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So I have two armies right now that I am enjoying playing with and am finishing up painting and I was beginning to think of a third army. Right now, both my armies are melee heavy and neither involve any psykers. Well, I have run a weirdboy with my Orks once, but it was a proxy. But even if I were to run a weirdboy, the Ork psyker is nowhere near the power of other psykers in the game.

So I was thinking that for my third army I would get something that played a little different, more shooting oriented, and something with a lot of psykers, and a lot of psychic abilities. This has led me to two choices. Either Tzeentch Daemons or Eldar. I thought maybe about going CSM with chaos sorcerers, but I dont think that's enough.

With the daemons pink horrors, they are all psychic and they all shoot, and then you get the heralds for all their psychic powers, and a lord of change for more psychic stuff. Seems like a pretty fun army.
Then you have Eldar, who can stick Warlocks in almost every unit, and the HQ can be a psyker as well. And their shooting is some of the best in the game

So my question is, which army do you think is more fun to play as a psyker-heavy, shooting build? Eldar, Daemons, or something else? And with your answer, providing a sample build would be helpful as well.

Eldar Warlocks can now only join Guardian-based squads, not Wraith or Aspects any more.
But, the Spiritseer can, as a normal IC. It's pretty much a unit buffer, with no upgrade choices.
There's the Farseer, which is more of a combat-psyker, and gets weapon and transport options.

Warlocks are taken as the Seer Council, and split off a model at a time to their assigned unit.

Then there's the Eldar supplement, if you want more Spiritseers.

Look at 'nids for psychic attacks

Warlock-heavy Eldar could be pretty fun, based around Guardian Storm and Jetbike squads and led by Farseers.

Personally, although it's got its weaknesses, I'm quite fond of my Thousand Sons chaos marine army. I generally run Ahriman, backed up by two or three units of Thousand Sons, with Obliterators (modelled as Sorcerers) for my anti-armour weapons. My second HQ slot is usually a Warpsmith with the Scrolls of Magnus, making him (well, her) a psyker as well. Not optimised, because I don't run much in the way of vehicles for her to repair, but nice as a combat character.

Well as you being an Ork player you may enjoy Daemons quite a bit (if you enjoy the randomness.. except this randomness can actually benefit you quite a bit at times). They're still pretty damn good in Melee and overall require alot more thought to play than Eldar in my opinion. Plus you'll be alot less of a neckbeard.

All very good ideas, thanks for your responses.

In regards to the Eldar I could have a bunch of Guardian squads with a warlock attached to each (in wave serpents), a farseer in a jetbike squad and then either a fire prism, or some war walkers, or the flyer. Does that sound like a good build?
Also, I am not a fan of the jetbike models that much, so I would probably use the Dark Eldar jetbikes and do some kitbashing.

Daemons seem really fun also, and I could probably make this army for a lot less $ than Eldar. and painting the pink horrors would go much quicker. I do also love the Daemon Prince model. The Daemon Prince model, and some of the warlock models are probably some of my favorite in the GW range.
The build with daemons would be something like, two squads of 15 horrors, a Lord of Change with some rewards, a couple heralds of tzeentch and a daemon prince and some screamers.

I didn't list Chaos Space Marines, but that was my secret third choice. Ahriman and the thousand sons have some cool features going on. And If I did go this route I could ally them with my Orks, which makes them a more functional choice. So I could add this small psychic list to the orks for minimal $$ and still get to play them with a solid Ork foundation.

As for Nids, Yes they have some psychic abilities, but I am not interested in playing another horde-type melee army. I realize you can do a nidzilla list, but you still have to have at least a few troop choices. I'm really looking for a more ranged army, and if that ranged army has some psychic stuff to it, then that's all the better.

Nid army built around spinegaunts and termagants could be pretty nasty on the shooty front.

Hmmmm, would that be like running a bunch of shoota boys with stronger guns?

Because I like some of the bigger Nid models, like the Hive Tyrant and the Mowloc, but the troop choices with nids would involve up to 30 of those little buggers per squad. I don't know, maybe it just comes down to over all aesthetic preference. I'm not feeling Tyranids.

Nid shooting tends to be high-volume, low-power for the small ones, and higher-power, still high-volume for the bigger ones. That said, I mostly know from playing against 'nids, so you'd need to talk to someone who actually uses the army to make a proper decision

 Icculus wrote:
All very good ideas, thanks for your responses.

In regards to the Eldar I could have a bunch of Guardian squads with a warlock attached to each (in wave serpents), a farseer in a jetbike squad and then either a fire prism, or some war walkers, or the flyer. Does that sound like a good build?
Also, I am not a fan of the jetbike models that much, so I would probably use the Dark Eldar jetbikes and do some kitbashing.

Daemons seem really fun also, and I could probably make this army for a lot less $ than Eldar. and painting the pink horrors would go much quicker. I do also love the Daemon Prince model. The Daemon Prince model, and some of the warlock models are probably some of my favorite in the GW range.
The build with daemons would be something like, two squads of 15 horrors, a Lord of Change with some rewards, a couple heralds of tzeentch and a daemon prince and some screamers.

Don't forget that Tzeentch Daemons also gives you Flamers in the Elites slot for added template fun, as well as Screamers who can do a slashing attack when they turbo-boost. (so it's kinda like shooting)
Flamers are honestly severely under-rated... Run them alongside your LoC as a supporting unit to clear out hordes or basic units, while your LoC goes and smacks stuff in combat/casts a bunch of Divination blessings, etc...

The Burny Chariot is useless in 40k, but you can use the kit + some regular Flamers to convert up a unit of Changebringers, (Flamers riding Discs), and count them as Plaguedrones, which in turn can take a shooting attack as an upgrade.
Plus you get a Tzherald per box, along with some Blue Horrors for making into tokens and various other bitz... With a little work you can even convert that Exalted Flamer into a Tzeentchian themed Spawn and count them as a Beast of Nurgle.

 Icculus wrote:
So I have two armies right now that I am enjoying playing with and am finishing up painting and I was beginning to think of a third army. Right now, both my armies are melee heavy and neither involve any psykers. Well, I have run a weirdboy with my Orks once, but it was a proxy. But even if I were to run a weirdboy, the Ork psyker is nowhere near the power of other psykers in the game.

So I was thinking that for my third army I would get something that played a little different, more shooting oriented, and something with a lot of psykers, and a lot of psychic abilities. This has led me to two choices. Either Tzeentch Daemons or Eldar. I thought maybe about going CSM with chaos sorcerers, but I dont think that's enough.

With the daemons pink horrors, they are all psychic and they all shoot, and then you get the heralds for all their psychic powers, and a lord of change for more psychic stuff. Seems like a pretty fun army.
Then you have Eldar, who can stick Warlocks in almost every unit, and the HQ can be a psyker as well. And their shooting is some of the best in the game

So my question is, which army do you think is more fun to play as a psyker-heavy, shooting build? Eldar, Daemons, or something else? And with your answer, providing a sample build would be helpful as well.

I...kinda like Eldar, and they look cool, ...and you can build an army several ways...?

Grey knights maybe? Lots of strength 8 shooting and force weapons. I just started myn and the low model count is a great option to horde armys. Just another option on the table, the others listed may fit in better for what you want.