then using a box cutter to carve a swastika into his forehead.

"There is no understanding what they did," Kelli Murrain, the victim's mother, told CNN affiliate KPTV. "Roll it around in your head and you just go, 'Oh my God.' For the grace of God I could have lost my youngest son."

The incident took place February 10, police say.

On Wednesday, authorities charged the teens with kidnapping, robbery, assault and menacing.

The suspects -- Jenna Montgomery, 15, Blue Christian Kalmbach, 15, and Jess Taylor, 17 -- have been charged as adults and were being held on nearly $3 million bail each.

A 14-year-old, also accused of taking part, will be tried as a juvenile.

According to court documents, Montgomery told police detectives that she was the "bait" to lure the 16-year-old victim, Dustyn Murrain, to the shed where the alleged assault took place.

The teens were after the victim's skateboard and cash, according to a probable cause affidavit.

All of them are students at David Douglas High School.

"I just think the whole idea is just messed up," senior Mark Collins told affiliate KATU. "Why would you do that to someone? Especially with a crowbar and BB gun."

It's not clear whether the wound on Dustyn's forehead will scar.

Kelli Murrain said her son will wear a silicon patch there to help with the healing.

"He's been severely traumatized not just physically, but emotionally," Murrain said. "It's something he's gonna live with forever, especially if the scar of (a) swastika doesn't go away. Every time he looks in the mirror he's gonna have that memory."

 
   
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Wait what? That's... insane.

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Birmingham, UK

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A beat down for a robbery i can understand but carving a swastika into the vics head? Mind blown.

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Decrepit Dakkanaut






New Orleans, LA

I have no problem with putting him down before he rapes and kills his way across the Northwest.

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So... when do we get to use oldy style catapults to fling criminals at pointy things?
   
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New Orleans, LA

Fling him to Canada. It's right there!

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Well you know, Boys will Be boys. This is jus a case of bullying and the victim should be happy he got this opprotunity to learn and grow stroner

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Toronto, Canada

I hope the victim has a crazy vigilante father that will destroy them all.

   
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Sheffield, City of University and Northern-ness

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Well you know, Boys will Be boys. This is jus a case of bullying and the victim should be happy he got this opprotunity to learn and grow stroner
Two things:
1) please say this is sarcasm.
2) Seriously. Please say this is sarcasm.

   
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This is obliviously Quentin Tarantino's fault.

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 Goliath wrote:
 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Well you know, Boys will Be boys. This is jus a case of bullying and the victim should be happy he got this opprotunity to learn and grow stroner
Two things:
1) please say this is sarcasm.
2) Seriously. Please say this is sarcasm.


His two settings are childlike impotent rage and what I can only assume is an attempt at a sarcastic parody of posters that have disagreed with him.

I'm fairly sure this is the latter.

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Maybe you should put a notice in your sig Hotsauce Or just end all your posts with /sarcam XD

   
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Scotland

I wholeheartedly agree that these eejits should be tried as adults.

However it begs the question, why have a system in place which deals with criminals under the age of 18 (or 21 or whatever) and then decide not to use it. Whilst I believe they knew full well what they done, my principles require me to disagree with the decision to try them a adults when there is a system in place which deal with young offenders.

Don't get me wrong, the judge should give them he full scope of his punitive remit, however, putting children as young as this into full-fledged jail will solve nothing in the long run and could prove much more damaging in the long run.

Iranna.

 
   
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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Well you know, Boys will Be boys. This is jus a case of bullying and the victim should be happy he got this opprotunity to learn and grow stroner


At least 2 of them have girls names. Girls will be girls?

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Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
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 Iranna wrote:
However it begs the question, why have a system in place which deals with criminals under the age of 18 (or 21 or whatever) and then decide not to use it. Whilst I believe they knew full well what they done, my principles require me to disagree with the decision to try them a adults when there is a system in place which deal with young offenders.


Our Juvinille Justice system is an even bigger joke than the normal Justice system. A slap on the wrist followed by release and a sealed record. Juvi has an even higher reviticism rate than the normal prison system, and our revitisism rate is really high as is. A slap on the wrist followed by release and a sealed record is neither an effective punishment or rehabilitation for anything more dastardly than hijacking the principle's ride. They're in Highschool and given the servity of such crimes probably carry a 12-15 year term for an adult, trying them as children is not justice.

Obviously one of the attackers is being tried as a Juvinille, so the prosecution is using their discretion to charge three as a adults and one not presumably the fourth turned on the other three or the prosecution decided their involvement didn't warrant being tried in a more serious forum).

   
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 Ahtman wrote:
This is obliviously Quentin Tarantino's fault.

My first thought.

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Two guys and a girl. Their parents should have probably named them differently. Also for some reason the 14 year old is shown rather than the other older one.




 kronk wrote:
I have no problem with putting him down before he rapes and kills his way across the Northwest.


What?

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New Orleans, LA

He's a psychopath. Put him down like a rabid dog. Don't try him as a Juvenile, try him as an adult. The problems with the Juvy system have already been pointed out by LordOfHats.

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For a second there it looked like you were talking about the victim.

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 kronk wrote:
He's a psychopath. Put him down like a rabid dog. Don't try him as a Juvenile, try him as an adult. The problems with the Juvy system have already been pointed out by LordOfHats.


Isn't it a 14 year old girl that was used to lure the boy there, I can assume that it is her being tried as a juvenile? I don't think she should though. Your original post didn't hint to what you were talking about hence the confusion. I thought I was missing something.

   
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New Orleans, LA

Sorry. I was just knee-jerk reacting bluntly.

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Either way I think your right. What they did was pre-meditated and royally fethed up. They should all be tried as adults.

   
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 kronk wrote:
He's a psychopath. Put him down like a rabid dog. Don't try him as a Juvenile, try him as an adult. The problems with the Juvy system have already been pointed out by LordOfHats.

Saying that makes you sound like a psychopath...

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Carve the Nazi symbol in their foreheads ... then send them into Gen Pop in prison .... talk about fun times for a guy named Blue in there.

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 Iron_Captain wrote:
 kronk wrote:
He's a psychopath. Put him down like a rabid dog. Don't try him as a Juvenile, try him as an adult. The problems with the Juvy system have already been pointed out by LordOfHats.

Saying that makes you sound like a psychopath...


Disagreeing with me makes you sound like a bleeding heart...

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 kronk wrote:
 Iron_Captain wrote:
 kronk wrote:
He's a psychopath. Put him down like a rabid dog. Don't try him as a Juvenile, try him as an adult. The problems with the Juvy system have already been pointed out by LordOfHats.

Saying that makes you sound like a psychopath...


Disagreeing with me makes you a bleeding heart...


Or worse, a communist
   
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New Orleans, LA

Saying communist in red makes you sound like a tea party member...

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 kronk wrote:
Saying communist in red makes you sound like a tea party member...


Or worse, a...

gak, I can't really think of anything.
   
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 kronk wrote:
Saying communist in red makes you sound like a tea party member...
Disparaging the Tea Party makes you an Illegal Alien Terrorist!

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 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
Wait what? That's... insane.

Two things we agree on

 
   
 
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