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@ Belly, Ironically, I've only lost one Fire Prism to the Tau thus far despite the fact that we play a lot (statistical anomaly, I know) And the knight certainly is dead hard, but I find that 240 points is quite limiting to my force. I can almost 2-1 with Fire Prisms, which now allows me to maneuver my enemy how I want them a bit more easily. And double Fire Prisms will be much more effective vs Imperial Knights.

@ Kain, we know. That's not really the point of this thread though. With so much AT, which one works best for you?

Brightlances on Wraitlords have always given me a terrible time. Pops dreadnoughts rather frequently. and its a strong firebase that will go down swinging. Starcannons however punch SUV sized holes in anything they want.

Brightlance and Starcannons get my vote

My 1750/1850 ranged anti-AV13+ consists of a:

BS6 Fusion Gun
BS5 Singing Spear

BS5 Haywire grenade
2 BS5 Brightlances and a Pulse Laser
BS5 Star Lance
8 BS4 Laser Lances

2 Heavy Wraithcannons
3 Dark Lances

As you can see, there's a bit of ranged AT in my list, but CC is where it shines against vehicles.

Out of all the above, I rate Crimson Hunter the best ranged AT, followed by the Wraithknight, then Ravager. The rest are just there for emergency cases. I'm not a big fan of Fire Prisms, I rate them the 3rd worst HS choice of C:Eldar, behind Wraithlords and Falcons(although that doesn't mean any of them are bad, but I think that in our codex, there's better out there).

 Araenion wrote:

Out of all the above, I rate Crimson Hunter the best ranged AT, followed by the Wraithknight, then Ravager. The rest are just there for emergency cases. I'm not a big fan of Fire Prisms, I rate them the 3rd worst HS choice of C:Eldar, behind Wraithlords and Falcons(although that doesn't mean any of them are bad, but I think that in our codex, there's better out there).

Falcons? Those still exist?

Haha, well Falcons aren't bad by any means, there's usually no point taking one when you can have a Serpent. I do sometimes play with them, because they're great for when you can't afford a Serpent + squad and you need some ranged S8 goodness. In an AT role, they're actually better, except vs AV14, than Prisms, but less versatile. Then again, a Prism suffers from too much versatility and confused roles. Their small blast rarely gets used in my experience, due to being S7, not 8 like it used to and catering to very specific circumstances, their Lance shot is a single shot and as such very unreliable and their large blast is great, I admit, but with cover, that's 1-2 dead marines with a weapon specifically designed to kill them. And before you think I'm dissing the Prism because I don't like them, that's not true, I had used 2 for most of the 5th and continued using them with the new dex. I got so disappointed with their performance, that I sold both and got a Wraithknight instead.

 Will1541 wrote:

 Araenion wrote:

Out of all the above, I rate Crimson Hunter the best ranged AT, followed by the Wraithknight, then Ravager. The rest are just there for emergency cases. I'm not a big fan of Fire Prisms, I rate them the 3rd worst HS choice of C:Eldar, behind Wraithlords and Falcons(although that doesn't mean any of them are bad, but I think that in our codex, there's better out there).

Falcons? Those still exist?

There are some that actually use them still here, and not just newbs ( )
Ductvader i believe....

 ninjafiredragon wrote:

 Will1541 wrote:

 Araenion wrote:

Out of all the above, I rate Crimson Hunter the best ranged AT, followed by the Wraithknight, then Ravager. The rest are just there for emergency cases. I'm not a big fan of Fire Prisms, I rate them the 3rd worst HS choice of C:Eldar, behind Wraithlords and Falcons(although that doesn't mean any of them are bad, but I think that in our codex, there's better out there).

Falcons? Those still exist?

There are some that actually use them still here, and not just newbs ( )
Ductvader i believe....

^This guy....ahhhhhh...I do love how us Eldar vets know each other...

Like Westen and the Fire Dragons rant anytime Wraithguard come up.



