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Wow not much to be summerized. Lots of filler images, lots of big print. Total of 6 pages of rules including the super heavy walker rules.

The knight detachment is separate from allies 1-3 can be taken, Do not score

Cannot ally with Chaos, Daemons, Crons, Orks or Nids.

Allies of convenience with Eldar and Grey Knights

Desperate allies with Dark Eldar and Tau



Imperial Knight Armies
These rules are for the primary detachment of knights:
Knights are scoring and one is the warlord.

Knightly ranks
"Players that want to include knights apparent or seneschals in their games must roll a dice for each of their knights errant or knights paladin (other then the warlord) at the same time as warlord traits and refer the knightly rank table below to see what the rank that knight has"
1: Knight apparent. Subtract 1 from the knights Ws and Bs. in addition a apparents ion shield confers a 5+ invulnerable save instead of the normal 4+
2-5: Knight. Standard rules
6: Seneschal. Add 1 to the knights Ws and Bs. In addition a knight seneschals ion shield confers a 3+ invulnerable save insteaf of the normal 4+

Warlord table:
The warlord is always a Seneschal
1. Master of the Hunt: All friendly knights in 12" add +1 to run or charge range
2. Fearsome Reputation: Enemy units within 12" of the warlord use the lowest leadership value
3. Master of the Joust: The Knight warlord rerolls failed to hit rolls in any assault phase in which he successfully charges into close combat
4. Master of the Field: The Warlord up to D3 friendly knights have outflank
5: Master of Siege: The warlord and all friendly knights add +1 to rolls they make on the building damage table
6: Indomitable: The warlord has "It will not die"

That's it. Not much to this book. Scary 3++ warlord

Allies matrix how is it?

Are there any rules in it besides the 2 knights from the WD and base super heavy walker/Strengh D stuff and warlord table?

Are there any other units or just the paladin and errant?

How many units are there in the codex?

phatonic - Battle Brothers: Everyone Else
Allies of Convenience: Eldar,Grey Knights
Desperate Allies: Tau, Dark Eldar
Apocalypse: Orks, Necrons, Chaos Demons, Chaos Space Marines, Tyranids

Carnage - There are roughly 3-4 pages of relevant rules. The rest is fluff and art.

Reyzn and Skaven - Those are the only two units.

 phatonic wrote:
Allies matrix how is it?

Cannot ally with Chaos, Daemons, Crons, Orks or Nids.

Allies of convenience with Eldar and Grey Knights

Desperate allies with Dark Eldar and Tau


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 SkavenLord wrote:
How many units are there in the codex?

2, its the exact pages from the white dwarf, there is only 6 pages of rules out of 64, and half is the super heavy stuff.

Was it worth what the cost of a full codex?

 Savageconvoy wrote:
Was it worth what the cost of a full codex?

Good god no. The primary army rules is literally 1 page. The summery I just posted covers the entire codex minus fluff (who cares!).

Seriously? You have to roll off to see what the knight's rank is?

That's terrible game design. They should have had each rank be purchasable, bound it to a FOC, and given each rank it's own stat line and load-out in the army list.

Then the book would at least have the illusion of looking like a codex.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Seriously? You have to roll off to see what the knight's rank is?

That's terrible game design. They should have had each rank be purchasable, bound it to a FOC, and given each rank it's own stat line and load-out in the army list.

Then the book would at least have the illusion of looking like a codex.

If they did that they might have to cut out one of the multiple full page spreads!

So instead of keeping it in White Dwarf, they felt the need to troll everyone and release the same rules in a $41 book... Nice

 rabidguineapig wrote:
So instead of keeping it in White Dwarf, they felt the need to troll everyone and release the same rules in a $41 book... Nice

They are not quite the same, actually.

The new rules clarify the Allies Matrix (before the book, Xenos and heretics could take knights), and gives rules to field a full knight army.

Of course, considering how minimal these rules are, they probably could have fit it in a White Dwarf anyway.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 rabidguineapig wrote:
So instead of keeping it in White Dwarf, they felt the need to troll everyone and release the same rules in a $41 book... Nice

They are not quite the same, actually.

