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Been playing Blood angles for allmos 2 years by now and i was wondering what other peoples oppinion of them are?

They are actually the worst list in the game currently. So they are the exact opposite of your poll question.

They are super weak, being an assault army in the shooting edition majorly screwed them over.

Saturday I played a tournament against White Scars bikers with a mini Inquisitor Gravstar, Tau with two riptides and two full units of missile sides, Eldar with five Wave Serpents and two wraithknights and Chaos Daemons with Be'lakor, Fateweaver, two heralds khorne heralds in a unit of khorne dogs and a Heldrake. I brought a somewhat fluffy list utilizing a Dante bomb with 4 meltas and a Sang Priest, 9 assault marines and a sang priest with a Land Raider unit, a Stormraven, Sanguinary Guard unit with Librarian and a Baal Predator with optimal loadout (Flamestorm and Heavy Bolters)

I was tabled by every list except Daemons. I fought his Khorne Dogs to a stalemate, destroying my Sanguinary Guard and Land Raider Marines to man but also reducing his unit to a one wound Khorne Dog and one Herald. and although he got two Secondary objectives, I would have tied him on Primaries leading to a very close game if not tied game.

Every other game: Tau, Eldar and White Scars, was simply a slaughter. I was tabled by turn two or three in each game. I got a prize for best sportsman pretty much because I had the cahones to bring Blood Angels.

So no, they are not competitive

Well, I think a standard BA list with a core of Assault Marines or Marines in Razorbacks is not very competitive. Other armies like Daemons, Tau, Eldar, and Necrons are simply better. In this armies, you get more bang for the bucks.

I've shelfed my BA army after the 6th edition came out. Maybe it will see better days in the 7th edition.

 bocatt wrote:
Saturday I played a tournament against White Scars bikers with a mini Inquisitor Gravstar, Tau with two riptides and two full units of missile sides, Eldar with five Wave Serpents and two wraithknights and Chaos Daemons with Be'lakor, Fateweaver, two heralds khorne heralds in a unit of khorne dogs and a Heldrake. I brought a somewhat fluffy list utilizing a Dante bomb with 4 meltas and a Sang Priest, 9 assault marines and a sang priest with a Land Raider unit, a Stormraven, Sanguinary Guard unit with Librarian and a Baal Predator with optimal loadout (Flamestorm and Heavy Bolters)

I was tabled by every list except Daemons. I fought his Khorne Dogs to a stalemate, destroying my Sanguinary Guard and Land Raider Marines to man but also reducing his unit to a one wound Khorne Dog and one Herald. and although he got two Secondary objectives, I would have tied him on Primaries leading to a very close game if not tied game.

Every other game: Tau, Eldar and White Scars, was simply a slaughter. I was tabled by turn two or three in each game. I got a prize for best sportsman pretty much because I had the cahones to bring Blood Angels.

So no, they are not competitive

This didn't end how I thought it would when I first started reading. I expected you to be a BA fanatic showcasing your made up story of how you smashed all the top tier armies and are currently undefeated. Was pleasantly surprised and good to see you at least won something!

BA are at the bottom of the barrel. They're the most un-competitive army in 40k right now. Be warned that the BA fan brigade will show up soon defending them, saying that as long as your opponent doesn't bring any Riptides, Monstrous Creatures, things with the word Knight in it, psychic powers, allies, formations, flyers, things that can shoot, things that can assault, things that can move, things not from codex BA... That they are fine and will crush most opponents if you just do X with (insert over costed BA unit here).

Blood Angles hmm

They aren't all right

Oh ho ho

Short answer.....No

Long answer......Nope

As a CC oriented CSM player, I know first hand the levels of fail that you get when MEQ and assault have a baby. All I want for Christmas is for 7th edition to make assault and power armor not terrible.

I wouldn't worry about what is 'competitive', 40k is in a bit of a mess right now.

If you're going to a tournament, you'll get tabled by Tau, Eldar, Daemons, Mebbe Knights - but then so will DA, CSM, Tyranids, Sisters, GK etc

You can do fine outside of that, but you have to be ruthless with your choice of units. The mistake most people make is to build a TAC list, and these will get tabled 9 times out of 10.

I voted no even though i just lost to my own BA against my own eldar. My Mate used them and won by a point. I do believe any army can win with a competent commander. BA are just a bit harder to do it with.

hobojebus wrote:
They are super weak, being an assault army in the shooting edition majorly screwed them over.

A slow, non-definitive assault unit you mean.

Just one unit of bikes that could be effective in assault would be enough.

The issues is they drop pod in then get shot to gak for a turn, then the survivors get to take overwatch fire then if they are really lucky half the squad might get into base contact.

Same with rhinos and foot slogging is out of the question.




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The issues is they drop pod in then get shot to gak for a turn, then the survivors get to take overwatch fire then if they are really lucky half the squad might get into base contact.

Same with rhinos and foot slogging is out of the question.




