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2014/04/08 15:37:19
Subject: Rules that people get wrong in Warhammer 40,000.
BoomWolf wrote: Good thing wings are not considered part of the hull then.
You should re-read the vehicle rules.
When a unit fires at a vehicle, it must be able to see its hull or turret (ignoring the vehicle's gun barrels, antennas, decorative banner poles, etc.) Note that, unlike for other
models,a vehicle's wings are not ornamental and are a part of its hull.
You cant score from them, nor can you fire your baleflamer from them, or aim AT them if thats all the LoS you have (if the wing itself hides the hull though, you can shoot.)
Its considered "bling" just like a needlessly large sword held high, or some high base.
Wrong.
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2014/04/09 09:46:55
Subject: Rules that people get wrong in Warhammer 40,000.
BoomWolf wrote: Good thing wings are not considered part of the hull then.
You should re-read the vehicle rules.
When a unit fires at a vehicle, it must be able to see its hull or turret (ignoring the vehicle's gun barrels, antennas, decorative banner poles, etc.) Note that, unlike for other
models,a vehicle's wings are not ornamental and are a part of its hull.
You cant score from them, nor can you fire your baleflamer from them, or aim AT them if thats all the LoS you have (if the wing itself hides the hull though, you can shoot.)
Its considered "bling" just like a needlessly large sword held high, or some high base.
Wrong.
BRB page 71, Vehicles & Measuring Distances wrote:ignore gun barrels, dozer blades, antennas, banners and other decorative elements.
Or is there another part I've missed?
Edit:
BRB page 73, Shooting At Vehicles wrote:When a unit fires at a vehicle... (ignoring the Vehicles gun barrels, antennas, decorative banner poles, etc)
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If I sound like I'm being a condescending butthole, I'm not. Read my reply as neutrally as possible, please and thank you.
2014/04/09 09:56:58
Subject: Rules that people get wrong in Warhammer 40,000.
BoomWolf wrote: Good thing wings are not considered part of the hull then.
You should re-read the vehicle rules.
When a unit fires at a vehicle, it must be able to see its hull or turret (ignoring the vehicle's gun barrels, antennas, decorative banner poles, etc.) Note that, unlike for other models,a vehicle's wings are not ornamental and are a part of its hull.
You cant score from them, nor can you fire your baleflamer from them, or aim AT them if thats all the LoS you have (if the wing itself hides the hull though, you can shoot.) Its considered "bling" just like a needlessly large sword held high, or some high base.
Wrong.
BRB page 71, Vehicles & Measuring Distances wrote:ignore gun barrels, dozer blades, antennas, banners and other decorative elements.
Or is there another part I've missed?
Edit:
BRB page 73, Shooting At Vehicles wrote:When a unit fires at a vehicle... (ignoring the Vehicles gun barrels, antennas, decorative banner poles, etc)
Yes.
Note that, unlike for other models, a vehicle's wings are not ornamental and are a part of its hull.
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2014/04/09 10:53:27
Subject: Rules that people get wrong in Warhammer 40,000.
BoomWolf wrote: Good thing wings are not considered part of the hull then.
You should re-read the vehicle rules.
When a unit fires at a vehicle, it must be able to see its hull or turret (ignoring the vehicle's gun barrels, antennas, decorative banner poles, etc.) Note that, unlike for other
models,a vehicle's wings are not ornamental and are a part of its hull.
You cant score from them, nor can you fire your baleflamer from them, or aim AT them if thats all the LoS you have (if the wing itself hides the hull though, you can shoot.)
Its considered "bling" just like a needlessly large sword held high, or some high base.
Wrong.
BRB page 71, Vehicles & Measuring Distances wrote:ignore gun barrels, dozer blades, antennas, banners and other decorative elements.
Or is there another part I've missed?
Edit:
BRB page 73, Shooting At Vehicles wrote:When a unit fires at a vehicle... (ignoring the Vehicles gun barrels, antennas, decorative banner poles, etc)
Yes.
Note that, unlike for other models, a vehicle's wings are not ornamental and are a part of its hull.
Ah, I see.
Thanks.
Edit: I guess that's what I get for not reading onwards.
That's good to know, though.
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If I sound like I'm being a condescending butthole, I'm not. Read my reply as neutrally as possible, please and thank you.
2014/04/09 11:43:05
Subject: Rules that people get wrong in Warhammer 40,000.
BoomWolf wrote: Good thing wings are not considered part of the hull then.
You should re-read the vehicle rules.
When a unit fires at a vehicle, it must be able to see its hull or turret (ignoring the vehicle's gun barrels, antennas, decorative banner poles, etc.) Note that, unlike for other
models,a vehicle's wings are not ornamental and are a part of its hull.
You cant score from them, nor can you fire your baleflamer from them, or aim AT them if thats all the LoS you have (if the wing itself hides the hull though, you can shoot.)
Its considered "bling" just like a needlessly large sword held high, or some high base.
Wrong.
BRB page 71, Vehicles & Measuring Distances wrote:ignore gun barrels, dozer blades, antennas, banners and other decorative elements.
Or is there another part I've missed?
Edit:
BRB page 73, Shooting At Vehicles wrote:When a unit fires at a vehicle... (ignoring the Vehicles gun barrels, antennas, decorative banner poles, etc)
Yes.
Note that, unlike for other models, a vehicle's wings are not ornamental and are a part of its hull.
Ah, I see.
Thanks.
Edit: I guess that's what I get for not reading onwards.
That's good to know, though.
yeah it also make shooting at drakes easier, they tend to stick out a bit so its almost a wash and the times you will use one to score is minimal... and the mesuring for the flamer as well was FAQ to mesure range from the base of the model and not the model itself.
PrinceRaven wrote: I'd rather just use narrative terrain setup than having to deliberately handicap myself and rely on my opponent to do the same just to make a system work.
But you are 100% onboard with not putting superheavies in your list and not only hoping your opponent doesn't...but insisting so? Interesting...
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2014/04/09 13:59:50
Subject: Rules that people get wrong in Warhammer 40,000.
Well I could put my models down on the field, spend a couple of turns removing them, then pack up, but I don't really see the point.
My stance on Escalation conforms entirely with my stance on alternating terrain set-up, they are broken systems that I would rather simply not play with than try and make work through relying on both players to follow an elaborate code of conduct.
Also, didn't anyone tell you not to cross the streams threads?
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I have a peanut allergy. It's really inconsiderate.
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