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The Departmento Munitorum is pretty known for being responsiable for the Imperial Guard, mainly equipping the various IG units and shipping them out to the various warzones. Now the only reference I can find to the Navy is that the Departmento liaises with the Fleet to transport Guardsmen to wherever they're needed.

So who's responsible for equipping the Fleet and by extension the Navy's air units?

The Munitorum.
Next please.


Long answer.
The Munitorum is overseen by 3 High Lords (Lord Commander Militant, Chancellor of the Estate and the Master of the Administratum) and supplies all military forces through a tithe on planets. Tithes are men, money and material.

The Imperial Navy comes under the auspices of the Imperial Fleet which is controlled by the Priesthood of Terra. The Imperial Fleet also calls upon the Merchant Fleet and organisation is split across the five Segmentae Majoris.

 Gogsnik wrote:
The Imperial Navy comes under the auspices of the Imperial Fleet which is controlled by the Priesthood of Terra. The Imperial Fleet also calls upon the Merchant Fleet and organisation is split across the five Segmentae Majoris.

Right.

Guardsmen refer to the Departmento, Navy crewmen and aviators refer to the Fleet.

Thanks.

 stormwell wrote:

 Gogsnik wrote:
The Imperial Navy comes under the auspices of the Imperial Fleet which is controlled by the Priesthood of Terra. The Imperial Fleet also calls upon the Merchant Fleet and organisation is split across the five Segmentae Majoris.

Right.

Guardsmen refer to the Departmento, Navy crewmen and aviators refer to the Fleet.

Thanks.

The Fleet isn't under the control of the Priesthood of Teera since they have been explicitly banned from having men under arms.
While the Fleet is separate from the Imperial Guard they both are supplied via the Munitorum.

 purplefood wrote:

 stormwell wrote:

 Gogsnik wrote:
The Imperial Navy comes under the auspices of the Imperial Fleet which is controlled by the Priesthood of Terra. The Imperial Fleet also calls upon the Merchant Fleet and organisation is split across the five Segmentae Majoris.

Right.

Guardsmen refer to the Departmento, Navy crewmen and aviators refer to the Fleet.

Thanks.

The Fleet isn't under the control of the Priesthood of Teera since they have been explicitly banned from having men under arms.
While the Fleet is separate from the Imperial Guard they both are supplied via the Munitorum.

Yeah, think of the Munitorum as the wholesaler to two different businesses. That analogy is awful but I'm sleepy and I'm sure you get the gist.

EDIT: Actually apologies having checked on the Lex, apparently the Fleet is not under the Munitorum but is a separate part of the overall Administratum. Bare in mind the 'Fleet' oversees all Imperial space traffic beyond just the Imperial Navy, including merchant and civilian vessels.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Administratum#Divisions_of_the_Administratum

It works well enough.

 purplefood wrote:

The Fleet isn't under the control of the Priesthood of Teera since they have been explicitly banned from having men under arms.
While the Fleet is separate from the Imperial Guard they both are supplied via the Munitorum.

The 'Priesthood' is the name given to the vast army of pen pushers that run the Imperium, it is not to be confused with the Ecclesiarchy.

 Gogsnik wrote:

 purplefood wrote:

The Fleet isn't under the control of the Priesthood of Teera since they have been explicitly banned from having men under arms.
While the Fleet is separate from the Imperial Guard they both are supplied via the Munitorum.

The 'Priesthood' is the name given to the vast army of pen pushers that run the Imperium, it is not to be confused with the Ecclesiarchy.

The Adeptus Terra formally consists of:
Administratum
Departmento Munitorum
Officio Assassinorum
Adeptus Astra Telepathica
Adeptus Astronomica
Adeptus Custodes
Adeptus Arbites
Imperial Guard
Imperial Fleet
Adeptus Astartes
Navis Nobilite
Templars Psykologis
Officio Sabatorum
Planetary Governors

So unless you are claiming that the Officio Assassinorum is somehow responsible for arming, outfitting and recruiting the Imperial Fleet you should probably at least try to be a touch more accurate.

#JustSayin' #YOLO #Shotsfired

I was perfectly accurate in what I said, you were the one that thought the Priesthood was the Ecclesiarchy and as such subject to the Decree Passive and that the Imperial Navy came under the auspices of the Munitorium but now you're lecturing me on the Adeptus Terra? Good job on grossly over-reacting

For the record, 'Almost every ship in the Imperium is part of the Imperial Fleet controlled by the Priesthood.' Battlefleet Gothic page 86

The adeptus terra have been a priesthood since before the ministorum existed.

Hey purplefood, you're wrong a lot.

