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According to the CS fluff in the new Supplement their primogenitors are a mystery due to the Chapter being offended at receiving a Censure and locking away all knowledge of their Parents, and then it got blown up... So its a big mystery....

But we do know that it couldn't have been from the Blood Angels or Dark Angels, since they were the cause of the Censure in the beginning. We can pretty safely eliminate Space Wolves and Salamanders since they have no real Successors anyway.

Ultramarines are likely but extremely boring. The Ultramarines are mentioned as fighting alongside the Crimson Sabres during the Cleansing of Danor IV, where their Librarian was noting their "over eagerness for acceptance" but downplays it as the chapter being proud to fight alongside "Such Imperial stalwarts as the Blood Angels and Ultramarines". This doesent discount Ultramarines, but why have them mentioned at all if all records were expunged. We know they fought alongside UM, DA, BA, Black Templars, Silver Skulls, and lastly were fired upon by a Imperial Fists Strike Cruiser on entering the Cadian Gate.

We also know that after receiving Censure for insulting the honor of BA and DA, they severed all ties to all other Space Marine chapters but strictly adhered to the Codex Astartes and the teachings of Guilliman TO THE LETTER. Another hint at Ultramarines? A little too predictable.... So which other Chapters strictly adhered to the Codex after the Heresy? Raven Guard, Iron Hands and White Scars. Also the only 3 not mentioned at all in any fluff yet.

We do know they were noted for their Fire Support teams, and their use of Drop Pod Assaults. We do know their homeworld was a feudal world, warring against Orks. We know they like Sabres.

My money is on White Scars successors. There is No mention of them anywhere in the Supplement. They seems like a good source for such a 'Savage' traitor Chapter. And it hasn't really been done to death.

Thoughts? Ideas?

I don't think it would be the White Scars, they don't seem the type to reprimand a successor for something like not waiting for their unspoken turn, or at all really.
I would just go for Ultramarines, the prevalence of their gene-seed alone would suggest it, and the Crimson Sabres were not noted to have any defects or anything.

 Nightlord1987 wrote:


We do know they were noted for their Fire Support teams, and their use of Drop Pod Assaults. We do know their homeworld was a feudal world, warring against Orks. We know they like Sabres.

Sounds like a mix of IF and Black Templars to me, so IF geneseed?

Imperial Fists or Ultramarines are the most likely as there isn't anything outstanding about them regarding personality or physical features. There is a fluff bit about a Crimson Slaughter Marine spitting acid, but it's not clear if he's one of the original members, or one who joined later, was a product of Fabius Bile's contribution or the captured Geneseed.