The new rules clarify the Allies Matrix (before the book, Xenos and heretics could take knights), and gives rules to field a full knight army.

Of course, considering how minimal these rules are, they probably could have fit it in a White Dwarf anyway.

Yeah that probably didn't need a hardback and limited edition release, though at least it's not exactly the same. It just sort of bugs me that every other codex slated to be released (I play Guard, my friend plays Orks/BA) has been pushed back a month because of this new "army."

Its the white dwarf + army rules, detachment rules and ally matrix. And the super heavy walker rules. Totalling 6 pages.

Could have easily been printed and sold with the knight. Rip off.

 Ravenous D wrote:
Its the white dwarf + army rules, detachment rules and ally matrix. And the super heavy walker rules. Totalling 6 pages.

Could have easily been printed and sold with the knight. Rip off.

Yep. Going to invoke my sig here:

When in doubt, blame Kirby

What I find amusing is more charts. Because that's what the game needs - random freaking charts.

I have much respect for Jervis Johnson and what he brought to the game and company, but if he's the one clamoring for a return to Rogue Trader-era randomness for as many things as possible, it's time to put him out to pasture.

If they want that republish a special 40k Skirmish Rogue Trader edition with everything random, and keep it out of the real game.

WayneTheGame wrote:
What I find amusing is more charts. Because that's what the game needs - random freaking charts.

I have much respect for Jervis Johnson and what he brought to the game and company, but if he's the one clamoring for a return to Rogue Trader-era randomness, time to put him out to pasture.

Don't you know? 6th ed is TableHammer. Before it was TransportHammer.

So...hows the fluff?

I mean, there are a few of us that actually care about that more than the rules.....

Mostly filler. Lots of pretty art. Still going through it.

Any reference to the non-errant/non-paladin knights? (I.E. Lancer, Crusader, Castellan, Baron, Warden)

If you have the WD, and were just planning on allying them, and already owned an apoc/escalation book for the SH rules, would there be any reason to own this book?

 Nevelon wrote:
If you have the WD, and were just planning on allying them, and already owned an apoc/escalation book for the SH rules, would there be any reason to own this book?

Without even seeing it I will assume that answer is NO

Edit: You'd probably run into a problem at a GW store or in tournaments not having the codex though...

 rabidguineapig wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:
If you have the WD, and were just planning on allying them, and already owned an apoc/escalation book for the SH rules, would there be any reason to own this book?

Without even seeing it I will assume that answer is NO

Edit: You'd probably run into a problem at a GW store or in tournaments not having the codex though...

The WD had a pretty thorough rules page on it. Looked completely playable.

I don’t play at official GW stores, and last I checked my FLGS is not allowing them in out local tournaments. I’m much more likely to pick up the model from my store if all I need is the $4 WD for the rules. If I need to buy the full codex just to ally in one, I’ll pass on the whole thing.

Lol @ the completely pointless table. Like seriously, totally pointless.

The money spent on this 'codex' was a total waste, but perhaps it may yet save others...

 Nevelon wrote:

 rabidguineapig wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:
If you have the WD, and were just planning on allying them, and already owned an apoc/escalation book for the SH rules, would there be any reason to own this book?

Without even seeing it I will assume that answer is NO

Edit: You'd probably run into a problem at a GW store or in tournaments not having the codex though...

The WD had a pretty thorough rules page on it. Looked completely playable.

Except for the part allowing nids to take knights, since the author "forgot" to add in restrictions.

So do I understand this correctly: in the Knight army the warlord is automatically a Seneschal, no need to roll, and rolling for the ranks of the other knights is optional?

 Crimson wrote:
So do I understand this correctly: in the Knight army the warlord is automatically a Seneschal, no need to roll, and rolling for the ranks of the other knights is optional?

The WL is always a seneschal. You must roll for ranks, it seems.

 Crimson wrote:
So do I understand this correctly: in the Knight army the warlord is automatically a Seneschal, no need to roll, and rolling for the ranks of the other knights is optional?

That's kinda how it reads from what I can see as well.

Yup, you automatically have a warlord with a 3++ shield.

And its weird, its seems like that is an optional rule as well. "If you feel like potentially screwing one of your models go nuts, if you want."