The departmento munitorum have to exist since the guard are planetary armies that are taken away from their planets. The fleet doesn't have that problem.

 purplefood wrote:

 Gogsnik wrote:

 purplefood wrote:

The Fleet isn't under the control of the Priesthood of Teera since they have been explicitly banned from having men under arms.
While the Fleet is separate from the Imperial Guard they both are supplied via the Munitorum.

The 'Priesthood' is the name given to the vast army of pen pushers that run the Imperium, it is not to be confused with the Ecclesiarchy.

The Adeptus Terra formally consists of:
Administratum
Departmento Munitorum
Officio Assassinorum
Adeptus Astra Telepathica
Adeptus Astronomica
Adeptus Custodes
Adeptus Arbites
Imperial Guard
Imperial Fleet
Adeptus Astartes
Navis Nobilite
Templars Psykologis
Officio Sabatorum
Planetary Governors

So unless you are claiming that the Officio Assassinorum is somehow responsible for arming, outfitting and recruiting the Imperial Fleet you should probably at least try to be a touch more accurate.

#JustSayin' #YOLO #Shotsfired

Me thinks you missed the point. And your grasping for straws. Though, I do like that you have a detailed way of thinking.

The Imperial Navy is part of the Imperial Fleet, which is a part of the Administratum.
The Imperial Guard is part of the Departmento Munitorum which is also a part of the Administratum. The Administratum is the largest part of the Adeptus Terra, also known as the Priesthood of Terra.

Right, so it would be the Fleet who recruits and equips the Navy's aircraft pilots then?

 stormwell wrote:
Right, so it would be the Fleet who recruits and equips the Navy's aircraft pilots then?

No, The Imperial Fleet is nothing more than the collection of most ships in the Imperium (Navy, Merchant and private). The Imperial Navy would take care of recruiting and equipping itself (either at Segmentum or Sector level). Management at Imperial Fleet level is done directly by the Administratum and is much higher up. It concerns itself more with coordination between the different Segmentae and coordination between the Fleet's different branches and other very high level management.

 Iron_Captain wrote:

 stormwell wrote:
Right, so it would be the Fleet who recruits and equips the Navy's aircraft pilots then?

No, The Imperial Fleet is nothing more than the collection of most ships in the Imperium (Navy, Merchant and private). The Imperial Navy would take care of recruiting and equipping itself (either at Segmentum or Sector level). Management at Imperial Fleet level is done directly by the Administratum and is much higher up. It concerns itself more with coordination between the different Segmentae and coordination between the Fleet's different branches and other very high level management.

Yeah, kinda meant the Navy....should've chosen my wording better.

Regardless, thanks for the help.

I don't think that chart says what you think it says. The Inquisition and the High Lords for example are not departments of the Emperor, but separate entities 'answerable' directly to him.

The Imperial Guard and Imperial Fleet et al are not a part of the Administratum but separate entities who take their orders from the Administratum.

The Departmento Munitorum is mentioned in the Imperial Guard entry, but what it actually says is "The provisioning of the Imperial Guard is provided by the Departmento Munitorum, the munitions and supply wing of the Administatum", the Imperial Guard is not a part of the Departmento Munitorum, it is merely provisioned by it.

Also note the wording gives no suggestion that is tasked solely with provisioning the Guard.

As an actual part of the Administratum the Departmento Munitorum's place on the chart is the Administratum box - above both the Guard and the Imperial Fleet on the chain of command, which fits with the description of the Imperial Fleet as being responsible for shipping (to quote the same page) the "billions of soldiers, incalculable tonnes of food, wargear and munitions required to fight the Emperor's wars" - it'd be pretty impossible for the supply department to be in charge of supply and provisioning if they had no authority over the ships that deliver the supplies.

Unless I am misunderstanding the chart, it is incorrect.

The Adeptus Custodes do not answer to the Adeptus Terra, they only answer to the Emperor.

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:
Unless I am misunderstanding the chart, it is incorrect.

The Adeptus Custodes do not answer to the Adeptus Terra, they only answer to the Emperor.

That is true, but the custodes are one of the departments of the Adeptus Terra. The chart is correct.

 Iron_Captain wrote:

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:
Unless I am misunderstanding the chart, it is incorrect.

The Adeptus Custodes do not answer to the Adeptus Terra, they only answer to the Emperor.

That is true, but the custodes are one of the departments of the Adeptus Terra. The chart is correct.

It is a little inconsistant regarding what a vertical line means, in that it sometimes means "is part of" and sometimes means "answers to". But yeah, the Adeptus Terra is the collective term for the Adeptus Arbites, Administratum, Custodes, Astra Telepathica and Astronomica. There isn't any overall head of the Adeptus Terra; all 5 of the organizations that compose the Adeptus Terra have permanent seats on the High Lords of Terra.