I love my Falcon...I really love him because he and my Crimson Hunter like to play with Heavy armor and multiwound T4 infantry...my local Tau players have started gunning for my Falcon at the beginning of every game. I also love it because it gives me a place to hide my Rangers when my opponent has an easy way to kill them.

 ductvader wrote:

 ninjafiredragon wrote:

 Will1541 wrote:

 Araenion wrote:

Out of all the above, I rate Crimson Hunter the best ranged AT, followed by the Wraithknight, then Ravager. The rest are just there for emergency cases. I'm not a big fan of Fire Prisms, I rate them the 3rd worst HS choice of C:Eldar, behind Wraithlords and Falcons(although that doesn't mean any of them are bad, but I think that in our codex, there's better out there).

Falcons? Those still exist?

There are some that actually use them still here, and not just newbs ( )
Ductvader i believe....

^This guy....ahhhhhh...I do love how us Eldar vets know each other...

Like Westen and the Fire Dragons rant anytime Wraithguard come up.



I love my Falcon...I really love him because he and my Crimson Hunter like to play with Heavy armor and multiwound T4 infantry...my local Tau players have started gunning for my Falcon at the beginning of every game. I also love it because it gives me a place to hide my Rangers when my opponent has an easy way to kill them.

Lol so true.... Westen's age old fire dragon argument
Not gonna argue the falcon argument again.

You're all wrong. Howling Banshees are the best unit in the game for cracking tanks and in general. :straightface:

 Araenion wrote:
You're all wrong. Howling Banshees are the best unit in the game for cracking tanks and in general. :straightface:

Aerenion...how were we not friends until just now?

Yes, we were, it just wasn't official.

I feel the need to point out that the fire prism might not be the absolute best anti-tank, but it seems to be the best choice due to its ability to kill anything you point it at. Solid shot for tanks, small blast for terminators and large blast for large groups of infantry. As a Tau player I tend to make it a note to try to kill the fire prisms rather quickly due to the fact that they are effective against anything I put on the table.

 leotau1991 wrote:
I feel the need to point out that the fire prism might not be the absolute best anti-tank, but it seems to be the best choice due to its ability to kill anything you point it at. Solid shot for tanks, small blast for terminators and large blast for large groups of infantry. As a Tau player I tend to make it a note to try to kill the fire prisms rather quickly due to the fact that they are effective against anything I put on the table.

I'm going to stop you right there before this turns into a Prism hate thread.

Fire Prisms are excellent at killing MEQ...large blast S5 AP3...Awesome.

S7 Small blast?...almost worthless...especially with the amount of cover in this game now.

S9...one shot?...ugh



Prisms are decent...there is only one unit in the whole book that is straight up bad. But most competitive players will choose to go for more efficient heavy platforms.

S: 7 Small blast Useless? How do you wipe Terminators out? Because that's been my (rather effective) answer. Granted, I'd love 8 for ID, but oh well.

Bladestorm does the job when it happens that my Hunter and Wraithknight don't.

I don't believe Eldar have ever truly feared termies. AP2 is more needed to kill Riptides and Broadsides.

I think the main problem with the Small blast is that you will only ever hit one model with propper spread. 2 if you get a good scatter.

 Will1541 wrote:
S: 7 Small blast Useless? How do you wipe Terminators out? Because that's been my (rather effective) answer. Granted, I'd love 8 for ID, but oh well.

Typically, in my experience, when an Eldar user wants to kill a TEQwing list, they bring out Suncannon Wraithknights, Star cannons, Distortion weapons, and/or lots of bladestorm/monowire. Lances, Axe and Board Wraithsblades, and Prisms also work in a pinch.

But then that would be list basing. And really you dont even need to do that.
In my list to deal the teqs i have....
3+ wave serpents
wraithknight(s)
war walkers
fire dragons
Among all my troop which can hurt termies actually quite well.