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HI all.

Here is the situation that came up at our Local GW store. A unit was locked in CC and a challenge had been issued and excepted which was on going. A Imperial Knight charged into the fray dispatched all but one of the hostile models that was not in the challenge with its chain sword, and then got 3 stomps. The Imp knights player placed all three stomps so that they would touch both the model not in the challenge and the one that was, then rolled a 1/4/6 for the stomp results.

This brought up a question of could a knight stomp models in a challenge, and even if it could would the effects of the stomps be applied?

At that time we played it as it did not effect the challenge, but after reviewing the stomp rules it states that any model even partially under the template gets hit and is affected by the stomp.

So what to do...

page 64 - Outside Forces

A challengee can't have wounds allocated to him from outside the challenge. So the stomps would do nothing to him. Same thing with Death Ray, really. Some people believe you can fire into combat with a death ray, but not a challenge. Instead the wound would be allocated to another member in his unit outside of the challenge.

Since stomp attacks use the word 'Model" instead of saying you get hits for everything under the template it makes this tricky.

You cannot allocate wounds to models in a challenge by anything not in the challenge, but since the result of 6 on stomp is not wounds and specifically calls out the models under the template, it should technically just remove both models as per the smash rules.

Eihnlazer wrote:
Since stomp attacks use the word 'Model" instead of saying you get hits for everything under the template it makes this tricky.

You cannot allocate wounds to models in a challenge by anything not in the challenge, but since the result of 6 on stomp is not wounds and specifically calls out the models under the template, it should technically just remove both models as per the smash rules.

Minor quibble, but you can't place a blast marker over a friendly model so he'd have to place the first in base contact with the knight, then within 3" of that blast marker over only enemy models.

While the stomp rule on a 6 doesn't use wound allocation; I believe, for the purposes of challenges and the intention behind the rules, you shouldn't be able to interfere with it without glorious intervention.

RAW: yes
HIWPI: no

For clarification both the model not in the challenge and the one in the challenge were standing next to each other and the friendly model was not in the way of the stomp.

For the wounding stomp I think we played it right, not sure about the remove model from play stomp.

Remove from play stomp is not a wound, so ignores the challenge rules entirely.

Remove the model, the knight just didn't notice it...