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The issues is they drop pod in then get shot to gak for a turn, then the survivors get to take overwatch fire then if they are really lucky half the squad might get into base contact.

Same with rhinos and foot slogging is out of the question.




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The issues is they drop pod in then get shot to gak for a turn, then the survivors get to take overwatch fire then if they are really lucky half the squad might get into base contact.

Same with rhinos and foot slogging is out of the question.

Bartali wrote:
I wouldn't worry about what is 'competitive', 40k is in a bit of a mess right now.

If you're going to a tournament, you'll get tabled by Tau, Eldar, Daemons, Mebbe Knights - but then so will DA, CSM, Tyranids, Sisters, GK etc

You can do fine outside of that, but you have to be ruthless with your choice of units. The mistake most people make is to build a TAC list, and these will get tabled 9 times out of 10.

Even if you specialize a BA list, unless you are going triple Raven, the overcostedness of the codex makes it so you can't even focus well.

Their codex is still flexible enough to be competitive although that doesn't mean a jumper themed army is competitive. So i guess it depends on what the OP means by "BA"

 Deuce11 wrote:
Their codex is still flexible enough to be competitive although that doesn't mean a jumper themed army is competitive. So i guess it depends on what the OP means by "BA"

No, it's not. It's overcosted, not inflexbile.

Martel732 wrote:

 Deuce11 wrote:
Their codex is still flexible enough to be competitive although that doesn't mean a jumper themed army is competitive. So i guess it depends on what the OP means by "BA"

No, it's not. It's overcosted, not inflexbile.

This x1000 as a SW player I can outshoot and out fight a BA army every damn time and my codex is older than theirs, ba had one place they shined assault and in 6th that's denied to them.

At least I can focus on shooting but ba don't even have that option.

hobojebus wrote:

Martel732 wrote:

 Deuce11 wrote:
Their codex is still flexible enough to be competitive although that doesn't mean a jumper themed army is competitive. So i guess it depends on what the OP means by "BA"

No, it's not. It's overcosted, not inflexbile.

This x1000 as a SW player I can outshoot and out fight a BA army every damn time and my codex is older than theirs, ba had one place they shined assault and in 6th that's denied to them.

At least I can focus on shooting but ba don't even have that option.

Not, they weren't even good at that. They were good at fielding fast razor backs and fast predators back when the vehicle damage table was very forgiving. That's about it. If you tried assault BA, the IG would just leaf blower you off the table. This assault nerfing started with SW and IG and hasn't let up.

Can they do well? Yes

Can they win tournaments? Yes

By my definition of competitive, are they competitive(do they have the tools to thrive in a high skill environment)? Yes

Do they have a game-breaking list like the Screamer Star? No

 changerofways wrote:
Can they do well? Yes

Can they win tournaments? Yes

By my definition of competitive, are they competitive(do they have the tools to thrive in a high skill environment)? Yes

Do they have a game-breaking list like the Screamer Star? No

We'll have to agree to disagree. I play against many tournament-style lists and it's a struggle to not be tabled.

Not competative at all. However as a 500pt allies bringing Mephiston, a drop podding furioso with frag, melta and magna grapple with a 5 man sniper scout unit for backfield scoring, will not always dilute an already competative list depending on what is already in the list...

 changerofways wrote:
Can they do well? Yes

Can they win tournaments? Yes

By my definition of competitive, are they competitive(do they have the tools to thrive in a high skill environment)? Yes

Do they have a game-breaking list like the Screamer Star? No

Do they have a TAC list that can compete with any other codices TAC list? No

I think BA are better than all the builds in the 6th Ed DA book aside from RW.

 Deuce11 wrote:
I think BA are better than all the builds in the 6th Ed DA book aside from RW.

That's stretching. A lot.

Martel732 wrote:

 Deuce11 wrote:
I think BA are better than all the builds in the 6th Ed DA book aside from RW.

That's stretching. A lot.

Seriously, aside from a biker build, what can DA do that BA cannot? DW is too overcosted and Green Wing pales in comparison to anything BA can bring.

So you get a super efficient librarian - big deal.

 Deuce11 wrote:

Martel732 wrote:

 Deuce11 wrote:
I think BA are better than all the builds in the 6th Ed DA book aside from RW.

That's stretching. A lot.

Seriously, aside from a biker build, what can DA do that BA cannot? DW is too overcosted and Green Wing pales in comparison to anything BA can bring.

So you get a super efficient librarian - big deal.

That is a big deal, and all your men are 2 pts cheaper. There's rad grandes, power field shenanigans, etc. The BA codex has very, very few good units.

Using DA to say BA are competitive is really clutching at straws.
They are the bottom two dexes.
We could have a thourough debate as to which is 'better' than the other, but that still doesn't change the fact that BA are definitely not competative.

The fact that this thread has a 23% "yes" response shows how GW gets away with its stuff.

Martel732 wrote:
The fact that this thread has a 23% "yes" response shows how GW gets away with its stuff.

I reckon half of that is people either having a laugh or being Ironic... or people who rarely play.